MY Computer needs a new video card

[zionzr2]

Well my Video Card is failing. Its a AGP 8X ATI Radeon 9500 PRO 128MB DDRIts at least 4 years old.I need to replace it and looking to upgrade (obviously with a 4yr old card)I've been looking at NewEgg and looking at the HIS Hightech H165PRQ512AN-R Radeon X1650PRO 512MB 128-bit GDDR2 AGP 4X/8X IceQ Video Card http://www.newegg.com/Product/...61032I was wondering if anyone has heard of or know anything about this brand?I would like to stick with the ATI Chipsets as that is what i am used to.Your Suggestions and thoughts welcomed!Thanks!

[northvibe]

Ive never heard of that brand, but every 3rd party ATI card manufacture I have had experience with has sucked...bad, except the MSI ati card works good. If you want a ATI card get an ATI brand card (first party). Its worth the extra bucks to get a quality card. Ive had my ATI 9600XT, like 3 yrs ago and its kicking strong as hell, even have dual displays running and i used to game hardcore.My roommate got a 3rd party brand ati card and had to replace it twice because it kept breaking with in a week, so he talked newegg into just letting him buy the ATI 9600xt and they let him.

[ragingfish]

If you want to just get a cheapo replacement I got a ton of extra video cards lying around, I could send you one...IM me if you're interested...

[zionzr2]

here is the card I'm now consideringhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/...02606

[redlava]

Separate question here. I also am looking for a new graphics card. My motherboard has a slot for an AGP 4X. Can I or can't I run an AGP 8X card. It is hard trying to find a decent 4X card out there. And there is a crap load of good 8X. And I am having trouble finding the information.Looking at this one http://www.newegg.com/Product/...45139Right now I am running with a 256mb GeForce 5200 PCI card. And I need a little more power to play some of the newer games out there.Thanks.

[nygiantzz1]

The card you chose will work in an AGP 4X slot. You may want to consider this one: http://www.newegg.com/Product/...50198 It's the same specs, but 17.00 cheaper after the rebate. Chaintech has a decent reputation and XFX is good too. I currently have an XFX GeForce 6600GT installed and it has worked flawlessly for over a year.

[ragingfish]

Quote, originally posted by nygiantzz1 »XFX GeForce 6600GTIs that a variant of the NVIDIA GeForce cards?

[coldmm803]

yes raging it is, anything with geforce in the name is an nvidia card

[scherry2]

Bill, My Emachine just went caput and I just happen to have a PNY GeForce FX5200 DDR 256MB PCI card sitting here doing nothing. I don't think I need it in my new HP. its less than a year old. IM me...and... I'm looking for a 256MG 100mhz Sdram ram card for my son's old compaq presario if anyone has an old one.

[Jahntassa]

What, exactly, do you want this card to be able to do? Games? Just web browsing? Video?The 7000 series is about six years old and is now basically 'bargain basement' chipset. If you're planning on upgrading to Vista, it will work, but you won't be able to run the 'bells and whistles'.If you want a card that can do some 3d stuff decently, I have an AGP ATI All-In-Wonder 9000 series sitting on my desk. That has the TV tuner built in as well as DVI / VGA / TV output (not all at once). If you're interested just let me know.FWIW, ATI hasn't kept up in quality lately. I tried getting my wife a newer ATI card (the x1600 series) and it stunk for games, bad. She now has an nVidia 6800GS, and I have an nVidia 7900GS. I have officially turned from ATI to nVidia..which is not how I used to be!

[zionzr2]

I guess i should have updated this thread.I went with a ATI Radeon X850Pro.and its running great.I also added a fan and changed out to round IDE cables.Sherry2: I might have three 128MB 100mhz SDram Cards. If that would interest you.

[redlava]

Thanks for the info everybody.

[nygiantzz1]

Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa »The 7000 series is about six years old and is now basically 'bargain basement' chipset. If you're planning on upgrading to Vista, it will work, but you won't be able to run the 'bells and whistles'.Nvidia released the 7000 series of GPU's in 2005, I think you mean the ATI Radeon 7000 series. I agree with you on the ATI chips, they haven't kept up. Maybe now that AMD owns ATI, that will change.

[redlava]

Well after a bout of early onset carpal tunnel syndrome and retinal detachment from 10 hours of surfing the web for reviews and comparisons I have made a decision. I am going with the Sapphire Radeon X1650 Pro. I hope it works. Also ordered 1 gig of additional memory as well.http://www.newegg.com/Product/...02057 Hopefully this will keep me gaming for a while until I can afford to rebuild my PC at a much farther date down the road. Should be here on Thursday, I'll let you know how things go. If you don't hear from me, than something has gone terribly wrong and my PC is fried.

[scherry2]

Quote, originally posted by zionzr2 »Scherry2: I might have three 128MB 100mhz SDram Cards. If that would interest you.Nope I have one 256mb card and a 128 already, I want two 256 mb cards to bump it up to 512. thanks anyway.

[Jahntassa]

Quote »Nvidia released the 7000 series of GPU's in 2005, I think you mean the ATI Radeon 7000 series. I agree with you on the ATI chips, they haven't kept up. Maybe now that AMD owns ATI, that will change. This post is where I was talking about the Radeon 7000 series. The link takes me to a page where the first thing you see is a Radeon 7000 for $17.I doubt AMD will do anything useful to the ATI line. And I know about the 7000 series of nVidia, i'm running a 7900GS in my system, and a 7300GS in my wife's.Quote, originally posted by zionzr2 »here is the card I'm now consideringhttp://www.newegg.com/Product/...02606

[nygiantzz1]

I had a feeling you meant that one, but there were several cards mentioned in this thread. How do you like the 7900 so far? I'm still running a 6600GT and will probably upgrade again in the next year.

[redlava]

CRAP!!!!My computer won't recognize the new hardware. I am pretty sure I have it seated properly, but the monitor won't display anything. I had to hook it up to the power supply so my floppy drive's power connection got sacrificed for this use. No idea what the problem is. Will I have to upgrade the BIOS as well?

[nygiantzz1]

OK, a couple of questions;1. Did you uninstall the drivers before installing the new card?2. Is the power supply large enough? (300W or larger) there also may be an issue with not enough amperage on the 12V rail. You were running an NVidia card already, Bios is probably OK.

[redlava]

Yes to the driver uninstallAnd I have a 430W power supply.

[nygiantzz1]

I just read your post from 01/27/07. Did you install the memory at the same time? Try taking everything out, put the old card back in and see if it boots. If it does, try installing the video card only. If it boots, install the drivers, reboot, test it out, then try the memory. If not, you either have a defective component or not enough amperage on the 5V or 12V output of your Power Supply. 430W should be enough provided there is at least 30amps dedicated to the 5V side and 12-15amps for the 12V side.

[nygiantzz1]

I had another thought on this, Your BIOS shouldn't need to be flashed, but there may be a couple settings that need changing. What is brand/ model of your Mobo? You'll want the primary display adapter set to AGP and if there is a setting for it, your AGP port should be set to 4X. (this may be a jumper or a soft setting in the BIOS).

[redlava]

Quote, originally posted by nygiantzz1 »I had another thought on this, Your BIOS shouldn't need to be flashed, but there may be a couple settings that need changing. What is brand/ model of your Mobo? You'll want the primary display adapter set to AGP and if there is a setting for it, your AGP port should be set to 4X. (this may be a jumper or a soft setting in the BIOS). It's a Soyo SY-P4VGM v1.0And I already tried that and it still didn't work. It might be the power issues you posted about. I have pretty much tried everything else. My bro in law built my system so I will probably ask him this weekend if he can look at it. If not I will just return it and use my old PCI.

[nygiantzz1]

I checked the Mobo specs, it should run the vid card just fine. I've run into this before and it's almost always the Power Supply. See what your brother in law has to say, If you can afford it, a decent PS runs about $40.00 plus shipping. You might even be able to catch a sale at a local store (Comp USA, Best Buy, etc.)

[redlava]

I'll get back into the setup and check the power numbers to be sure.

[rebbierae]

Ok I'm sorry to go completely off topic here, but do you guys realize what an AWESOME site this is? Member requests information about a new video card, and two other members offer to send him said cards--how great is that? Several others offer the help he needs and he gets his new card! Sorry--that sounded really cheese but I'm in an introspective mood today and I just thought that was cool. Ok, back On topic!

[redlava]

I agree.It is usually the first place I go with any technical difficulties I have.

[nygiantzz1]

I was able to do a little research on the mobo and vid card. You need a Power Supply that can sustain a continuous 22amps+ on the 12V rail for the CPU and Video Card to operate properly. Check the label on the side of the PS. Your mobo requires a 24 pin PS, 20 pin main + 4 pin connector. Even though your PS is rated for 430watts, the amperage distribution may not meet specs. You're not looking at the Peak outputs, you need to determine the continuous outputs, it will be on the label.

[redlava]

Well after about two hours of fiddling around, my bro-in-law and I couldn't get the card to work. I only see three possible reasons: In some way my power source isn't supplying the power to the card properly, my AGP slot in my computer is dead, or the card itself is dead. Beyond that there is no reason I or he could see that it wouldn't work. So back to Newegg it goes. Maybe I can find a faster PnP PCI card than I have someplace.The card I have now works but it is becoming a bottleneck in my system the more recent games I start playing. MY NFSMW plays now, but it gets jerky ever once in a while, hopefully my RAM upgrade will help that out a little but I'm not to optimistic. Back to the drawing board I guess.Thanks for your help nygiantzz1.

[ragingfish]

I think i'm the only one here running my desktop's monitor off the integrated video on the motherboard. LOL!

[nygiantzz1]

I wish you could have got it working. Don't bother with a PCI slot card, you won't gain much from what you've got. What is the brand/ model on your Power Supply? I still think that's your problem. I had a 450watt Enlight PS in my PC until I bought my GeForce 6600GT. I encountered the same issue as you. I bought a CoolerMaster Extreme 430watt PS, less watts, but single 12v rail that sustains 19amps. It solved the problem. Let me know the info on yours and I'll check the specs.

[redlava]

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/ol...58494Not sure if this is the exact one, don't have the box anymore. But I know it is an Antec. I bought it from Best Buy at least a year ago and this is the only one I see from their website. Not really in the mood to crack her open again to look. Thanks for your help anyway. The expanded memory helped a little bit for game play. Probably in a couple of years I will just upgrade my motherboard and chipset, then I can have a PCI-E.

[ArcsVibe]

Sorry to bump an old thread but I have a question. I want to replace my nVidia 7600 GS with someone faster that can play some new games and not cost $$$$$ basically a "best bang for the buck card" (like my old 7600GS) any suggestions?Someone told me about the 9500GT? Let me know!

[psiu]

Is it an AGP or PCIe card you currently have? If AGP you are kind of stuck for the most part.

[ArcsVibe]

Quote, originally posted by psiu »Is it an AGP or PCIe card you currently have? If AGP you are kind of stuck for the most part.Here are my specs:Intel Quad Core Q6600 2.4GHzRAM 3GB DDR2640GB 7200RPMDVD+/-RW With DVD-RAMIntegrated NVIDIA GeForce 7100 Graphics300 watts Power Supply (will be upgraded to 450-500watts)PCI E x 16 (available slot)I installed my old nVidia 7600GS for the moment but my question is: As a casual gamer what card would you all recommend? The type of games I play are COD series, Medal of Honor, FIFA, NHL etcThanks for helping me out!

[northvibe]

depends how much you want to spend. Um for under $70 I got my coworker a ati based 512md3 radeon hd 3850 gddr3 pci express 2.0 x 16. it was on newegg with a mail in rebate, think it was like 50 after rebate and he can play a lot of games now at almost max or max, like fear and farcry.Otherwise if you like nvidia the 8600gt is a decent card from them.

[NascarXprt]

im looking at replacing my card as well im just not sure as to what my specs are cause atm im not at my computer, im at work. but once i get my specs up id need some help to up grade.