Torsion beam broken

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:16 am

I left my car at my dealer this morning for oil changing and adjustment to the camber after our rough winter and road conditions here up north... now I just received a call from someone at my dealer. something's broken on the torsion beam, so the tolerence is now at .75, when the limit is at .20, so they can't adjust it. not sure what it means, but if they can't fix it, they gotta have to replace the hole thing, around 2k CND$. I was thinking to remove my spring after this summer, because I didn't like the ride this winter, but I might do it right now... I'll let you know what is exactly broken, and what can have made it. I hope my insurance will pay if I have to replace the hole thing!

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:21 am

maybe it's not the good name. the big steal piece between the two rear wheels, at the same place of the rear sway bar...

Post by **NSimkins** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:27 am

Quote, originally posted by Thewhite Â»maybe it's not the good name. the big steal piece between the two rear wheels, at the same place of the rear sway bar...Yeah, that's the right name.Quote, originally posted by pontiac.com Â»Suspension, front independent, rear torsion beam includes front and rear stabilizer barHow long have you had the springs installed? Could possibly be from the drop and/or the rough roads, that combining with the drop.Keep us updated.

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:30 am

I'm talking about this:I took the picture from a guy on CarDomain... it's probably caused by the rough roads AND the drop...edit: I have the spring since may 2k5, so not a year yet.

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 2:38 am

I just remember. this winter, I hit a 20 pounds fire extinguisher a truck lost on a road, and I dragged it for few feet, time for me to stop. If it's this, I'll find the guy and ask him to pay!

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:26 am

just received a call from my dealer. they have to replace it. beurk! now I really hope my insurance will pay!!

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:52 am

well another note is never lift the rear of the car from that... or let someone tow your car out of a ditch from that. They bend easy

jake75 · Post by **jake75** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:06 am

Why would that cost $2,000?

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 4:18 am

lame... got my car back from the dealer, I can still drive it, lucky that my tires are on their last miles so they can wear away (not sure if it's an appropriate expression)... now my file is in my insurrance's hand, I can't do anything from now but wait...

ColonelPanic · Post by **ColonelPanic** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:32 am

For some reason, this doesn't surprise me. I found early on how patheticly weak the ol' axle is back there. Back in the day when I would jack up FWD cars with solid axles, I had always raised them up in the center - but these were old 80's GM stuff with pretty heavy axles, not this cheap junk like we have. Nothing bad happened to those. But when I first bought this Vibe, I tried to do the same and watched that thing bend, heard it snap and pop as I attempted to raise the car. I let the jack down and found the location in front of the rear wheels to raise the car. It's made from some very weak metal! So it wouldn't surprise me if I broke mine too, but if it is, it isn't worth fixing. I hate to hear the news! I hope for your sake the insurance covers it too, that's quite a bit of dough!

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:37 am

Quote, originally posted by jake75 Â»Why would that cost $2,000? 1700$ for the torsion beam and 300$ for an other piece, don't know which one. that's what they told me. maybe I'll see the estimation the dealer will do for my insurance... and remember this is canadian currency.

POLO · Post by **POLO** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 3:05 pm

Sorry to hear that M.C.Hope something good will be done for you.

miked · Post by **miked** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 8:56 pm

Are you finally taking off your springs or are you keeping them for the summer?

ArcsVibe · Post by **ArcsVibe** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:02 pm

Man that sucks! Please keep us posted about this....now I am thinking about removing my springs

Raven · Post by **Raven** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:19 pm

If our wonderful province would fix the roads, we wouldn't have these problems. Around here it is so rough right now, even my truck is taking a beating.

ArcsVibe · Post by **ArcsVibe** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 9:59 pm

Tell me about it Sunny! My wife still curses me out everytime we hit a pothole.....

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 10:38 pm

Quote, originally posted by miked Â»Are you finally taking off your springs or are you keeping them for the summer?I don't know yet, will depend on the insurrance respond... are you interrested in mine?

miked · Post by **miked** » Thu Mar 30, 2006 11:20 pm

Nope not at all, I'm simply removing them. Even more, youor ride was lower than mine.I'm sorry to hear that you're having problem. Good luck with your insurrance, they are thief.They are stilling from you and it legal. You always pay and when you have a problem yoou need to prove your point and round after them to get payed.

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:12 am

I received a call from my insurrance today. They'll pay, good news! My dealer told me they will receive the new torsion beam somewhen next week. I'll still gotta have to pay 500$

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:16 am

500 is better than 2g's at least they will cover most of it what springs do you have?

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Tue Apr 04, 2006 10:17 am

Quote, originally posted by ArcsVibe Â»Tell me about it Sunny! My wife still curses me out everytime we hit a pothole.....Oh come now Sam and be honest... its not the pothole you notice... its when you hit a stretch of road left that causes the bump. All the roads there are just one big hole otherwise. I'm not worried about mine.

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 12:44 am

Quote, originally posted by northvibe Â»what springs do you have?SpringTech

Mrizzle05 · Post by **Mrizzle05** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 1:32 am

Hey... how do those ride? handle?they are pretty cheap... how i like it. and they are blue! i wanna drop mine but... i cant go to low or fiance says its a no go... How much of a drop is it?

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:59 am

my fiancÃ©e didn't like it at first, but she gets used to it after a year now. the handling is awesome, but I don't remember the feeling with the OEM, so it's hard to tell now. as for the drop, they claim 1.75 inches all around, but it's closer to 2" front and 1.5/1.75 at the rear. If you're not in a hurry, I'll sell mine in october, so you'll save even more.

Mrizzle05 · Post by **Mrizzle05** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:02 am

Yeah definately... just remember to keep me in mind.Around that time ill be able to pick them up too!!!thanks

ArcsVibe · Post by **ArcsVibe** » Wed Apr 05, 2006 9:39 am

Quote, originally posted by Mavrik Â»Oh come now Sam and be honest... its not the pothole you notice... its when you hit a stretch of road left that causes the bump. All the roads there are just one big hole otherwise. I'm not worried about mine.LOL Phil you crack me up!

Thewhite · Post by **Thewhite** » Wed Apr 19, 2006 10:26 am

fix has been done today. it cost me 250$ and my insurrance paid the rest. an alignment to 4 wheels was include, so tomorrow I'll be able to put my summer mags and tires. personnally I'm disappointed for the time took (more than 2 weeks) for all the processus, but there was nothing I could have done. Ben, I know concider a rear sway bar...

rubberman · Post by **rubberman** » Sun Apr 23, 2006 11:18 am

Just had my aligment done last week and they said the rear is out(right)-0.6mm(camber)and thrust toe angle .01mm..

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