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Would you make this trade in?

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I have a 2006 base Vibe with 20,000 km (12,000 miles) on it. I noticed a local dealer has a 2004 Vibe GT with 40,000 km (24,000 miles). If you wouldn't lose out by trading in the current 2006 would you make this trade for the extra fun factor?
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If the dealer were to throw in an extended warranty, maybe. My only concern would be how hard the car was driven by the previous owner.
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i wouldnt. but imo, the 2zz tranny isnt worth the trouble.
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Quote, originally posted by nygiantzz1 »If the dealer were to throw in an extended warranty, maybe. My only concern would be how hard the car was driven by the previous owner. It does seem kinda odd that it has low miles and its 3 years old. I would take a mechanic with you to see what they say....I did have a friend who bought a used 2006 Camry six months ago with only 3,000 miles on it and asides from her room mate wrecking the car its been a good car....
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Man that's a tough choice. you could always super or turbo charge the one you have and still have a newer car.
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If he traded, he would get the better looking front-end
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Quote, originally posted by silvrhawk7 »It does seem kinda odd that it has low miles and its 3 years old. I would take a mechanic with you to see what they say....My GT is an '04 that just turned over 25,000 miles....not that odd. I bought it new Dec '04 and mostly just use it to drive back and forth to work, with a couple of trips to Nebraska every year (800 miles round trip).
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When was it put into service........ it could still have factory warranty remaining. It appears that NUBlackshirts has approx. 10 mos./11K miles of factory warranty remaining on his '04.
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Quote, originally posted by thebarber »i wouldnt. but imo, the 2zz tranny isnt worth the trouble.Yep. I wouldn't do it either... Unless I wanted to learn how to change out my own clutch. Plus it's an older car, and well, I think I heard somebody here say you have to run premium fuel in those things!
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Quote, originally posted by ColonelPanic »Plus it's an older car, and well, I think I heard somebody here say you have to run premium fuel in those things! yeah CP you hafta use premium, but it's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. premium fuel is only about 20 cents a gallon more than regular fuel. if our lil 13 gallon tank was completely empty, it would only cost $2.60 more per tank than a base or awd, so it's not that bad. usin premium has started a couple conversations at the pump when people saw me hit the button for 91 octane(thas premium in CA, and YES it sucks compared to where i lived in indiana). they both asked "why are you puttin premium in that kinda car??" i jus told em to look at the redline on the dash. after that, they'd start talkin bout it's performance etc... they sounded interested in vibes after i talked to emi'd make the trade if it was a certified used GT, and also took a mechanic with me
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no. having had both.... not worth the hassle or dealing with the loss you would hit on a trade in. sure the GT is more fun imo, but not worth all the trouble. the slush box is still choppy and not smooth by any means. it's fun, but the 6MT can get a little old after awhile. also, as CP has said, watch out for that clutch... 36K miles and you will be replacing it.
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Quote, originally posted by MRCN RCE »yeah CP you hafta use premium, but it's not as bad as everyone makes it out to be. premium fuel is only about 20 cents a gallon more than regular fuel. if our lil 13 gallon tank was completely empty, it would only cost $2.60 more per tank than a base or awd, so it's not that bad. I know you have to. People miss my sarcasm on that one every time! If we had a dollar for every time someone has come on here and said "do I really have to run premium in my GT? but... but... I don't wanna run premium! Can't I just put 87 octane in one tank then mix it with 93 on the next????" we'd all have a zillion bucks!
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Quote, originally posted by NUBlackshirts »My GT is an '04 that just turned over 25,000 miles....not that odd. I bought it new Dec '04 and mostly just use it to drive back and forth to work, with a couple of trips to Nebraska every year (800 miles round trip).I Guess it depends on where you live.....My Jobs have me traveling between counties down here in FL, and i usually put about 15K a year on my vehicles. So Im always used to putting High mileage on my cars.
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Keep you car Shane,You already know your car,you may step into a whole lot of trouble with the GT.
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Heh, I'll be sending in the 9th payment on mine here pretty soon... And it will be turning over 20,000 by tomorrow or Monday. I don't know what I would do with myself if I could put on that kind of mileage over a period of several years. kevera makes a good point... What if that deal of the day GT was dumped by someone who wanted to make sure that car became someone else's problem? Na, not that there would be unreliable, problematic used Vibes out there in circulation or anything. Maybe it rarely left the shop, so that's why the mileage is so good. lol!
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Quote, originally posted by AKLGT »no. having had both.... not worth the hassle or dealing with the loss you would hit on a trade in. sure the GT is more fun imo, but not worth all the trouble. the slush box is still choppy and not smooth by any means. it's fun, but the 6MT can get a little old after awhile. also, as CP has said, watch out for that clutch... 36K miles and you will be replacing it. Mine lasted over 75k miles. The only reason it was changed then is because the car was apart. saved labor later on.An '03 with that mileage and I would say go for it. Best build of the GT's if you're looking at the fun factor. But then it's even another year older.
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No way! You know what you have, and I would guess the GT was "rode hard and put away wet", "worked like a rented mule", and driven like it was stolen. I am probably gunno take some flack for this...If you want a sports car buy a real sports car ie Z-car, corvette, subaru wrx etc. , not a wanna be econo-wagon with a high revving engine. Sorry to all GT owners, just my opinion.
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Quote, originally posted by MRCN RCE »premium fuel is only about 20 cents a gallon more than regular fuel. if our lil 13 gallon tank was completely empty, it would only cost $2.60 more per tank than a base or awd, so it's not that bad.20 cents is a lot in the grand scheme of things.Think about it.Let's say - hypothetically - you fuel up once a week.So an extra $2.60 a week, becomes $10.40 a month, which then becomes $124.80 a year, which, if the car lasts five years, becomes $624.Sure, it doesn't sound like a lot of money. But I can think of a lot more things I'd be doing with $624 -- that's more than 2 of my current car payments.
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Quote, originally posted by shane_c »I have a 2006 base Vibe with 20,000 km (12,000 miles) on it. I noticed a local dealer has a 2004 Vibe GT with 40,000 km (24,000 miles). If you wouldn't lose out by trading in the current 2006 would you make this trade for the extra fun factor?I would. Of course, I wouldnt have bought a base Vibe to begin with. No power. As with any used car, always have a mechanic check it out that you trust if you think there may be something wrong. The GT will bring you a better trade in value also later down the road.As for the GT tranny, hate to say, but if anyones clutch went out early, it's either a defect from the factory or they cant drive stick.My old cavy clutch went out right around 40K miles...all the time. 78K on the Vibe and still kicking, although I have an ACT clutch laying around...waiting.You have to make the decision on whether you want more power and less fuel economy and higher gas prices. The GT's require 91+ octane. But it's a lot of fun to drive and even more fun when you see the look on your passenger when the 'L' happens!
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Quote, originally posted by JohnC »No way! You know what you have, and I would guess the GT was "rode hard and put away wet", "worked like a rented mule", and driven like it was stolen. I am probably gunno take some flack for this...If you want a sports car buy a real sports car ie Z-car, corvette, subaru wrx etc. , not a wanna be econo-wagon with a high revving engine. Sorry to all GT owners, just my opinion.Wow. Tell us how you really feel...The GT is the exact model that drew me to the Vibe. Great on gas, sporty looks, lots of room and quick when you want it to be.I don't the vehicle was driven very hard. EVERYTIME I see a GT, it's an old woman driving. I doubt the majority of GT owners even realize what "lift" is.
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Quote, originally posted by savedbyzero »Wow. Tell us how you really feel...The GT is the exact model that drew me to the Vibe. Great on gas, sporty looks, lots of room and quick when you want it to be.I don't the vehicle was driven very hard. EVERYTIME I see a GT, it's an old woman driving. I doubt the majority of GT owners even realize what "lift" is.Yeah, if they wouldnt have had the GT model, I would have passed the Vibe up. It's not that you want a 'sports' car, it's you want something that can haul things and not be afraid to get out on the highway, and suprise those people who think 'it's only a wagon'. Try hauling something in those other cars mentioned above besides a McDonalds bag in the passenger seat. You're comparing a $21k car with cars over $30k. If I had that money to blow on a vehicle, I'd be driving an Evo or the likes.
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And now I have another wagon that isn't exactly a "sports car". But with 350 hp and 390 ft/lb of torque, she get's out of her own way?
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Well I said it was just my opinion...but here is what Auto Mall USA had to say.The Vibe GT almost qualifies for pocket-rocket status. Pontiac says the GT will sprint from 0 to 60 mph in less than 8.5 seconds, compared to 9 or 10 seconds for the base car and 11.5 for the AWD.Final WordThe Pontiac Vibe is roomy, versatile and economical, and new safety options further its appeal. Vibe features an innovative cargo system and house current on tap for laptops and other electrical appliances. Vibe offers an extensive list of standard equipment in all three models, though power windows and door locks are extra-cost options. And it benefits from Toyota quality standards.The standard model seems the smartest buy, while the all-wheel-drive model adds all-weather capability. We found the Vibe GT less compelling. It's nearly $3,000 more than the standard model and the engine and suspension tuning are not conducive to pleasant motoring around town. For $3k I could build a fast autocross car, then drive my dependable base Vibe back and forth to work so I can pay for both. The GT is only about 1.5 seconds faster than a base 0 to 60mph.http://www.automallusa.net/200....html
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Never heard of Auto Mall USA. No, the GT isn't the quickest car around. But I, personally would have never been pleased with the base model. 8300 screaming RPM's can be a lot of fun every now and then.Everywhere else I've seen has the GT listed as low to mid 7 sec 0-60. So let's make a 2.5 sec difference. In that short of a distance, that's quite a bit.There is also no "suspension tuning" between the base and the GT. So I'm kinda confused as to why they said "suspension tuning are not conducive to pleasant motoring around town". It's all the same, except you get upgraded brakes with the GT.SO for recap, in a GT for the $3000, you get a bigger motor/more HP, sportier tranny, better brakes, not to mention a lot of little things here and there that add up.That all being said, with the current HP restrictions on the new GT's, it would be much more appealing to go with the base and supercharger option.
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Guess we could just agree to disagree on the GT vs base. I really like my base vibe decause it hauls three 225+ lbs people 101 miles a day to and from work, then pulls my quad trailer on my days off all while getting in the low 30s mpg. Not to mention all the stuff that fits inside it with the back seats down. All for $15k.Like you said the wife's 350Z doesn't haul much but that is not what we bought it for. It has 300hp and wieghs just 200lbs more than the vibe. The Z handles like it is on rails, pins you into the seat when accelerating and is just a well designed sports car. It was $26k.
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All those reasons are exactly why about a Magnum! And it likes to eat Z's. In a straight line, anyways! The Z is hot looking little car! What color did you get?
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Speaking of GT clutches, I've got 42K on mine, so far so good. And I taught my son to drive a stick with it too.However, DON'T valet park if you can help it. I never do, but had no practical choice 3x in the last month. I can hear them revving it, trying to get it rolling, stalling it, and then when I get it in I smell that burnt clutch smell. I swear they cannot find first gear and smoke the clutch to get it going in 3rd.
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Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »20 cents is a lot in the grand scheme of things.Think about it.Let's say - hypothetically - you fuel up once a week.So an extra $2.60 a week, becomes $10.40 a month, which then becomes $124.80 a year, which, if the car lasts five years, becomes $624.Sure, it doesn't sound like a lot of money. But I can think of a lot more things I'd be doing with $624 -- that's more than 2 of my current car payments. true, i see where you're comin from. but how many times have you spent a couple bucks on that bag of chips n a soda or somethin that you don't really need when you're in the gas station, or stopped at mcdonalds(which i LOVE to do ) on your way home to get somethin quick when there's a kitchen full of food that doesn't take much more time to make than sittin in the drive thru waitin on someone to make that food for you?? cut that mc d's stop back once, and there's enough for you to fill up twice. that's jus how i think of it. so for me, that $2.60 a week isn't really too difficult to part with (sorry bout the thread jackin)::announcer voice:: and now back to our regularly scheduled topic, already in progress
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Quote, originally posted by savedbyzero »Never heard of Auto Mall USA. No, the GT isn't the quickest car around. But I, personally would have never been pleased with the base model. 8300 screaming RPM's can be a lot of fun every now and then.Everywhere else I've seen has the GT listed as low to mid 7 sec 0-60. So let's make a 2.5 sec difference. In that short of a distance, that's quite a bit.There is also no "suspension tuning" between the base and the GT. So I'm kinda confused as to why they said "suspension tuning are not conducive to pleasant motoring around town". It's all the same, except you get upgraded brakes with the GT.SO for recap, in a GT for the $3000, you get a bigger motor/more HP, sportier tranny, better brakes, not to mention a lot of little things here and there that add up.That all being said, with the current HP restrictions on the new GT's, it would be much more appealing to go with the base and supercharger option.agreed 100%however, if i already had a base vibe 5 MT, i wouldn't trade it in for an 03 GT.. i'd rather wait, and just buy an STI or WRX then you get awd and fun together. or if you want to stay in that GM family, go with the Saabaru, 9.2S (WRX in disguise).
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I would just supercharge the base model and call it a stealth GT!
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Quote, originally posted by Baltovibe »If he traded, he would get the better looking front-end True Story
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Quote, originally posted by MywifesGT »I would just supercharge the base model and call it a stealth GT!turbo that bad boy. it will make more power. the turbo lag is almost unnoticeable... and still quite stealth. :D
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Quote, originally posted by Baltovibe »If he traded, he would get the better looking front-end haha thats true. insurance would probably be more on a GT though wouldnt it?
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no not really. Mav's base vibe was the same as my GT. but i'm sure it also depends on your driving record and your insurance co. sometimes they make that call.
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