HID Questions and Options

josholiver1 · Post by **josholiver1** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 10:23 am

I am really interested in a new HID kit.I am wondering if this http://www.xenonking.com/Mccul....html is all i have to buy or do i need to buy additional parts..and is this a good site? I used the search..but didnt find anything about this..I love my Euro Dezign headlamps...kinda....My DRLs (i hooked them back up for winter so i could get the Auto Lamp back on) are reallly...i meen really dim in the day...and at night u have to look really closeto see the blue...and durring rain, or wet roads the light seems to dissapear completly...so im going to upgrade to HID's i u guys think this is all i have to buy.. Update: My REALLY blue fog lamps received a comment from a cop at my local subway were i work..he thought they were Escalade HID's in my fog lamps. I told him YES! lol, because the blue fog protector i have are illegal...i think?

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 11:22 am

Well, first off, I don't know if this is just an example, or if you're actually considering getting a 10,000K kit, but if you are, I'd strongly urge you to reconsider. 10,000K is VERY dark...it's more color output than light. If you want that blue hue, go for 7 or 8K...but 10 is nuts. I have 6K in my G6 and they even have a nice blue tint to them.That being said, that kit doesn't give you a wiring harness. You really should opt to use a wiring harness to power the lights direct off the battery, and not off the stock wiring. It will allow you to keep the DRL's active, as well as your ALS. Also, it avoids any potential issues with HID's drawing too much current. Doesn't happen often, but it can.I buy all my kits from http://www.superhids.com/, and they've always provided me with the wiring harness in the box.

justin0469 · Post by **justin0469** » Fri Feb 16, 2007 1:22 pm

Just remember, HID kits are actually illegal unless you retrofit your headlights with HID optics. Without retrofiting, the nonHID lenses will distort the light and doesn't give the crisp cutoff and blinds other drivers.http://www.intellexual.net/hid.htmlInstalling HID's into a vehicle not originally equipped with them from the factory is technically illegal. Practically speaking, you stand little chance of being cited for them provided you educate yourself on the requirements of HID lighting and take the necessary steps to ensure you have the right equipment and adjustments to keep it safe. That is, make sure your vehicle's headlight assembly uses an appropriately designed projector lense (as opposed to a reflector), and of course that your headlights are properly aligned after installation. Many newer vehicles use projector lenses because stock halogen bulbs also benefit from the "light shaping", but having just any old projector lense does not necessarily ensure that the beam pattern will be correct. It is absolutely essential for HID's to give the light output a sharp cutoff line to prevent blinding oncoming traffic. As HID's become more popular, aftermarket projector housings are being produced for some vehicles.The Department of Transportation (DOT) states that improperly-installed HID's are getting a lot of complaints. Vendors will usually include a disclaimer that they are intended for offroad use only, but it's no secret that people don't follow this rule. Now, there are a lot of aftermarket automotive parts that qualify as illegal but aren't strictly enforced. Logically, the safety implications of blinding oncoming drivers are more serious than, say, an exhaust that exceeds the legal noise level. So the DOT has actively gone after vendors of HID conversion kits, threatening monetary fines if they continue selling them, and consequently there are now fewer places to buy them.http://orca.st.usm.edu/~jmneal/tiburon/hids.htm#9Even the website in the original post has FAQ that says:NO XENON HID conversion kit available from any source is DOT approved if installed outside of the factory. Moreover, in the U.S, this is not street legal for use on public roads. As a result, we officially endorse the kit for exhibition and off-road use and will only sell the kit to be used for these purposes. We are not responsible for buyers who violate the terms of sale while in which they will assume all responsibilities for any unauthorized or unintended use other than exhibition or off-road use

josholiver1 · Post by **josholiver1** » Sun Feb 18, 2007 7:28 am

thanx guys...i am lookn at a 8,000 kit not the 10,000 it was just an example...Ill look into the reflectors they look better:)

josholiver1 · Post by **josholiver1** » Sat Feb 24, 2007 11:13 am

the link says error..even on google

His_and_Her_Vibes · Post by **His_and_Her_Vibes** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 7:29 am

Didn't want to start a new thread, so...Has anyone tried these? Will they work on the Vibe?http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...QrdZ1Thanks for any help

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:07 am

You won't need those.The reflector already has it inplace and any kit you buy will have the shield already there as well.

His_and_Her_Vibes · Post by **His_and_Her_Vibes** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 8:39 am

OOOooooh KColor me stupid! I have much to learn. I bought some used headlights off eBay to black out or "JDM" if you like and was thinking about trying HIDs or HIRs.What are GenVibers recommendations?

His_and_Her_Vibes · Post by **His_and_Her_Vibes** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 9:07 am

I could just bite the bullet and go for a full HID projector Mod!!!http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItemAny help, comments & opinions wanted - Gracias el Mucho!

His_and_Her_Vibes · Post by **His_and_Her_Vibes** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 1:59 pm

Hey Keithvibe, How about these? Is this the type of kit you we're refering too? Any cheaper alternatives? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWThank You!

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:32 pm

Quote, originally posted by His_and_Her_Vibes Â»I could just bite the bullet and go for a full HID projector Mod!!!http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...wItemAny help, comments & opinions wanted - Gracias el Mucho!thats a nice way to go because you have a second set of headlights laying around while you do the conversion.You may have trouble passing inspection with the projector retrofit because it's not an option on the vibe and if the shop you take it to is aware of that chances are they won't pass it because it's not OEM.

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Sat Jun 23, 2007 10:52 pm

Quote, originally posted by His_and_Her_Vibes Â»Hey Keithvibe, How about these? Is this the type of kit you we're refering too? Any cheaper alternatives? http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors...ZWDVWThank You!If you have that kind of cash laying around for headlights spend it on a good set, http://www.xenonpros.com/mc6000k.htmlYou don't have to get it from them but look for:McCullochorPhilipsI didn't so i went withhttp://www.oznium.com/hidThe kit is a bit confusing because the instructions SUCK...but I installed them months ago and have put them to very good use and have not had one issue with them yet.I didn't pay the price they are selling them for now i got in on a group by on MO and picked them up cheap. Look for group buys going on on MO, here and 9th gen Besure though that they are offering the 9003 or h4 bi-xenon bulb for the group buy price chances are it's more expensive.;

manicdan · Post by **manicdan** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 11:54 am

keith i got the oznium kit as well and im confused as to the proper wiring of their kit.i connected the split black wire to the ground and my high beams wouldn't work. if u can give a quick picture showing ur setup that would be awsome

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Sat Jun 30, 2007 10:18 pm

no problem... I'll take photos of my wiring today so you can see how I have them wired. photosPassenger side diagram... driver side is close to being the same, just a tad different, I can't get to it with out removing the battery to take photos.Factory red wire with white strip plugs into the yellow wire directly from the bulbFactory red with black strip connects to the green jumper wire which is then connected to the black wire from the headlight bulb.Factory red wire is connected to the black pig tailed wire which has the other yellow wire and red wire from the bulb.

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Sun Jul 01, 2007 9:28 pm

keithvibe,Man you might want to do yourself a favor and re-do your connection with some dielectric grease... It will keep the connections from corroding over time... cheap insurance.... AKA headlight grease.... lol

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:20 am

HAHAHA... I wiped most of it off to take the photo... No worries I reapplied a lot more after the photo was taken and re wrapped the connections in shrink tubing. Thanks for the heads up though.

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:30 am

Quote, originally posted by justin0469 Â»Just remember, HID kits are actually illegal unless you retrofit your headlights with HID optics. Well, technically, HID systems not installed by the factory are illegal. Period. Regardless of whether or not you put the proper projection in.

Whelan · Post by **Whelan** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:30 am

Quote, originally posted by keithvibe Â»You won't need those.The reflector already has it inplace and any kit you buy will have the shield already there as well.You mean the headlamp itself has the reflector cutoff on it, not the bulb right. Cause and HID bulb does not come with a shield. And the shields and reflectors on cars made for halogen are not the same. It is blinding with an HID kit no matter how you aim them. I even heard of an HID kit that was claimed to be optically balanced? Apparently they thought there was a way to actually adjust the way the light from an HID bulb goes, ha, not by adjusting the bulb, its an arc of light and...nevermind, lol. I'm a little spent explaining the technicals. But basically its illegal for a reason on cars not equipped for HID.

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 12:33 am

Quote, originally posted by josholiver1 Â»the link says error..even on googleI don't know who you are talking to.But if it's me, yes, i know, I suspect that company went under. Sucks. They were a good group to deal with.

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 1:59 am

I am aware of the legalities of the HID issue... I just had my vibe inspected about 3hrs ago with both HID kits installed, headlight and fog light... the guy didn't think twice about it.Passed with flying colors.Some kits do come with the cutoff sheild. I have seen them, some don't.Good readinghttp://www.suvlights.com/infor...id=32

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 2:07 am

Quote, originally posted by Whelan Â»It is blinding with an HID kit no matter how you aim them. I disagree.I had full 4-lamp HID conversion in the vibe, and I soon will have projection HID low/highs and projection HID fogs in the G6. I NEVER, and I mean NEVER, once, was flashed by oncoming traffic because my lights were blinding. I also talked to numerous people who drove both in front of, and into, my beams, and they all told me the light was in no way distracting.With careful aiming, you CAN reduce - if not eliminate - glare to other drivers, and still get the benefits of the increased light output.

manicdan · Post by **manicdan** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:26 am

the only reason its illegal is cause they dont trust us to do things right. its simply the government doubting the people like alwaysthanks for the photo i should have it fixed in 20 seconds

CountryVibe · Post by **CountryVibe** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:31 am

It all about the person drive the other car. I get flashed about once a week, when my low beams are on, with just stock headlights,

Sublimewind · Post by **Sublimewind** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:35 am

Quote, originally posted by CountryVibe Â»It all about the person drive the other car. I get flashed about once a week, when my low beams are on, with just stock headlights, Your lights could be aimed wrong... Ever think of that possibility?

Whelan · Post by **Whelan** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 3:55 am

You guys must live in lucky states. People in CT have pretty much stopped with the HID aftermarket because they pull you over almost instantaneously. Same as they do for having tints under 35%, if you drive a 4-door, having your front driver and passenger side windows tinted at all. Not to mention all the other things like neons, washer lights, etc. etc.I'll get my HID in my Lexus when I get one.

keithvibe · Post by **keithvibe** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:22 am

Quote, originally posted by Whelan Â»I'll get my HID in my Lexus when I get one.

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Mon Jul 02, 2007 6:52 am

Quote, originally posted by Whelan Â»You guys must live in lucky states. People in CT have pretty much stopped with the HID aftermarket because they pull you over almost instantaneously. Same as they do for having tints under 35%, if you drive a 4-door, having your front driver and passenger side windows tinted at all. Not to mention all the other things like neons, washer lights, etc. etc.NEver been bothered for my HIDs, but I have friends who were adventurous and tinted their front passenger/driver windows (illegal in NJ). The cops pull you over in a HEARTBEAT for that.Guess it all depends on priorities.

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