this thing looks stupid

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:28 pm

http://www.realtechnews.com/posts/3487just look at the controller! what the hell is that? is nintendo retarded, who would want that? who the hell bought a game cube anyway?

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:32 pm

LOL, dude did you see them play that FPS where you used the controller as a sword? idk seems like it could be cool but might wear your wrist out. as for GC i dont have one but mario kart! come on GC is fun with lots of people playing

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:43 pm

never played GC, but N64's mario kart was sweet! we used to all get drunk and have tournaments!the controller just seems useless. imagine trying to play a game like grand theft auto with that. how can you move around and shoot at the same time? also, imagine watching someone use the "sword" function!

redlava · Post by **redlava** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 10:54 pm

It's Nintendo, they don't have GTO. The most violent game they have ever had was probably Mike Tyson's Punchout. And the controller is probably made for the 10 year olds that buy them. It might do fairly well, but it looks like they were trying to hard to do the futuristic look.

GrayFox · Post by **GrayFox** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:13 am

Quote, originally posted by redlava Â»The most violent game they have ever had was probably Mike Tyson's Punchout. They have the majority of the resident evil series. Nintendo is looking for something different and it'll be interesting to see how it goes.

ZubenElGenubi · Post by **ZubenElGenubi** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:31 am

You could almost mistake the controller for an ipod

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:24 am

I haven't bought a gaming system since 1999 (PS1)...this one has sparked my interest again. I just hope it works smoothly. If the controller response to your 3d movements is slow, it could end up being useless...but if it's smooth, it should be something completely different.Quote, originally posted by drunkenmaxx Â»the controller just seems useless. imagine trying to play a game like grand theft auto with that.The Wii is supposed to accept the wavebird controller too.

Kari · Post by **Kari** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:27 am

Quote, originally posted by drunkenmaxx Â»who the hell bought a game cube anyway?Me. I agree that it reminds me of the 8-bit NES controller, and the reason it's standing up in the picture is because it doubles as a remote for the DVD player function, if I had to guess, and you can turn it around (i.e. the NES controller) for gameplay.I can't use PlayStation controllers either...just way too many buttons. The GameCube really has too many for my liking, but I had a few cross-platform games I wanted to be able to play so I bought one. I it.

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 1:33 am

when i first started playing playstation just a couple years ago, the buttons drove me crazy, there were way too many. once you get used to it though, they become just as easy as NES was all those years ago. for many games, the extra buttons really come in handy.

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:33 am

the wii controller has addon's too, theres that and then the one that is a addon that goes in your other hand with a analog stick. there also might be a wheel that that stick one plugs into and stuff. idk it could work....ill wait till i play one. and actually i might be getting a gamecube soon from a coworker! lots of mario games heck yes.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:05 am

I'm perfectly comfortable with the Playstation controllers, having had one in my hand almost daily since they came out back in the mid 90s. Its all the other weird controllers out there that mess me up.

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:14 am

i think the playstation has an awesome setup. (once you are used to it) the analogs are great for driving games and stuff like that.the problem is, nintendo just won't have the software support that sony has. hell, even xbox is going to struggle trying to keep up. the bottom line is that playstation is pretty much a household name and people will buy the new systems for simple brand loyalty to a product that has consistantly made them happy.anyone remember the jaguar? (64 bit ahead of its time) great possibilities, no software. no purchasers32X - pretty cool, and cheap since it was an add on to the genesis (i had one, it rocked)- same thingsaturn - same crap, sony already cornered the marketgamecube - yepthe only thing to even come close to competing with sony is microsoft, but only in RPG and online type stuff. (IMO)sony will come out on top once their new system hits and the price goes down.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:39 am

the XBox has a big chunk of the online market with their games like Halo, COD and other first person shooters. I believe the new PS3 will be a direct threat to that claim Xbox has right now in that market. I'm brand loyal to Sony and will be getting the next system. I think what Sony did wonderfully was the backwards compatability. That was one of the sell points to. You don't need to keep the old system around when the new system plays the old games. And I got a ton of old games I still play. Thats exactly what bugged me about the other guys. They make a new system and abandon the old games.

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:43 am

eck-friggin'-sactly!

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:22 am

ps3 is going to take over the market, its going to be the cheapest blu-ray player, it has more features than x360, and yea larger game content.I read a blog from a game producer that said ps3 vs xbox360 with same game , ps3 looks better

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:49 am

Quote, originally posted by northvibe Â»ps3 is going to take over the market, its going to be the cheapest blu-ray player, it has more features than x360, and yea larger game content.I read a blog from a game producer that said ps3 vs xbox360 with same game , ps3 looks better sweet now when can I get one? lol. Been eagerly waiting for Metal Gear Solid 4, Heaven's Sword just to name a few.

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:07 am

Quote, originally posted by northvibe Â»I read a blog from a game producer that said ps3 vs xbox360 with same game , ps3 looks better Based on what? A video? Isn't that why Sony got slammed at E3 this year? Because the year before (2005) they showed grandiose videos of games and this year when they showed actual games they were not much better than a 360?Playstation will always be king in terms of global sales because Japan is huge and Microsoft can't seem to penetrate over there. I also think the Playstation price will be a limitation to many people ($500 for the console plus $??? for games). Sure that price will eventually drop, but so will the 360 price and the Wii price. I've heard rumors that Microsoft may drop their price when PS3 is released...if that is true, you can almost buy both a 360 (for HD graphics) and a Wii (for alternative game play) for the cost of one PS3.Bottom line, Playstation will probably still win the next generation of gaming, but I don't think they'll be as far ahead of Microsoft this round, especially in North America. As for the Wii, I think they'll do much better than GC (as long as their innovative controller is smooth and responsive) because it will provide an alternative gaming experience and not a competing gaming experience.Isn't speculation fun? EDIT: According to IGN, Sony recently announced that it would ready 400,000 PS3s in North America and another 100,000 in Japan for the system's launch. Nintendo said it plans to ship 4 million Wii units worldwide by the end of the year.

jwalcik · Post by **jwalcik** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 11:40 am

Quote, originally posted by drunkenmaxx Â»just look at the controller! what the hell is that? is nintendo retarded, who would want that? who the hell bought a game cube anyway?me, and me. i actually stopped by gamecrazy on my way home to verify that i didn't need to make any changes to the preorder i made in march (after the announcments today).the games that made the gamecube fun weren't GTA, or any of the other games that were ported from other systems. it was mario kart, mario baseball, the metroid prime titles, wind waker (in spite of the silly graphics), and most especially pikmin. games like that will translate fantastically to the new controller, and they'll still be just as much fun. mario party w/ a group of friends and four of those remotes? genius. nintendo has made it clear that they're not after the "hardcore" market (where titles like the GTA games, Halo, the Final Fantasies, and the like all thrive). they're after casual gamers. people who don't necessarily care about the graphics and just want a game that's fun. i've played maybe a dozen games for the gamecube. each one was thoroughly fun. in that same time i've played probably 30 games for other systems (xbox, xbox360, or ps2), and while many of them were enjoyable as well, the nintendo experience is just different. easy, clean, and fun. come november, i'll own both the 360 and the wii. the 360 and the ps3 will duke it out for the "core" gamer market, but for at least the next six months, it'll be an uphill fight for the ps3 based solely on it's price point. if the cheapest bluray player on the market is going to cost $600 + the price of an HDMI cable (sony announced earlier this week that it wouldn't be bundled), then i think i'll be quite happy with standard dvd's for a while.

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:36 pm

Quote, originally posted by silver_vibe Â»Based on what? A video? Isn't that why Sony got slammed at E3 this year? Because the year before (2005) they showed grandiose videos of games and this year when they showed actual games they were not much better than a 360?Playstation will always be king in terms of global sales because Japan is huge and Microsoft can't seem to penetrate over there. I also think the Playstation price will be a limitation to many people ($500 for the console plus $??? for games). Sure that price will eventually drop, but so will the 360 price and the Wii price. I've heard rumors that Microsoft may drop their price when PS3 is released...if that is true, you can almost buy both a 360 (for HD graphics) and a Wii (for alternative game play) for the cost of one PS3.Bottom line, Playstation will probably still win the next generation of gaming, but I don't think they'll be as far ahead of Microsoft this round, especially in North America. As for the Wii, I think they'll do much better than GC (as long as their innovative controller is smooth and responsive) because it will provide an alternative gaming experience and not a competing gaming experience.Isn't speculation fun? EDIT: According to IGN, Sony recently announced that it would ready 400,000 PS3s in North America and another 100,000 in Japan for the system's launch. Nintendo said it plans to ship 4 million Wii units worldwide by the end of the year.Um i said a video game producer...so um no not a video. it would be the guy who helped make the game for both systems Ok seriously gamecube sold better lately than x360 in japan, x360 will not dominate this next gen. Japan always loves sony and nintendo over MS.

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 4:45 pm

Quote, originally posted by northvibe Â»...so um no not a video...Sony promissed to have 27 playable titles at TGS starting September 22nd. Maybe we can all finally see the actual games instead of just the game producers (or someone claiming to be a game producer on a blog - j/k ).BTW - Neversoft had this to say about their next gen Tony Hawk game (Tony Hawk's Project 8) on the 360 and PS3: "...the visuals on both games will look nearly identical." - IGNI know that's one game by one game producer, but that's more of the sense of what I've read on the matter...regardless, we agree PS3 will likely win the next gen console war.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 2:36 am

I don't care what Nintendo does... it will always have that little kid feel to it. They got a couple Resident Evil games but the Playstation is what made RE the movie to survive to begin with and then when gamecube came out, RE shot us PS owners in the foot by abadoning us to Gamecube. But when ever someone says gamecube, or nintendo... I think Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda and a bunch of silly little kid games lol.Xbox and Playstation are IMO systems for serious gamers.

jwalcik · Post by **jwalcik** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:30 am

Quote, originally posted by Mavrik Â»I don't care what Nintendo does... it will always have that little kid feel to it. They got a couple Resident Evil games but the Playstation is what made RE the movie to survive to begin with and then when gamecube came out, RE shot us PS owners in the foot by abadoning us to Gamecube. But when ever someone says gamecube, or nintendo... I think Mario, Donkey Kong, Zelda and a bunch of silly little kid games lol.Xbox and Playstation are IMO systems for serious gamers.while i generally agree, i hesitate to call it a "kid" feel. i think it's just a more open, approachable feel. a few weeks ago a buddy of mine picked up the new madden for the 360. i hadn't touched madden in a year, so he gave me a refresher of the controls. then, every 15 seconds through three or four head to head games, he kept having to tell me that "one other function" or "oh yeah, you can do this..." stuff (selecting fake plays or calling hot routes, stuff that isn't 100% necessary but does improve your ability to control the game). at a certain level, that appeals to me. but at the same time, it also creates a much higher point of entry for someone entirely new to the game to step in and play. compare that to mario baseball. it's cartoonish and goofy. there's only five teams to choose from. but there are literally no more than three buttons used during the entire operation. and that includes stuff like having your short stop dive to snag a line drive. it's simplified to an ubsurd degree, but it's still a lot of fun (it actually reminds me a lot of the old RBI baseball games on the NES). there's definitely a market for that. no matter how much i'm enjoying playing through oblivion a second time, sometimes i prefer to sit down and play a game that doesn't require me to keep track of how heavy the items i might be carrying are. there's a lot to be said for games that just about anyone can sit down and play. then again, that's why i'm going to have both (the 360 and the wii).

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 3:50 am

oh no doubt sony let us down by no videos for us, except now there are some ingame ones, mgs4 specially looks awesome. but yea the word of a producer is meh but i do believe him i mean ps3's specs are insane.

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Fri Sep 15, 2006 5:36 am

Back to the thread topic...Quote, originally posted by drunkenmaxx Â»...is nintendo retarded, who would want that?Remember, the Wii won the Game Critics Awards for Best of Show and Best Hardware at E3 2006, so there must be something to Nintendo's innovation/design. Only time will tell if that translates to sales.

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 12:50 am

Well, now that both Sony and Wii are released, I've been reading many more negative reports on the PS3. Most (like this one) claim the PS3 falls too short on delivering on what they hyped.The Wii has sold many more units so far:Playstation 3 sales: 258,812Nintendo Wii Sales: 666,072...and ps3 numbers includes Japan (launched earlier in japan)

KaosStarr · Post by **KaosStarr** » Mon Nov 20, 2006 10:21 am

If I remember correctly a year ago when they posted all the specs out in a line, pretty much all of them came out equal. Personally I think they are all special in their own areas, Sony = RPGs, 360 = FPS, Nintendo = Classics/Weird.Take a gander at how it seems PS3 isn't selling so hot in general. Yeah the graphics look good thanks to HDMI, but other than that it doesn't seem to thrill me. Yeah graphics are great but I want something fun, which nothing has hit the stop for a long period of time.I personally play my Nintendo DS the most, because I have all my classic RPGs and games on it. Thats the reason I will say I'm looking at the Wii, because I can get the old games.Now, who really cares about blue-ray, or HDDVD, cuz last time I really checked I bought a video game system for video games not to watch movies. Thats sort of the reason the prices for each system has sky rocketed. But in the end I will own all 3.

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Tue Nov 21, 2006 1:39 am

ah yes, but availability is extremely limited on the PS3. we will see in a year...

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 2:45 am

Quote, originally posted by drunkenmaxx Â»ah yes, but availability is extremely limited on the PS3. we will see in a year...Lack of availability should equate to higher demand...I just watched two ebay auctions end this morning. A Wii, which was produced in much higher quantity, closed for more than a PS3. A $250 Wii, sold for $739.00 - while a $600 PS3 with 60 GB HD, sold for $700.00 . 196% profit vs 17% profit. It is crystal clear that the demand for the Wii is much higher than the PS3 this Christmas season...you are correct in stating "we will see in a year", but I think Sony will not be dominating this gaming gen like they did last gen.Here is another interesting note: while at Best Buy yesterday I saw a playable PS3 display and a non-playable Wii display with a video running. The playable PS3 had 3 teenagers and the Wii had 6 adults over age 40. Based on my empirical study of 1 store , Nintendo hit their target audience right where they wanted - the traditionally non gaming age demographic.

jwalcik · Post by **jwalcik** » Wed Dec 13, 2006 3:45 am

Quote, originally posted by silver_vibe Â»Here is another interesting note: while at Best Buy yesterday I saw a playable PS3 display and a non-playable Wii display with a video running. The playable PS3 had 3 teenagers and the Wii had 6 adults over age 40. Based on my empirical study of 1 store , Nintendo hit their target audience right where they wanted - the traditionally non gaming age demographic.the "non traditional gamers" are exactly who nintendo is targeting with the wii. now that i've had mine for a few weeks, i've got to say that it's an absolute blast. i had a group of friends over last night that generally have no interest in video games whatsoever, but their curiosity got the best of them and we ended up spending a couple of hours w/ wii boxing, wii bowling, and rayman. after playing zelda, i can't really see what sort of games wouldn't work with the control scheme. the system itself may lack the horsepower of the 360 or the ps3, so there may be some limitations there, but the controls definitely don't feel like they're just a gimmick.

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 10:01 pm

you guys are right. the wii will attract less serious gamers, due to it's price.

Kari · Post by **Kari** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 12:16 am

I have also seen ads recently on TV for a brain teaser game for the DS that are marketed directly at the "over 50" audience. I thought that was very interesting. So it appears that they are trying to capture more than just the teen and 20-something market with their products now...good move, IMHO. I am not a serious gamer, and I'm more attracted to Nintendo's products than anything.

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:10 am

I just got back from playing a Wii at the mall. I played Wii Tennis and Wii Bowling. The Tennis was a bit over simplified for my taste because you only control the swing...but I think it will be great for my 4 year old. The bowling really showed off the potential of the controller. It not only senses your swing, it will sense if you twist your wrist. I think Wii sports was a great game to bundle with the console because it get's many people to buy the system without having to shell out an additional $60 for a game, plus it really shows off the future potential of the controller. I'm sold...I'm buying one as soon as I can find one (amazing statment since Nintendo is making/selling 4 million units worldwide in a month). Since I have 3 kids, I'm also buying an additional full nunchaku and 2 additional remote controllers so my cost will be way above $250...but at least we can all play together without vegetating on the couch.

savedbyzero · Post by **savedbyzero** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 6:58 am

Quote, originally posted by ZubenElGenubi Â»You could almost mistake the controller for an ipodOr the remote for my ceiling fan...

KrazyB · Post by **KrazyB** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 11:27 am

I work in a receiving area and check in a lot of the new games for all consoles. Nintendo has some mature rated games this time around. You can also get a regular controller alot like the original NES. Crazy

Jahntassa · Post by **Jahntassa** » Thu Dec 21, 2006 2:48 pm

I think the Wii is the best controller to cover all ages.As for the comment about being dissed by 'serious gamers', I think you mean the ones that assume they're better than the rest of the world.

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:09 am

I still cannot get my hands on a Wii. I'm actually getting frustrated because I did not think retailers would still be selling out of SO MANY shipments almost 3 weeks after Christmas. I've been walking to Target during my lunch break 3X per week since Christmas to no avail. Best Buy, Game Crazy, Toys R Us, etc are all getting tired of me calling them. Wii's are still getting $100 over retail on eBay. On Thursday of last week the Target employee told me they had 6 in the day before and they were all gone by noon. Can we officially say Nintendo is not retarded?On the flip side, I think Sony really missed the mark with their PS3. It's Jan 11, and I have seen PS3s sitting on the shelves of every Target I've been to since 12/28. Sony needs to seriously consider dropping their price.Here is an interesting article on the matter: http://biz.gamedaily.com/indus...14934

Jahntassa · Post by **Jahntassa** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:14 am

I saw six 60gb models of the PS3 sitting in the local Best Buy. No Wii's to speak of. Plenty of 360's though.Funnily enough, I got in line for the Wii 1.5 hours before the BB opened on release day, and I was 33 out of 42 people to get a Wii that day.

ColonelPanic · Post by **ColonelPanic** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 10:04 pm

A guy at work told me about this site... But dang it, it's down for the moment. But you *can* see it cached on google in the meantime. Do a google search for "wii have a problem" and it should be the first one. The cached entry has some good pics!The real site, hopefully it comes back up soon, is http://www.wiihaveaproblem.comYou can see the damage done to property, life, and limb by this thing.

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Thu Jan 11, 2007 11:42 pm

Quote, originally posted by ColonelPanic Â»A guy at work told me about this site... But dang it, it's down for the moment. But you *can* see it cached on google in the meantime. Do a google search for "wii have a problem" and it should be the first one. The cached entry has some good pics!The real site, hopefully it comes back up soon, is http://www.wiihaveaproblem.comYou can see the damage done to property, life, and limb by this thing. It's up!Funny, when I started hearing complaints that people were accidentally throwing their controllers and hitting people/tvs, I thought that was a selling point for the system because it means people are getting into the game.

VibeGirl17 · Post by **VibeGirl17** » Fri Jan 12, 2007 9:45 pm

I played this system on Christmas. I played baseball, and it hurt so bad. My shoulders were sore for a few days, since you actually swing your arms to hit the bat and pitch!

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 4:09 pm

Lets see... Sony has put out 3 gaming systems so far... compared to Nintendo which puts out a new system every year it seems. This means the market is constantly being abandoned for something else when it comes to Nintendo. Hardly anyone talked about the Cube after a couple months and Nintendo Wii will follow suit. XBox and Sony will forever rule the serious market.I personally find the Wii pointless. I'd break the controller and I like serious gaming that I can sit there and just move my fingers. I still want a PS3 but with wanting a new car this year, two weddings and most likely a funeral to fly to... probably not going to happen.

mcgusto82 · Post by **mcgusto82** » Sat Jan 13, 2007 5:46 pm

I went to 2 Best buys yesterday afternoon. (i'm looking for a DVD player) In both, the WII was sold out, but they had over 6 PS3's for sale. I am definately going to get a WII. I'm tired of just sitting there and move my fingers.

ColonelPanic · Post by **ColonelPanic** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 6:35 pm

Holy crap, is this the first casualty caused by this thing? http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/6261509.stmI didn't know you could DIE from drinking too much water! Good god, why the hell am I still alive?

mcgusto82 · Post by **mcgusto82** » Sun Jan 14, 2007 8:06 pm

there was an episode of HOUSE where a kid was very ill because he drank too much water. Wow, i thought it was just all fiction. Next time they should offer gatorade. Plenty of electrolites there.

Psychobroker · Post by **Psychobroker** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 6:25 am

Quote, originally posted by Mavrik Â»Lets see... Sony has put out 3 gaming systems so far... compared to Nintendo which puts out a new system every year it seems.Ok, Sony Fanboy, here's a timeline of both Sony and Nintendo's US-released home video game systems:-Nintendo-1985 - Nintendo Entertainment System (NES) 1991 - Super Nintendo1996 - Nintendo 642001 - Nintendo Gamecube2007 - Nintendo Wii-Sony-1995 - Playstation 12000 - Playstation 22007 - Playstation 3Hmm, it seems like they're both running ~5 years between each new console release. Nintendo has two more up on Sony because they entered the market sooner (obviously). Don't forget that video game fans around the globe can thank Nintendo for the original coin-op Donkey Kong (circa 1981). Personally, I'd say Nintendo has done a fine job in allowing their products to mature. They arguably have the most popular ORIGNAL character lineup from Mario, Link/Zelda, and Donkey Kong to F-Zero and Metroid.Quote Â»This means the market is constantly being abandoned for something else when it comes to Nintendo. Hardly anyone talked about the Cube after a couple months and Nintendo Wii will follow suit. XBox and Sony will forever rule the serious market.haha, this comment is laughable! Sales figures from wikipedia http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/C...res_5: * Nintendo GameCube: 21.20 Million as of September 30, 2006 (Japan: 4.02, The Americas: 12.44, Other: 4.75)[6] * PlayStation 2: 111.25 Million shipped as of September 30, 2006 (Japan: 23.99, USA: 44.86, Europe: 42.40)[7] * Sega Dreamcast: 10.6 Million as of December 2004 (Japan: 2.30, Other: 8.30)[3] * Xbox: more than 24 Million as of May 10, 2006[8]Sure, the PS2 has outsold the 'Cube, but 21 million is nothing to sneeze at! As for abandoning a market, the Wii can play ALL Gamecube cames, in addition to Nintendo's Virtual Console, which will allow Wii owners to play ALL their favorite NES, SNES, TurboGrafx-16, and Sega Genesis games!! How awesome is that? I owned a T-16 (still do), and loved many of it's games. NEC just couldn't tackle Sega & Nintendo, even though it's system was technologically suprior.PS Nintendo released Twilight Princess on the 'Cube as well...how's that for support?Quote Â»I personally find the Wii pointless. I'd break the controller and I like serious gaming that I can sit there and just move my fingers. Thanks for your opinion. Ever heard of virtual reality? How about the fabled Holodeck from Star Treck. Yeah, the Wii brings consumers closer to that than ever before, so I'd say "pointless" is what it's far from being.I'm a huge fan of the PS1 (didn't buy the PS2), Xbox, Xbox 360, etc, but how does one say "serious gaming" = using only your thumbs and index fingers? Perhaps a broadening of your horizon is in order? I guess it's a matter of personal preference, but why diss it until you've tried it? For me, I've wanted a "virtual reality' gaming sytem since I was a kid playing Zelda for the NES, and the Wii seems to push the envelope even farther. I don't own one, but plan on picking one up once there's more stock. As for serious gaming, Zelda: The Twighlight Princess contains at least 80+ hours of play. Can you get any more serious (aside from MMORPGs)?Quote Â»I still want a PS3 but with wanting a new car this year, two weddings and most likely a funeral to fly to... probably not going to happen.You'll have one within the next two months

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Mon Jan 15, 2007 12:47 pm

Quote, originally posted by Psychobroker Â» * PlayStation 2: 111.25 Million shipped as of September 30, 2006 I wonder how many of those were sold to the same person. Two of my friends had to replace their PS2s because of bad DVD drives...as a result, one of them is waiting for the next round of PS3s (he doesn't trust the BluRay drives in this first release and $600 is too much to spend twice).

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 3:38 am

OK, that's it. I give up trying to get a Wii. I went to Best Buy this morning 15 minutes before they opened and there were well over 80 people in line. A 1/4 block away, there was well over 30 people waiting in line at GameStop. I did not bother trying to wait in line because both lines seemed way to long for me to actually get one, plus I have better things to do than wait in line for 45-60 min for a chance at one.I will get one when I happen to see one sitting on a shelf, but I will no longer try to find one.

mcgusto82 · Post by **mcgusto82** » Sun Jan 21, 2007 6:19 am

YAY!! i got a Wii. The best buys around here don't have any in stock. They claim they get them UPS and come in ramdonly. so they couldn't give me a date. Yesterday i went to Game Stop for a N64 a/v cable and out of curiosity i asked if they had any Wii's. They did. So i got one. Yay!!!! lolDidn't buy any games, but Wii sports is plenty fun. So fun my wife was playing it till she began sweating profusely!! lol Anyways.. i got Zelda (rental) today.

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Mon Jan 22, 2007 5:10 am

Quote, originally posted by mcgusto82 Â»YAY!! i got a Wii. The best buys around here don't have any in stock. They claim they get them UPS and come in ramdonly. so they couldn't give me a date. Yesterday i went to Game Stop for a N64 a/v cable and out of curiosity i asked if they had any Wii's. They did. So i got one. Yay!!!! lolDidn't buy any games, but Wii sports is plenty fun. So fun my wife was playing it till she began sweating profusely!! lol Anyways.. i got Zelda (rental) today. for you. for me.

silver_vibe · Post by **silver_vibe** » Thu Jan 25, 2007 6:13 am

Yeah! I finally got one! I got it at lunch 1 hour ago, but it was like a big secret at the store. They did not have 'em on display and the floor person I asked told me I had to talk to a specific employee to find out if they had them. I asked her and she said yes.I wanted 3 remotes with it but they are sold out - now I need to start hunting for the remotes.