Wow! Is this is a good deal or what???

danielal · Post by **danielal** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:11 pm

Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWI'm going to bid on it! Im dying to have a set asap!!! I'm getting this one for sure!!!

GrayFox · Post by **GrayFox** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:21 pm

make sure they aren't the fake ones.... Those were going around a while back but I'm not sure if that's still going on.

joholste · Post by **joholste** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:22 pm

be warned there was some people who were selling fake tein s techs but looking at the sellers rep i don't think these are fake

danielal · Post by **danielal** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:28 pm

I dont think its a fake one. Genuine S.Tech has both part number and lot number printed parallel to the coil itself.what do you think?Link: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVW

GrayFox · Post by **GrayFox** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:30 pm

cool! well in that case, I hope you get them & be sure to post some pics

danielal · Post by **danielal** » Tue Jul 17, 2007 10:32 pm

Thanks man. Im excited!!! I'll bid on it few mins before it ends

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:15 am

Would you be upset if another GenVibe member won the springs? Not saying that i did, but would you be mad?

ajflan · Post by **ajflan** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:18 am

The bidding has ended, did anyone here get them?

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 2:38 am

If it was somebody here, at least it's all in the family

danielal · Post by **danielal** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:35 am

Grrrrrr! I did not win! Some guy named Aaron outbid. I was going to put a $60 but it was too late! Well I'm just gonna keep searching til I frind a great deal.

danielal · Post by **danielal** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 4:37 am

What do you guys think of these? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...&rd=1

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 5:56 am

Quote, originally posted by danielal Â»Grrrrrr! I did not win! Some guy named Aaron outbid. I was going to put a $60 but it was too late! Well I'm just gonna keep searching til I frind a great deal.**cough** Hi, my name is Aaron **cough**Sorry bro, i couldn't help it... Please don't come and kill me in the night... Just a word of advise for next time. When bidding on Ebay, your bid is a "proxy" bid, which means you enter the MAX amount you care to spend and the proxy will bit incrimentaly until your max bid is reached... I entered 60$ and 2 bids were made on my behalf... i never reached 60$ though... That can make for one heck of a bid war if there are a few people bidding, but 1.00 at a time...This is also the FIRST time i've ever BID on anything on Ebay, i usually just BIN and am done with it... I hope it is ok that they will be kept in the GenVibe family. I was not in any way trying to create any "bad blood"reguards,Aaron

WaveAction · Post by **WaveAction** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:13 am

**whispers* pssst..i think he's creating bad blood lol..i kid

danielal · Post by **danielal** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:20 am

Aaron youre a bustard!!! Just kidding bro acutally I'm not. lol! I'll take that advice next time about bidding and stuff. Man... I don't know what else to say.. Goodluck with MY SPRINGS Aaron!Ima keep searchin...

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 6:50 am

I'm sorry man, i truely am... i just couldn't help myself.... the funny thing is, i don't even OWN my Vibe yet... I'm collecting parts... i have the system set and ready to go in when it's time, as well.I mean i just have to travel the 7hrs to get it, but i still don't have it... maybe next week...

ajflan · Post by **ajflan** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 7:15 am

Theres no reason to get mad at anybody. It's Ebay. Thats what happens. If you get out bid then oh well, try again next time.

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:32 am

I don't think he's mad, just a little sore, i mean i did snipe them out from under him.... Like you say though, that's Ebay...

JesseWHHS · Post by **JesseWHHS** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 12:45 pm

funny story here. its life though. I found a site that has the springs for $156 shipped. I called and discussed quicker shipping methods and they are very nice people. http://neverenoughauto.com/ind...=1813I was thinking of getting the springs this week, But I decided I will save up for rims and the drop. That way I can get it all out of the way in one weekend hopefully. Also only 1 alignment needed this route. I don't think I would need one after changing wheels, but im weird and just like to play it safe. haha.

ajflan · Post by **ajflan** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:22 pm

A lot of us here have delt with neverenough. Thats where I got my springs. You really can't beat the price.

joholste · Post by **joholste** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 1:42 pm

neverenough is owned or run by Petertracks on MO.com he's good people

danielal · Post by **danielal** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 8:52 pm

Nah.. I'm not mad just jealous. I've been itching to drop my car!Looks like its a good deal for brand new springs. Hmmmmmm.... I'll give them a call and ask for shipment. God, if I can get one here in OR for that price I'd buy it in a heart beat but alot of import stores here has to order them as well and it takes 5 to 7 business days to ship. I want it now!

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:07 pm

I have bought and sold hundreds of items on Ebay over the last 5 years. I always bid with a few seconds left. Just be sure and bid the maximum you want to pay not the price you wish you could get them for. This way you either get them for your price or you don't and there is no time left for anyone else to outbid you. It's called bid sniping.

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:28 pm

Quote, originally posted by Sunny Â»I have bought and sold hundreds of items on Ebay over the last 5 years. I always bid with a few seconds left. Just be sure and bid the maximum you want to pay not the price you wish you could get them for. This way you either get them for your price or you don't and there is no time left for anyone else to outbid you. It's called bid sniping.Or proxy bidding.... You enter the max you want to pay and the site automaticly bids incrimentaly untill it either reaches the max you want to pay or you win... Sniping is just what you said though, bid in the last few seconds (minute) and hope when it ends it ends with your bid...

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:29 pm

Quote, originally posted by JesseWHHS Â»funny story here. its life though. I found a site that has the springs for $156 shipped. I called and discussed quicker shipping methods and they are very nice people. http://neverenoughauto.com/ind...=1813I was thinking of getting the springs this week, But I decided I will save up for rims and the drop. That way I can get it all out of the way in one weekend hopefully. Also only 1 alignment needed this route. I don't think I would need one after changing wheels, but im weird and just like to play it safe. haha.Nope, you do NOT need an alignment after changing wheels.... you DO however need to check your lugs after a few hundred miles...

Burn · Post by **Burn** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 9:30 pm

And its always a good thing to not tell everyone that you found a good deal on ebay before you won the item...Even more if its a vibe piece and you tell it on a vibe forum...

danielal · Post by **danielal** » Wed Jul 18, 2007 10:59 pm

Well thanks for all your inputs about bidding stuff on ebay but I finally bought my springs from http://www.neverenoughauto.com just like what jesse had pointed out. I went online and got it.Just waiting for it to come to me and have it installed. Can't wait!!!

JesseWHHS · Post by **JesseWHHS** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 1:28 am

yeah, its the best deal I have found so far. Happy I could be of help to you. I will have my Vibe dropped by the middle of August for sure, I can wait on teh rims I guess.....Are there any springs that drop our vibes even lower than these tein s techs do? If imma drop it, I figure I should drop it as much as possible. lol. and stay cheap anyways. haha. I figure this route is about $225 plus labor. So $500 - $600 should have it all done very nicely. Springs, shipping, alignment, and labor. ALSO, would 19" wheels fit on the vibe after putting these springs on it? 18" is too small for me. haha. I wanna CRAM 19s in there if possible.

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 3:58 am

Quote, originally posted by JesseWHHS Â»yeah, its the best deal I have found so far. Happy I could be of help to you. I will have my Vibe dropped by the middle of August for sure, I can wait on teh rims I guess.....Are there any springs that drop our vibes even lower than these tein s techs do? If imma drop it, I figure I should drop it as much as possible. lol. and stay cheap anyways. haha. I figure this route is about $225 plus labor. So $500 - $600 should have it all done very nicely. Springs, shipping, alignment, and labor. ALSO, would 19" wheels fit on the vibe after putting these springs on it? 18" is too small for me. haha. I wanna CRAM 19s in there if possible. with what you want to do, you ARE NOT going to get away cheap. A simple set of lowering springs on stock struts is not going to net you what you want. If it does, the struts will not last very long, as they are valved to work at a determined hight (stock) even the slight lowering that the SS springs will produce will likely kill the struts faster than at stock ride hight. What you are going to want to get is coilovers.... they have a much better valving system that is designed to handle the different ride hights you can get with the adjustment rings on the strut body... they will react quicker to the changing road, give you a much better ride than "really low" stock struts and when it come to tucking a set of 19" wheels, your gonna want to protect them any way possible. If you REALLY want to cram 19'z in, go with a air ride system, but you are talking thousands comapired to hundreds..

JesseWHHS · Post by **JesseWHHS** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:07 pm

an air ride system would be NASTY!!!! haha. I may look into that though, its a possibility.So I found these pretty quick...http://www.istoreparts.com/sku....htmlWould those be a step in the right direction? I don't have a problem spending more money to do this project the CORRECT way. Id rather pay more up front and more later to fix or correct sumthin later on.So more advice for me please. haha. I need to plan to buy coilovers, new struts, and im sure some other stuff. So if you don't mind, finish this puzzle for me. haha.

Herb · Post by **Herb** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 2:48 pm

I'd rather use a sniper-bot. That's how I win items I'm seriously interested in without having to be online at the time of auction end.This way I don't contribute to pushing the price up by tipping my hand that I'm interested in an item.I've used vrane for years without a problem. They allow for 1 free active snipe at a time if you don't pay.Quote, originally posted by Sublimewind Â»Sniping is just what you said though, bid in the last few seconds (minute) and hope when it ends it ends with your bid...

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:35 pm

Quote, originally posted by JesseWHHS Â»an air ride system would be NASTY!!!! haha. I may look into that though, its a possibility.So I found these pretty quick...http://www.istoreparts.com/sku....htmlWould those be a step in the right direction? I don't have a problem spending more money to do this project the CORRECT way. Id rather pay more up front and more later to fix or correct sumthin later on.So more advice for me please. haha. I need to plan to buy coilovers, new struts, and im sure some other stuff. So if you don't mind, finish this puzzle for me. haha.Those springs ARE NOT what you want, they are designed to be put on ANY strut, but NOT taking into account the strut valving and you would end up with a horrible ride... What you really want is outlined here (minus the Skunk 2 crap)http://neverenoughauto.com/cat....htmlHere you have struts and springs that are designed to WORK TOGETHER as a system rather than a mish mash of parts thrown together... The "true" coilover is designed to allow you to adjust the ride hight, a side benifit of that is allowing you to "corner weigh" the car, meaning that it gets put on 4 scales and then adjusted so that each corner of the car is applying the same (or close) ammount of pressure to the contact patch of the tires. While not nessasary it can REALLY change the handling for the better on a car... They tipicly also allow you to adjust the valving of the strut through a little turn valve at the top or bottoom of the strut, letting you increase or decrease the stiffness of the strut.... so in a few minutes you can go from mild mannered street car to wikkid Autocross racer, with a few turns of the screws... If you want to go low, and do it right, without using air, true coilovers are the only way to fly.... costly up front, but as you said, doing it right the first time and not having to change things 2-3 times is worth the money... Cheers..Aaron

JesseWHHS · Post by **JesseWHHS** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 3:09 am

so, which of those 3 are best? and on the Tein coilovers, what is the $300 difference for? Do I need or want the better version?Along with those coilovers, what else will I need to buy for this setup to work properly?

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 5:37 am

Quote, originally posted by JesseWHHS Â»so, which of those 3 are best? and on the Tein coilovers, what is the $300 difference for? Do I need or want the better version?Along with those coilovers, what else will I need to buy for this setup to work properly?The difference for 300$ isQuote Â»16-Levels of Damping Force Adjustment (Compression & Rebound Together) The basics aren't adjustable, the SS's are... What else would you need, not much, maybe some http://neverenoughauto.com/cat....html and maybe some camber plates, which the Ksports come with it seems... Swaybars wouldn't be a bad idea either.... Boy, oh boy, would that sucker handle with all that on there.... it's got me hot thinking about it...

JesseWHHS · Post by **JesseWHHS** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:38 am

haha. what have you got me into!!! I was thinking $500 out the door for this crap. Now you got me thinking over a grand for JUST the coilovers. hahaSo do you think I should get the adjustable, and yes your answer will make me spend $300 more or less on this crap. haha.So I want to have EVERYTHING purchased and ready when I drop it off at the shop. I need the work to be done in one single day hopefully. Its gonna be a month or so B4 I have enough $$$ for this project though.I guess since im spending so much $$$ on this, the front strut brace cant hurt as well as those anti sway bars. So far My total is $1435 from that website for 3 products. And a little more if I get the Tein SS, The list price on the ksport though says 1300. So its up to you guys. haha. Im just here to make the Vibe slammed with the info you all give me

JesseWHHS · Post by **JesseWHHS** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:26 am

So I'm convinced now, no going back.http://matrixowners.com/index....&st=0 That thread made me wanna cry from happiness. lol. and its not even my car. I am for sure doin this now. Who cares if I spend $2000 on this!Is it sumthin I could do in the driveway one weekend? If so I would love to save that $500 or w/e.

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:50 pm

Quote, originally posted by JesseWHHS Â»haha. what have you got me into!!! I was thinking $500 out the door for this crap. Now you got me thinking over a grand for JUST the coilovers. hahaSo do you think I should get the adjustable, and yes your answer will make me spend $300 more or less on this crap. haha.So I want to have EVERYTHING purchased and ready when I drop it off at the shop. I need the work to be done in one single day hopefully. Its gonna be a month or so B4 I have enough $$$ for this project though.I guess since im spending so much $$$ on this, the front strut brace cant hurt as well as those anti sway bars. So far My total is $1435 from that website for 3 products. And a little more if I get the Tein SS, The list price on the ksport though says 1300. So its up to you guys. haha. Im just here to make the Vibe slammed with the info you all give me Well, if you are going to spend the money, why NOT get the SS coilovers? I mean it can only make you handle that much better and allow you to make adjustments... As you go lower, you WILL need to increase the stiffness of the struts to keep you from bottoming.... That pic of that Matrix that low is dumb unless he is on air... one wrong move and there goes the bumper cover, i mean is says he scrapes everywhere... that's just dumb if you ask me... it's just to low... The Ksports come with adjustable camber plated also called top hats, it's the top of the strut, but with them there is no rubber, so no flex, and they have adjusters to allow you to correct the camber geometry as you go lower. They may also have more adjustments to, i didn't read that far... But if you want to go that low you WILL need camber plates, they work much better, are safer than camber bolts (like if they happen to slip, mid-corner, not good) and you prolly get more adjustment out of them than camber bolts...

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:54 pm

If you buy the SS coilovers, they "should" come assembled, so you can just un-bolt the old and install the new and head for the aligment shop. If you get something else, you will have to take the stock struts apart (with a spring compressor) and re-use the top hats... a lot more work, and if you haven't done it before it can be a VERY daunting task indeed... I know it was for me my first time... The sway bars and strut braces can be added without getting an alignment, so that can be done any time...

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 10:56 pm

Beware, if you really want to go that low, your car IS going to ride like a ROCK... as you will have little travel and LOTS of dampening....

JesseWHHS · Post by **JesseWHHS** » Fri Jul 20, 2007 11:23 pm

I won't ride with it that low. But it would be good for taking pictures. haha. Is it a lot of work to adjust teh height and other adjustments on these things? I have no idea how that would work.Also, I am thinking the camber plates for sure, even though I won't go that low, better to be safe I guess.Out of the two, which do you think would be best? The ksport or the ss?

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Sat Jul 21, 2007 4:02 am

As far as the hight adjustment, you have to jack it up, pull the wheels and turn 2 "collars" to make the change, as far as the valving adjustment, it's a knob or screw at the top or bottom of the strut... As far as which to get, i honestly don't know. It looks like the SS doesn't come with top mounts/camber plates, so that would have to be bought separate. The Ksport looks like they come with them, but i really just don't know, at this point you would be much better off calling never enough...

danielal · Post by **danielal** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:24 am

Hey I got the springs this afternoon! Do you guys know of any autoshop that will install these Teins? Does Midas or Meineke do this? We have an Import store here that will do it for $100 but they are fully book until Monday and I want to do it today!

02csnow · Post by **02csnow** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:31 am

You could do it yourself with a little help and a spring compresser. It will take you roughly 4 hours. But $100 is a good price to get springs installed.

danielal · Post by **danielal** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:36 am

Nooooooo! I dont want to risk of doing these myself. I have basic knowledge of oil change and fuel filter replacement but dont want to mess around with suspensions. I know its easy but no I dont trust myself! Lol!I wanted to do it today and maybe take it to a regular auto mechanic stores like Midas or Meineke but I dont think they would install Aftermarket springs.

JesseWHHS · Post by **JesseWHHS** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:39 am

just give it a try. lol. whats the worst that could happen?? lol. jk. Im sure you can really mess things up down there. I plan to do it myself though. Not sure about the spring compressor thing though, maybe give a shop $10 or $20 to let me use theirs? haha. Do I need teh compressor when I install the new springs? or jsut when I take off the old one?

02csnow · Post by **02csnow** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:40 am

Usually the only kind of shops that will install springs are the performance shops and some locally owned shops. Alot of the major shops will not do them, but it does'nt hurt to call around and ask. I did that before i decided to install mine myself.

02csnow · Post by **02csnow** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:41 am

Quote, originally posted by JesseWHHS Â»just give it a try. lol. whats the worst that could happen?? lol. jk. Im sure you can really mess things up down there. I plan to do it myself though. Not sure about the spring compressor thing though, maybe give a shop $10 or $20 to let me use theirs? haha. Do I need teh compressor when I install the new springs? or jsut when I take off the old one?U can go to a local autozone or advanced auto parts to rent a compressor. they charge you for it but you get refunded when u return them. and you need it to take off the stock springs and to put the new ones on.

kevera · Post by **kevera** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 6:50 am

ahahaha,Sublime did warn you.When you change the springs,you may want to get a camber kit.On the front I just replaced the lower bolt on either side,and I haven't did the back,but I should.It will get rid of the negative camber that the s-techs cause and your alignment will be right on.

danielal · Post by **danielal** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 7:37 am

Thanks for the advice guys but I don't have the time and effort to do it myself. I scheduled an appointment with a performance shop here on Monday and I'm excited!!!! Woooohooooo!

JesseWHHS · Post by **JesseWHHS** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 8:44 am

i plan on getting my allignment done right after obviously, and the shop said they will install camber plates if needed. Not sure how low imma drop it yet, so not sure if I will need it. I think I will find the biggest speed bump I have to go over, and make it JUST above that mark. lol.

kevera · Post by **kevera** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:07 am

Don't drop it to low.Curbs seem to be the biggest pain for me,speed bumps not so much.But I also have a lip on mine.I can't drive into some places in fear of scraping the crap out of my front .

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