Happy Anti-Valentine's Day

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:59 am

Just wanted to create a thread for the rest of us who have nothing to celebrate on this holiday. I've gotten so sick of all the whining I've heard all throughout the day. I can't even turn on the TV or the radio and have peace because of all the sappy shows and stupid people calling in to gripe about some stupid thing that their significant other did or didn't do for them lately. I'd like to tell them all collectively to shut the hell up and at least be appreciative of the fact that they HAVE someone to complain about. Maybe they should think about everyone else who has to suffer through this day (or week or month, etc.) and just be happy that they don't have to suffer too. It's no wonder that this is statistically one of the days of the year when the most suicides occur. I can see why. I've started a new diet that prohibits alcohol during the first stages and I'm doing pretty well with it so far so it's not worth bailing on the diet just to help me sleep through the rest of this dreaded day or I'd be asleep already.In case anyone can't tell, yes I'm pretty bitter, somewhat angry, and quite miserable. But most of all, I do not want anyone to feel sorry for me, I hate that. And I don't want to hear any more phoney but well-intended sappy stuff like "Oh, you'll find someone out there" or "the right person will come along". Horse puckey I say. It's already been 28 years, I'll be long dead before any of that comes true. I sure hope I'm wrong on that one, but I am a realist afterall.So please, no sappy BS attempts to try to cheer up people like me in replies to this thread, it's borderline patronizing and we know it, we just respond kindly because I think we just don't want to expend the effort to tell some well-intentioned do-gooder to go stuff it where the sun don't shine. If there is anyone else out there who dreads this day, even if just for this year, as much as I do, please share your thoughts. It's our day to tell the world to go take a flying leap, so have at it.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:39 am

I was 25 before celebrating my first valentinesSo yeah I know were your coming from. I'd get upset with people complaining about someone they were with when at least they had someone. Or people saying how fun it was to be single and how they wished they were again. It certainly wasn't fun.Well I won't feel sorry for you or spout off some "someone will come along for ya" since you don't want none of that.But your not alone and others including myself have gone through what you are right now. Keep your chin up and you could always buy something for the Vibe. She'll love ya for it.

millster · Post by **millster** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:48 am

Here, here Stang! Happy Anti-Valentine's Day to you as well! Granted that I've only gone 25 years with limited success so far, I'm thinking I'll easily make it to 30. I just want to know one thing. Where are all these girls who are supposedly looking for a nice guy? I mean, I'm hardly ugly. God knows I'm not a model either, but really. Now I've said all of this knowing that I do actually have a date (first one in well over a year) this Friday that has potential so who knows. Might just have to eat my words.Alright... that's the extent of public insight into my life. Hope everyone enjoyed. Valentine's Day just strikes me as a day to mock those of us with no success in love.

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:52 am

Well thank you Phil for having the good sense to be truly understanding and for complying with my modest requests. I really know that people mean well, but really it only makes it worse.I guess I should have been a little more clear on something before. I've had to hate Valentine's again this year after a 4 year hiatus from hating it. I don't know if it is worse to have to hate this again or to just have hated it all along and been alone even for those 4 years too. Every time I have to see another stupid little red heart decoration somewhere it's just like rubbing salt in an open wound. The major downside to being a big-hearted person is that things can hurt a lot more.But alas, back to your regularly scheduled grunge band attitude. Kiss off world!!!

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:11 am

Quote, originally posted by millster Â»Here, here Stang! Happy Anti-Valentine's Day to you as well! Thank you, Sir Millster.Quote, originally posted by millster Â»Now I've said all of this knowing that I do actually have a date (first one in well over a year) this Friday that has potential so who knows. Might just have to eat my words.I truly wish you the best of luck on your date this evening. I don't want the misfortune I have to be shared with anyone, so I don't want to ruin the day for others, I just wish that it wasn't ruined for me. If you should find youself leaving Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club, my heartfelt congratulations to you. But never forget those less fortunate and you'll always appreciate what you've got. I think that more people should see things that way.Quote, originally posted by millster Â»I just want to know one thing. Where are all these girls who are supposedly looking for a nice guy? I mean, I'm hardly ugly. God knows I'm not a model either, but really. Well Amen and mega-dittos to that! I think that it's a big scam. I see and hear that from women all the time, but then they choose to be with the worst losers and I can't help but think to myself "what the hell am I doing so wrong?" So based on the evidence I see, what women say they want is all a bunch of B.S. "Oh I want a guy who is smart, funny, attractive, blah blah blah" but then they never go for guys like that. Then all you hear is "men suck blah blah blah". Well, yeah, a lot of men suck, but so do a lot of women. So why don't all the people that just suck get together since they already have so much in common and let all the nice people get together and enjoy life? Now this is starting to sound like a philosophy class so I'll stop there. I guess it is just another one of those questions to which there is no logical answer.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:15 am

those "Oh I'm just looking for a nice guy" are lying through their teeth lol. I don't know how many times I heard that and you can all agree... those girls ended up with the biggest a-holes you could find. Of course they would then whine and complain to the nice guy right before them about how much their relationship sucked. But thats life.

millster · Post by **millster** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:19 am

Haha. Philosphy class is fun though. Well, should I succeed in leaving the club, the last thing I would ever do is forget where I came from. We'll see, but thanks for the well wishes.For the time being though, I'll just hang out here in the "what in the world could possibly be wrong with me" club where I belong. At least it's not a lonely club, huh?

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:28 am

Quote, originally posted by millster Â»Haha. Philosphy class is fun though. Agreed. Gotta like it when technically there's no wrong answer. So with that, welcome all to GenVibe Philosopy class 101. Today's topic for discussion will be "why do some people feel that Valentine's Day sucks?" lol. Ah, thank you millster, that was the first time I got to laugh all day today.Quote, originally posted by millster Â»For the time being though, I'll just hang out here in the "what in the world could possibly be wrong with me" club where I belong. At least it's not a lonely club, huh? Nor is it one that is lacking intelligent, attractive, and humorous members!

vibebob · Post by **vibebob** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:39 am

hum bugbah (bah humbug already taken by a holiday)unhappy anti-valentines day to you too. I don't like the "everyone" is happy and all is well day.

northvibe · Post by **northvibe** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:59 am

im with ya, all i did though today was school and work.....so i havent even had time to think of v-day...which helps a ton! oh...its 9pm..library time see whens v-day? didnt know there was one

Toasted7 · Post by **Toasted7** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:14 am

Being a "nice guy" never pays off... sucks, but it's true.

viberationz · Post by **viberationz** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:17 am

I can relate... I've never had a Valentines... So with that I hate Valentines Day... It never even occured to me that it was Valentines Day. I'm a girl and I've said the phrase "All I want is a nice guy" and YES I always end up with the biggest A-HOLES!! It's so difficult to find a guy under 30 who is a KEEPER. Everyone I come in contact with is a huge PLAYER.

millster · Post by **millster** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:32 am

Well believe me, there are guys under 30 who know what's what. We DO exist. I'm sorry to hear about what happened with your last relationship, but it definitely sounds as though it's better that it ended. I can't stand those kind of men. They give the rest of us a terrible image.At any rate, though I know what you mean about your dog. My little girl is my best friend too. She's just like my kid. Spoiled to death too!

viberationz · Post by **viberationz** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:39 am

When you say your little girl - I'm suspecting you mean your dog also... But I totally relate my dog is my baby - and she get's treated just like one. She's spoiled rotten and I don't know what my life would be like without her. Where are these guys you speak of? I know I said I gave up in looking and trying, I guess I'm still curious.

millster · Post by **millster** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:10 pm

Yeah, when I say "little girl" I mean my dog. Blanca. A soon-to-be 1 year old Jack Russell Terrier.As for where those guys are, I can't speak for your area. But I know a few in other areas. A few of them are members here. We're not just imaginary.

ColonelPanic · Post by **ColonelPanic** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:18 pm

Quote, originally posted by Stang2Vibe Â»And I don't want to hear any more phoney but well-intended sappy stuff like "Oh, you'll find someone out there" or "the right person will come along". Oh now, why would someone say that? You'll never find anybody! You'll live your life all alone in a crappy shack out in the woods somewhere with lots of cats. You won't have anything to do other than sit around talking to yourself and maybe the occasional yelling at the television. You won't have any friends other than, well, the cats! hehehe

kostby · Post by **kostby** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 1:44 pm

Go ahead, Stang2Vibe. Say it with me, "(P00P) on everyone and everything." There.Feel better now?Good.

rebbierae · Post by **rebbierae** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:28 pm

Well, just thought I'd weigh in as a GIRL. First off, at the risk of sounding like a crazy stalker--Millster, you are the only one I've seen a picture of and you are FAR from ugly. Good thing I'm here in South Dakota and no one can see me blush, but after seeing your picture I remember thinking, "Damn, and he lives way out west." You are one of the nicest guys on genvibe.com--you've always been helpful, kind, and funny--what more could a girl want? Who knows what us women think or want. My friend asked me yesterday if I believed in soul mates. How the heck do I know? I mean, is there just one person out there for each of us? Who knows. And how do we know when we've found them? I dated a guy for years and I thought he was The One. I was heartbroken when he broke it off with me. Thought I'd never get over it. But now I'm with someone I'm MUCH more compatible with--he truly feels like my 'soul mate'. But if something were to go sour with that.....will there be someone even better out there for me? Or was he 'It'? How do we know these things? I've never been a fan of VDay either. Most people here at work know that it's just a stupid holiday, in my eyes. I work at the front desk at my company, so all day the flower delivery people come in and bring crap, and I have to call people to come get it. I've NEVER liked this Hallmark-propelled day, at all. And I HAVE a boyfriend, so it's not just that I'm bitter about love and all that. Yesterday my boyfriend brought me a Starbucks treat in the morning, and that was all I heard from him. A few people thought that was lame, but did I expect something from him just because Hallmark and the flower sellers need a boost this time of year? NO. A few weeks ago he brought me flowers 'just because' he thought I deserved them. And he went in to the cooler with the gal and picked only the ones he knew I'd like. To me that was FAR more thoughtful than the obligatory roses on the 14th. And he paid for and had installed my iPod2car unit that I will now be able to use forever--my friends who got roses? They will be dead in 3 days. Sorry...guess I'm done ranting now too.

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:36 pm

next thing you know stang, you'll be rollin' doobies in a van down by the river.

viberationz · Post by **viberationz** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:03 am

Girl you were happy with the Vibe Goodies - I'm the same way. Hell... to find guy who would buy you stuff for your car instead of roses - you found yourself a KEEPER! He He...

rebbierae · Post by **rebbierae** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:47 am

I know! He's a good one! Last year for Christmas when my car was fairly new to me, he tinted my windows for me. He's forever looking on ebay for a new rim for me since I curbed mine a couple months ago and even though you can hardly see it, he KNOWS it bothers the heck out of me.

Charlievibe · Post by **Charlievibe** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:43 am

I didn't see this until this morning, but I have to weigh in. First of all some (not all) of the guys are saying that there are no girls who sincerely want a good guy. I sincerely do want a nice guy. However, every single time I have thought I have found one, he turns into a scum sucking pig. In my defense, I don't stay with him when I discover he is a pig, I run away from him like the wind. I have given up finding a nice guy. I really don't know where you find the nice guys. It seems stalkerish to troll neighborhoods looking for them and in my experience, the nice guys really don't go to the bars. I've tried the age old grocery store, and that doesn't seem to work. I just don't know where to find tham and have given up. As for Valentine's Day, one of my last bf killed it for me. He called me at 11:45pm (he worked until 11:30pm) on Valentine's Day to inform me that he was going out to the bars with his buddies. I asked him if he was coming over after that so I could give him his Valentine's Day card and gift - he told me that was a useless holiday for freaks. Yeah, that freak was sent packing.Oh, and Stang, you won't hear me telling you that there is someone out there for you and all of the other crud that goes with that mush!!

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:44 am

would anyone in this thread like a tissue?

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:46 am

Flowerss die, cards become faded and lost... give or do things that last longer. Like car stuff... dvds... cds... useful things.And your right charlievibe. Nice guys don't usually go to bars looking for girls. I know I didn't go to bars looking for girls... most there had gone home with a different guy every weekend and I didn't want that. I didn't look at the grocery store either... online seems to be the place.

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:48 am

Quote, originally posted by Mavrik Â»And your right charlievibe. Nice guys don't usually go to bars looking for girls. I know I didn't go to bars looking for girls... most there had gone home with a different guy every weekend and I didn't want that. I didn't look at the grocery store either... I second that. The occasional times that I do go to a bar I'm usually there with a couple of my buddies, we have some wings and a beer or two (not recently because of the diet and all, but anyways), and we stay for about an hour and then leave. I don't really go to dive bars either, usually some place with a decent restaurant attached. It's the clubs that scare me. That's where I find that the "players" and the passed around pieces of trash seem to always hang out. I'd probably rather kiss the mop they use to clean the bathroom floors with instead of most of the women there; the mop has got to be more sanitary.Quote, originally posted by Mavrik Â»online seems to be the place. Yeah, I keep hearing this but the rest of the world still treats it as weird. If people you know find out that you've got a profile on an online dating service thingy, then it's like you're some kind of wierdo and a general failure. My uncle met his most recent wife online; they got married about a year ago and seem to be generally happy, but the rest of my family sees it as some kind of wierd thing. My cousins even joke with me about it sometimes. Granted, my uncle and his new wife are kinda wierd anyway, but there still seems to be a major stigma attached with online dating.

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:58 am

Quote, originally posted by kostby Â»Go ahead, Stang2Vibe. Say it with me, "(P00P) on everyone and everything." There.Feel better now?Good.Only makes me feel better for about 3 seconds then I go back to being angry again. I just wish I could go back to sleep and make the whole world go away.

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:02 am

Quote, originally posted by drunkenvibe Â»next thing you know stang, you'll be rollin' doobies in a van down by the river. heh. funny, but not very likely. Besides, Chris Farley already tried that gig and look what it got him.

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:44 am

Screw what the world thinks about online dating. Its getting more and more popular with some very good places to. Heck look at me. A so far so good internet dating success story. You would be surprised how many people internet meet and then date in rl. Lots more then your lead to believe because they all have the same idea you do. That its just "weird" lol. Lots of secret online daters out there and probably ms right to.

Kari · Post by **Kari** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:10 am

Quote, originally posted by Mavrik Â»Screw what the world thinks about online dating. Its getting more and more popular with some very good places to. Heck look at me. A so far so good internet dating success story. You would be surprised how many people internet meet and then date in rl. Lots more then your lead to believe because they all have the same idea you do. That its just "weird" lol. Lots of secret online daters out there and probably ms right to. I agree that meeting one's soulmate online is very possible and that the internet opens up a world of possibilities, but I also agree that the majority of people still think it's weird. I know, I know, screw what they think, but it's almost like people discount your relationship or make you feel very small when they find out you met online. So I just tell people I met James at a car club meet. Which I did. I just don't tell them the online portion. And when I do tell people we met online, they either go "Ooooooh" like "You're one of *them* huh?" or else they assume we met on Yahoo personals or something. We were staying at a bed and breakfast back in November and the other couple who was there was asking us at breakfast how we met and we just said online, and she said, "Oh, well see, that does work sometimes, huh!" Yet another person who assumed it was through an online personals site. But yeah, I think a lot of people don't admit that they met someone online...most of the time I don't tell strangers the online part of the story, just to avoid the "general weirdness" reaction. I'm kind of hoping that reaction is going to fade as more and more people meet online though.If it wasn't for the internet (and this site) I would never have met my soulmate. So that makes the internet IMHO a pretty good way to find "that special someone".

Mavrik · Post by **Mavrik** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:36 am

Quote, originally posted by Kari Â»I agree that meeting one's soulmate online is very possible and that the internet opens up a world of possibilities, but I also agree that the majority of people still think it's weird. I know, I know, screw what they think, but it's almost like people discount your relationship or make you feel very small when they find out you met online. So I just tell people I met James at a car club meet. Which I did. I just don't tell them the online portion. Same for Hope and I, car club. But that then leads to... "But she's in alaska and your were not so... huh???"

Sputnik · Post by **Sputnik** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:42 am

I met my bf online almost 8 years ago.

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:37 pm

Well it certainly seems that you guys (and gals) know exactly what I mean about the "internet dating stigma". I personally think it's a great idea because people can meet up and find out some basic info about each other without having to waste a lot of time and money on the traditional dating path. You can exchange emails or read posts or profiles of someone that you may be interested in and do so around whatever your schedule is like. It probably becomes pretty obvious if the person you are considering is someone you would potentially be interested in forming a relationship with before having a lot invested. I guess that for most people this allows them to examine a greater number of potential mates in a smaller amount of time and in more depth than through traditional dating, and therefore they can find a more satisfying relationship without all the traditional hassle.I don't know about anyone else, but I hate traditional dating. In my fairly limited experience I've found that it's more like conducting a job interview, except that the interview has to be mutual. That leads to it's own difficulties. One of the common dating tips I always see is to show genuine interest in the other person, to ask them about themselves and their interests and to not talk about yourself. Well if you're both doing that, then nobody will find out anything about the other person. That would also make for completely useless conversation: "what do you like to do in your free time?" "well, let's not focus too much on me, what do you like to do in your free time?" "well I don't want to talk to much about myself here, what do you like to spend your free time on?". Holy crap, I'd rip my hair out! So how is that supposed to work? I understand that you don't want to sit there and brag about how great you are, etc., but come on, you've gotta give up a little info about yourself here and there.My experiences with online dating have been far less than eventful. I think of it more like getting into your car and then not being able to find the keys. I've searched on several sites (ones that let you search without joining) and I've been very disappointed. I have the added complexity of being a practicing Christian and requiring the same of a potential mate. So try a Christian online dating site, right? Well it wouldn't let me join because I didn't make enough money. How stupid is that? I don't qualify to have a Christian mate because I don't meet a minimum income standard? I'm still baffled on that one. I'd like to ask the site creators how much they think that Christ's annual income was and, if adjusted for today's dollar, would He make enough to qualify? Morons. Another site had me fill out an hour long profile questionnaire and gladly gave me back my results. It told me that there was nobody in their database that would make a good match and basically told me that less than 1% of all women in the entire database were as conservative as me. So now I'm too poor to date a Christian and too conservative to date anyone else. Well that sucks, but considering that Charlie Brown has better general luck than I do it doesn't surprise me. (I'm not embarassed by any of this, that's why I have no problems sharing. Feel free to laugh at how ridiculous this is because I have to do the same or I'd go insane.) So I listen pretty regularly to the Sean Hannity radio program and Sean has a thing on his webpage where politically conservative singles can post a profile and browse profiles for free (they call it "Hannidate"). I've heard him talk about it for a little while now so yesterday I figured, what the hey, it can't get any worse by checking it out. So I did. No single ladies at all between the ages of 18 and 27 within 500 miles of me. The nearest one that was registered was 600+ miles from me somewhere in Virginia (though I must say that I kinda wish that I lived in Virginia because she was quite cute). But anyway, such is my luck with online dating sites. (shrug)

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Wed Feb 15, 2006 1:51 pm

Quote, originally posted by silverawd26 Â»Brandon,Can you break away this summer? Culd get Rich and a few other people together and do some fishing or something like we talked about before. I would absolutely love to. I'm currently looking for another job (I have to find something before spring) and my business has really been growing lately, so barring any major complications from either of those I'd live to hang out for a few days with you and Rich. My offer to bring along my jet-ski for any lake adventures is still on the table too .Hmm, that reminds me, I guess I should have took a few pics of me on my jet-ski in the summer. Might make me a little more appealing to the ladies. Any thoughts from GenVibe's friendly females on that one? Yea or nay? I wouldn't want to come across the wrong way with it, but it is an activity that I greatly enjoy and I go riding every chance I get.

ToolGuy · Post by **ToolGuy** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:00 am

Happy Festivus instead!

Kari · Post by **Kari** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:19 am

That's really strange that you would have to make a minimum income to be able to sign up for a Christian dating service...what an odd question to base membership on. Have you tried just joining a Christian online community, like a message board or something? Maybe one that isn't just based on dating or singles, but there are bound to be some singles there and hey you might meet a nice girl that way. Anyhow, I think online dating is also better because you get to know the person for who they truly are *first*, rather than making your first impression based solely on how they look or how they acted in your first meeting. Personally I don't see why people think meeting people online is so crazy or weird or dangerous -- isn't it more dangerous, crazy, and weird to go out with somebody that you barely know who you ran into in a coffee shop or something and were physically attracted to, than it is to go out with somebody who you've been talking to for a few months already even if you haven't met in person?

rebbierae · Post by **rebbierae** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 1:46 am

I agree with Kari. I have had a BAD experience with the online thing, so I would be hesitant to do it again, but only because of that one person. I don't know about you guys, but I feel much more comfortable (at first) in this sort of setting--I feel more free to be "myself" in a chat room or via email--like Kari said, you feel like you can get to know the person more than worrying so much about their looks, YOUR looks, etc. And I think you may have better luck on a site like this--rather than strictly a DATING site. Find a site like this where you can talk to people who have similar interests and just chat--not necessarily a dating site where that's ALL that people are looking for. Sort of a variation on the "You find someone as soon as you stop looking" theme. If you are concentrating too hard on finding someone, it's hard to see straight sometimes. But you'd be surprised if you start to talk to someone, NOT really having that in mind--you could all the sudden realize, "Hey, I think I like this person." You are more yourself if you aren't trying to sell yourself I think. I doubt any of this makes sense--I'm just typing it all as it's falling out of my brain. Stang, as a female, I think the jet ski pics idea is a good one--something you LOVE doing, something you are really in to, something that makes you happy--they see you at your best!

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:51 am

No, I think what you said makes perfect sense. I think that's part of the current appeal to online dating. And thank you for your thoughts and feedback.Kari--Thank you for your thoughts also. I might try that. The minimum income requirement of that dating site was accompanied by a minimum age requirement of 25 also. They claim that they are trying to provide their members with a pool of safe, viable life partners by imposing those requirements. But that income requirement really disturbs me too. It's basically telling people that they believe that unless you earn a minimum of "X" amount of $ per year, you're not worthy of being married or having a date and that you're generally a dangerous failure. I don't know what Bible they use, but I've never found such a priciple in any Bible I've read or church that I've attended. What's even more strange is that the income requirement they impose exceeds the average income of SW Pennsylvania residents by about $12,000. Doesn't make much sense.Anyways, a friend of mine is trying to fix me up with a girl that his wife works with. He's holding a surprise birthday party for his wife this weekend (limo coming to his house and all) and he invited me to go to dinner with them and some of their friends, and he was inviting this girl from his wife's office so I could meet her. So far all I know is that she's 24, rather attractive, fairly tall, blonde, smart, doesn't smoke, only drinks socially, and goes to church with her family. Sounds very good so far. As long as my friend's idea of cute and attractive isn't sasquatch and everything else holds true, I might be in luck (for once).Probably my biggest fear with meeting someone right now is the risk of meeting a gold-digger. I just had an in-depth meeting with one of my senior business associates who is my personal business mentor and we were discussing the recent growth explosion that my business experienced. If I can continue to do my part and have my business experience proper growth over the next few months, I was just informed 2 evenings ago that it is a very good possibility that I will be able to permanently retire from work as soon as the end of this year. I was going over some numbers and other things on my own yesterday, and the numbers do add up and work out to support this. While that is totally awesome for me personally, it brings about this dating problem. I don't want to be attractive to women just because I've worked to achieve a certain income and lifestyle. I find that completely repulsive. If a woman can't love me and appreciate me for who I am, what I do for her, and what I do for others, then she is not qualified to be my life partner. I would much rather meet someone soon who has no clue how I'm building my business or exactly what it is but who sticks with me anyway and helps me build this the rest of the way. I would know that that person believes in me and appreciates who I am and what I'm doing, and is not just looking for a free ticket aboard the gravy train.I'm speaking in general terms here, not with any specifics to the girl that I'll probably meet this weekend. She doesn't know anything about me; I don't think my friend even told her anything or that someone was going to be there for her to meet. Knowing what he told me about her background (including things that I didn't include in this post), I feel safe to say that she's at rather low risk of being a gold-digger from what I know so far. If it works out, that would be awesome, but if not, that's ok too. I'd rather be in search of the right person than stuck with the wrong one.

rebbierae · Post by **rebbierae** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 4:40 am

Well, just as you don't want women to see ALL men as no-good worthless scumsuckers, I have to say that all women aren't blood-sucking gold-digging b*tches. Some of us too are just looking for nice men who don't want a rich, stupid Playboy model, but for someone to love us for who we are on the inside, which makes our outside more beautiful. Unfortunately there are bad people in the world--both male AND female--who only think of themselves. And Im sure that most of us feel that we've dated all of those people, but most of us women are just like you men--just looking for the right person in the world.

Charlievibe · Post by **Charlievibe** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 6:33 am

Quote, originally posted by rebbierae Â»Well, just as you don't want women to see ALL men as no-good worthless scumsuckers, I have to say that all women aren't blood-sucking gold-digging b*tches. Some of us too are just looking for nice men who don't want a rich, stupid Playboy model, but for someone to love us for who we are on the inside, which makes our outside more beautiful. Unfortunately there are bad people in the world--both male AND female--who only think of themselves. And Im sure that most of us feel that we've dated all of those people, but most of us women are just like you men--just looking for the right person in the world. Extremely well put. One of the guys here asked me on Valentine's what I thought was the best gift for a man to give a woman. I told him that for me it is for the man to do something for me like clean the house and then make dinner at home. He about fell down and said that he thought all women wanted jewelry and expensive stuff. I told him basically what you said, and I quote you that "all women aren't blood-sucking gold-digging b*tches."

drunkenmaxx · Post by **drunkenmaxx** » Thu Feb 16, 2006 11:39 pm

Quote, originally posted by Charlievibe Â» I told him that for me it is for the man to do something for me like clean the house and then make dinner at home. ah, see i do that for drunkengirlfriend all the time, for no reason at all. and she met me in a bar!(i also got her some decent jewelry for V-day)don't rule out bars completely, normal people do go there.

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Mon Feb 20, 2006 9:29 am

I know that all women aren't gold-digging, horrible, etc.; I guess that I've just had limited exposure to single young ladies who aren't either classless and trashy or the gold-digging, "I'm too good for the world" types. Seems that the majority of women that I've been around in school or have known through my various jobs fit into one of those categories. The few who didn't fit those descriptions that I got to know I made great friends with, but that was all I felt toward them. Even though several of them were attractive, I never felt any romantic inclinations toward them and was happy to just be friends.Well anyway, I went out with the group on Saturday night and I guess things went pretty well. We had the limo for the whole night and my friend's wife chose to do some bar and club hopping with us for her birthday, so it was kinda fun. I got to meet the girl they were trying to fix me up with, but we really didn't get to talk much. The bars and clubs were extremely crowded and very loud, and I'm not one who is much for dancing anyway, especially not with someone I don't even know. So the atmosphere was much less than ideal for trying to make a date out of it. One of the married guys in our group kinda knew this girl a little bit and was talking to her in the limo about me at some point when I was well out of earshot. At the one club, she left with some of the other ladies to go to the restroom and this guy got pretty hammered and started telling me that he found out that our friends were trying to fix me up with this girl and that he had been talking to her in the limo and she said she liked me. She said pretty much the same thing to my friend's wife and it got back to me, so I guess things went pretty well. My friend and his wife want to invite her out to dinner sometime soon so we can double date. I'm all for that, I think it would be much better for me to get to know her a little in a bit calmer, quieter atmosphere where we can all sit down and talk a little and actually be able to hear each other.After I found out that she liked me, I figured I could let loose a little bit and have some fun. I started picking on my friend a bit in the limo and had everyone cracking up. They told me that I had to come out with them again next time they did something like this, so I guess I was entertaining. I'm going to hang out with my friend for a while tonight, so I might set up our next meeting while we're hanging out.Hey Millster, I almost forgot to ask how things went for you on your Anti-Valentines Day date. Hope all went well for you.

greenfire · Post by **greenfire** » Tue Feb 21, 2006 8:33 am

Hi people, I haven't posted on here in ages, but I saw this thread and wanted to add myself to the ant-valentine day crowd. I agree with many of the things that have been said above. The older you get the more difficult it becomes Every relationship seems to end with something being out of my control. I am 33, consider my self a nice guy, along with other pluses... but sheesh you think something would work out already.

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:04 pm

Well even though you were a Matrix owner, and now a former one at that, I still welcome you gladly to Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club. Like the others, I hope your stay is not too long.Funny how the Happy Valentine's Day thread got about 4 posts total and the Anti-Valentine's Day thread has carried on over 3 pages already. Actually, that's kinda sad.

viberationz · Post by **viberationz** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:33 pm

there was a happy valentines day thread?

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Wed Feb 22, 2006 2:43 pm

lol. Yes, there was. But if you blinked, you probably missed it.It's right here-----> http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=21372

millster · Post by **millster** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:14 am

In honor of the current day and in order to provide those of us "lonely" folk a place to go instead of here... http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=27148 (No offense to BlueCrush )I command this thread to RISE! Let the Anti-Valentine's Day crowd join in a collective "ugh".

BlueCrush · Post by **BlueCrush** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:22 am

Quote, originally posted by millster Â»In honor of the current day and in order to provide those of us "lonely" folk a place to go instead of here... http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=27148 (No offense to BlueCrush )Non taken. lol.

Vibr8tr · Post by **Vibr8tr** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:30 am

I have a question.... if we have someone, and we are fine with them, but just hate this Day, can we post here. The way I see it, there are alot of days to "celebrate how you feel for someone"... I.E. Thier Birthday, Thanksgiving, aniversuries (god knows ther are enough of those), christmas.... all of those and more are holidays that you are around your "loved one" and act all romantic.... so why have another day that I am an insencitive jerk for not going out and spending the little money we have on something like candy and jewelry? I love my wife to death, and don't have complaints to her.... just the fact that someone out there thinks people like me have endless amounts of money to spend on a new holiday every month.....opps.... was that a rant,..... my bad

millster · Post by **millster** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:43 am

No, no. Rant away if you like. And yes, you're welcome to post here single or otherwise if the day just annoys you. I can't say I really hate it or am bothered by it yet. I've never had a real Valentine's Day experience so that's why I'm bitter about it.

Vibr8tr · Post by **Vibr8tr** » Wed Feb 14, 2007 12:50 am

Thank you for allowing it.... I guess I just don't see the point. If you are going to show someone how you feel about them, it should be special, and personal.... not just get them something that every one else gets on a day that every one else gets it. It's like someone givnig my a candy cane on Christmas, it's nice of them, but I won't remember about it 2 minutes after.... but if someone handed me a candy cane on Jan. 28th.... I would think more about it, think if there was a reason, or what.Same with Valentines day. If I give her flowers tonight she will thank me and when we go to bed she won't think twice about it. But if I Give her flowers and a nice note on June 7th.... she would run and call all her friends and talk about how special and sweet it was.