What kind of oil for 15K Mile Vibe?

gr8vibe · Post by **gr8vibe** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:34 am

Hey all, This is my vibes first oil change since i got her. I went to a diff place besides the one i usually go to because they were booked. Ok so, the guys there seemed knowledgable until they asked me what kind of oil to put in the car and I said I dont know since I didnt. On the window sticker, they put 10W30. Now, I know that that is thicker and its what I used on my V8 Cougar with 150K+ miles. Did they put in the wrong oil? Should I be concerned? What should I do? Help!! Send me an IM - OMEGAROYALE if you got AIM cuz I really need to know.

WaveAction · Post by **WaveAction** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:48 am

u havent changed ur oil in 15,000 miles? wow...up here most people change their oil every 5000km(3000 miles)..i've changed my oil already once before i went to ohio and i had about 2500 km on the car..but as for the oil..it should be 10W30..i think..maybe 5W30..i just take it to my dealer and they do it..but pretty sure it's 10W30...either synthetic or regular

gr8vibe · Post by **gr8vibe** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:51 am

No, the guy who traded it in had it changed every 3K miles so its my turn now. Still havent anwered my question though with a straight answer. knowing me, I get paranoid easily. anyone else? 10W30? 5W30?

WaveAction · Post by **WaveAction** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:53 am

gotcha..and as i mentioned..im sure it's 10W30

gr8vibe · Post by **gr8vibe** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 9:56 am

any set in stone proof anywhere? In my manual says like S 5w30 or something like that.

WaveAction · Post by **WaveAction** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:03 am

should just take it to a dealership since these guys that are "knowledgable" dont know what type of oil to use..most cars up here are 10W30..so im sticking with it lol

prathman · Post by **prathman** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:33 am

On the oil filler cap and in the manual it recommends 5W30 and Toyota more recently put out a recommendation of 5W20. So either of those are what I'd use (our Vibes currently have 5W30 in them).But I sure wouldn't bother to change the oil out early if someone used 10W30. The difference is slight and you're not living in an area with a cold climate anyway. (The slightly thicker 10W30 oil at startup could be of more concern to someone where the temperatures get down to -40.)

gr8vibe · Post by **gr8vibe** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:15 am

I think ill swing by the dealership anyways tomorrow just to be sure.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:01 pm

Take it back to the place that changed the oil, show them the sticker, then show them the oil fill cap which clearly states to use 5W-30, and demand they change the oil and filter again, this time with the correct oil. It is worth getting all up in their face. Using the wrong oil gives the dealer a great reason not to honor your warranty if something goes wrong in the engine. It may be that they used the right oil and wrote the wrong thing on the sticker, but the only way to be sure is if they drain it and put new oil of the correct weight back in. Probably don't need to change the filter (if they drain it too) , but make them do it anyway, they screwed up, they screwed you, they must make it right. Cause a scene, be loud.

gr8vibe · Post by **gr8vibe** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 12:59 pm

Uh Oh, now Im worried something may go wrong..

gr8vibe · Post by **gr8vibe** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 2:58 pm

anyone else wanna ring in with what they know?

tribalman · Post by **tribalman** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:27 pm

ok, according to the manual the vibe can take both 5w30 and 10w30. the difference? the 5w30 can work in colder temps. i see you are in near Oakland and i know that area is warmer, don't worry about it. as long as you have either listed it'll be fine. the 10w30 will work. don't worry about it messing the engine. as long as you change it again at any reccomended time(3 months, 3-5k mi) the oil won't destroy the car. i would use 10w30 but i'm lazy and don't want to deal with 2 different oils so i just use the 5w30 because of winter by me. sometimes it's a nice 40 all winter, other times we are lucky to hit 25.

prathman · Post by **prathman** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 3:34 pm

I don't have the exact figures handy, but AIRC, changing the SAE viscosity rating from 5W to 10W results in the oil having a given thickness at about a 5 deg. F higher temperature. So on a really cold morning in Antioch where the temperature might be 25 F, your 10W30 oil will initially be about as thick as a 5W30 oil would be at 20F. If a 5W30 oil provides enough lubrication at 20 F then the 10W30 should be ok at 25 F. Of course Vibe owners in the midwest are starting their cars at much lower temperatures and the engines are managing fine with much thicker oil at startup than you'll ever get in Antioch with 10W30.Note that once the engine gets up to normal operating temperature then it's the second viscosity number that counts and both 5W30 and 10W30 will behave similarly since they're both 30 weight at the higher temperature.

gr8vibe · Post by **gr8vibe** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 5:23 pm

Thanks! Its great that theres knowledgable people on here rather than here in Antioch. I forgot that it says my location under my name, i was like how do you know where i live lol!! but san ramon? hey, your not to far from me. i smell a meet maybe???And the coldest it ever gets here is like 50...if even that.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:08 pm

well, I like to get loud and cause a scene

tnpartsguy · Post by **tnpartsguy** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 10:25 pm

All GM cars since 1985 require 5w30, with the exception of the Corvettes, and a few others the require Mobile 1 (5w30). I personally use 0w20 Mobil 1 in my car now, since it's all very short trips (under 5 miles), and I still change it at least every 4k miles.15,000 miles is WAYyyyyyyyy too many miles on break-in oil. The owner's manual should state 5k/7,500k, or twice a year as minimums.

coldmm803 · Post by **coldmm803** » Sat Sep 29, 2007 11:40 pm

Quote, originally posted by tnpartsguy Â»15,000 miles is WAYyyyyyyyy too many miles on break-in oil. The owner's manual should state 5k/7,500k, or twice a year as minimums.i think he got the vibe used with around 12k miles and it now has 15k cause he has driven 3k. check out his 2nd post

djb383 · Post by **djb383** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 12:09 am

The lowest 1st number (0WXX, 5WXX) will always provide the best protection/lubrication at engine start-up when engine temp is at less than normal operating temp. At present, 0WXX is only available in synthetic but the refiners/chemical engineers are working on a 0WXX conventional oil and you can bet as soon as it is avaiable, engine manufacturers will be recommending it.Here's some really good reading.http://63.240.161.99/motoroil/

WaveAction · Post by **WaveAction** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 1:19 am

we use 10w30 cause of our weather climate up here

gr8vibe · Post by **gr8vibe** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:18 am

Quote, originally posted by coldmm803 Â»i think he got the vibe used with around 12k miles and it now has 15k cause he has driven 3k. check out his 2nd postyeah you eager beaver!

djb383 · Post by **djb383** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:49 am

Quote, originally posted by WaveAction Â»we use 10w30 cause of our weather climate up hereWhy, when GM recommends 5W, especially in your weather/climate?

djb383 · Post by **djb383** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 2:53 am

goodvibe · Post by **goodvibe** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 10:44 pm

10w30 is fine where you're at.

djb383 · Post by **djb383** » Sun Sep 30, 2007 11:05 pm

...............but it's an old oil viscosity recommended by mfg's 10-15 years ago 'cause at that time 10W30 was the best conventional oil viscosity readily available. 0WXX and 5WXX provide far better lubrication/protection at less than normal operating temps, where most engine wear occurs.Read Motor Oil 101 & 102, it can't be explained any better.http://63.240.161.99/motoroil/

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