Which CAI?

Pawel · Post by **Pawel** » Thu Feb 06, 2003 10:26 pm

Which CAI would you guys recommend? AEM or Injen? I'm looking for more low & mid end gains.Thanks in advence.

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Thu Feb 06, 2003 11:40 pm

From the dyno tests, I would say that the AEM has an advantage. Here is a thread that you might want to take a look at: http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=1116

DopeVibeGT · Post by **DopeVibeGT** » Fri Feb 07, 2003 6:25 am

You will most likely get different answers by what the person has. I love my Injen, and for the GT, it matches it's power band. So, it's really up to what name brand you like better and what one you can get cheaper.

Pawel · Post by **Pawel** » Fri Feb 07, 2003 10:20 pm

Fo what you are aying is that Injen is sligtly better for GT then AEM?

DopeVibeGT · Post by **DopeVibeGT** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 5:20 am

Judging by the dyno someone posted, yeah. The GT makes it's power higher up, after 6000 RPM's. This is when the Injen seems to give the most 'boost'.

Flip-Side · Post by **Flip-Side** » Sat Feb 08, 2003 1:55 pm

quote:Judging by the dyno someone posted, yeah. The GT makes it's power higher up, after 6000 RPM's. This is when the Injen seems to give the most 'boost'.The AEM makes more low end power, and the Injen give the best high end power. Here is the dyno that show you are right. http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id ... 1548#21548

Lorin · Post by **Lorin** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 2:02 am

Those charts indicate a 4-5 ft-lb gain for the AEM over the Injen at RPM But from what I'm hearing, it sounds like Injen is the better quality product, easier to install, looks better, higher quality materials, etcMaybe I'm splitting hairs here, and its really a toss-up between the two...

DopeVibeGT · Post by **DopeVibeGT** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 3:58 am

You also have to look at when you really need that power. I'm not even going to try and tow anything with a car that only has 130 or so torque, so I dont need low end power. The reason I got the GT is so when I do need the power, like getting on the freeway from a dead stop or the occational drag race, it's there, and thats when I need the extra 12 ponies and 7 ft pounds of torque. Otherwise, under normal, 'no need to get going fast', driving, I barely rev above 5K, and dont need the power for normal cruising. I dont know about AED's quality, but it cant be that behind Injens. (?)

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Sun Feb 09, 2003 10:16 pm

AARRGH!!! I don't know which CAI to go with either!!! I will have to keep reading and banging my head against my desk. Maybe I will have to "pin the CAI on the Vibe" or something like that to make my choice.

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 12:13 am

Read this post and then make your decision.http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=1116 AEM seems to work better for the 2ZZ-GE engine and INJEN seems to work better for the 1ZZ-FE engines.

savedbyzero · Post by **savedbyzero** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 1:29 am

Go for the cheapest and save the money for something else. I went with AEM because I got it for $200 from adventon.com. Now, either a lightened flywheel or S-AFC is in my future!

Pawel · Post by **Pawel** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 1:41 am

AARRGH!!! I don't know which CAI to go with either!!! I will have to keep reading and banging my head against my desk. Maybe I will have to "pin the CAI on the Vibe" or something like that to make my choice. Hahaha Triton. Maybe we should start a club: Which CAI to buy?.... As some of you said, I'm looking for CAI that provides gains in low/mid range. I really don't go above 5000 rpm. Choices, choices and more choices...

Pawel · Post by **Pawel** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 1:53 am

The AEM makes more low end power, and the Injen give the best high end power. Here is the dyno that show you are right. http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id ... 1548#21548 [/QUOTE]Hmm. When you look at the second graph, it looks like Injen has more gain at low/mid range then AEM. This does not make it easier to chose....

d_m_kolb · Post by **d_m_kolb** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 2:11 am

Here's my custom CAI set uphttp://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=178

Sub-Vibe-R · Post by **Sub-Vibe-R** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 2:11 am

quote:Stop all the "which CAi should I get" and get your sleeves up and do your own homemade CAI!Here's a great example of 40$ CAI home design (Nissan Sentra)Or this design on a Pontiac GrandPrixAll available at Home Depot!!!

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 2:36 am

quote:Go for the cheapest and save the money for something else. I went with AEM because I got it for $200 from adventon.com.Well, if the AEM CAI is better for the GT (2zz) engine, and you can't beat that price, I might have to go for the AEM. On top of that, it does not cost anymore to get it in blue, unlike Injen. The dyno tests are so close, I think you should go for the cheapest also.

DopeVibeGT · Post by **DopeVibeGT** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 7:27 am

Ummm, no thanks. I payed the $$ and got one thats made for the car and looks....well...a heck of a lot better! LoL I could imagine popping the hood at a meet.... But, to each their own.Or do like I did on my GA and make one from another vehicles. But, it's only a WAI. Gets the job done.

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Mon Feb 10, 2003 10:24 pm

quote:Ummm, no thanks. I payed the $$ and got one thats made for the car and looks....well...a heck of a lot better! LoL I could imagine popping the hood at a meet.... But, to each their own.That's what I was thinking also. I think it looks a lot better to have either the AEM or the Injen rather than a home made one. But that's just me. I would also rather pay the money and get the looks and performance.

Stang2Vibe · Post by **Stang2Vibe** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 8:14 pm

quote:All available at Home Depot!!!LOL! yeah, or at ghettomods.com.I too am trying to decide. I like the Injen CAI, but I might need a little more down low when I am towing my jet ski in the summer. Spring is coming soon and mod-season will soon be upon us! Oh, what to do?

QUIKAG · Post by **QUIKAG** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 9:35 pm

I can't believe this thread is still going. Both intakes are so close, you should just buy the one that you get the best deal on. I have the AEM and love it. I haven't heard anything bad about either intake.

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Tue Feb 11, 2003 10:08 pm

quote:I can't believe this thread is still going. Both intakes are so close, you should just buy the one that you get the best deal on. I have the AEM and love it. I haven't heard anything bad about either intake. I have to agree. Both intakes are quality products and the performance is really close. I am probably going to go with the AEM because of price.

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 2:22 am

quote:I have to agree. Both intakes are quality products and the performance is really close. I am probably going to go with the AEM because of price.I may be changing my mind again. I found the Injen intake for a few cents more than the AEM in blue. The really cool part is now Injen has an oil cap that is also blue. Very cool. I am looking at around $250 with shipping for the Injen intake and oil cap. I found these prices at ADVENTON.COM.

QUIKAG · Post by **QUIKAG** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 4:30 am

Some people have had problems with aftermarket oil caps coming loose. I'd be careful. I got my AEM from adventon for less than $220 shipped, so you must be paying a fair bit of an appearance mod under the hood.

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 4:39 am

quote:Some people have had problems with aftermarket oil caps coming loose. I'd be careful. I got my AEM from adventon for less than $220 shipped, so you must be paying a fair bit of an appearance mod under the hood. I have heard of only one person here that had the problem with the loose cap. Must have been a freak occurence because no one else has had this problem as of yet. It would be a good thing to be careful with though. As far as the price for an apperance mod, I think it is worth it for the sharp look that it gives. Just my opinion though.

QUIKAG · Post by **QUIKAG** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 7:49 am

Obviously you can spend your money however you want. I don't plan on popping my hood to show off my MAD POWERZ 1.8L motor at the local rice show so I have no need for one.

redtrdmatrix · Post by **redtrdmatrix** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 1:54 pm

I would go with Injen since they are CARB legal

St. Martin · Post by **St. Martin** » Tue Feb 18, 2003 11:29 pm

K & N has a new CAI. I've seen no Dynos or any feedback about it. It's called the Typhoon, looks good, retails for $150. Anyone know anything compared to the Injen or AEM?

St. Martin · Post by **St. Martin** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 1:29 am

no, they make some fuel injection kits too, but this is the CAI:http://store.yahoo.com/rodi/kntypairinsy.htmlYou can order it there or check more details about it on the K&N site. However, there is no actual customer feedback or horsepower/torque figures. They say between 5%-10% increase, but that's a large range. Someone buy one and tell me how it is...

Lorin · Post by **Lorin** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 10:00 am

Its interesting that K&N doesn't publish dyno charts. I wonder if they know they can't beat the AEM or Injen so they market on the basis of the brand recognition of K&N. Based on the debates we've had already, if K&N came up more than 2 hp short, heaven help them!

Lancer · Post by **Lancer** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 1:32 pm

Unless your gonna dyno your car before and after installation, you'll never know exactly how much more hp and torque your getting. They both do the same thing. So I just went for what to me looks best.

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Wed Feb 19, 2003 10:04 pm

Very true. No one is going to see it when you are driving. The looks are more to show it off when you pop the hood. The only thing you will be showing off when driving is your license plate when you go past everyone! Well, you know what I mean. You can't beat everyone with a CAI, but maybe a few more than before.

Lorin · Post by **Lorin** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 10:10 am

Something I'd like to hear comments on is the servicability of the CAI's. It sounds like "Whew-eee I finally got it installed!" But 10,000 miles or so later, do you have to go through it all again to service the filter? That's the main advantage I can see with the K&N - seems much easier to access.

Triton · Post by **Triton** » Thu Feb 20, 2003 11:12 pm

I agree that it will definately be easier to access the filter on a short ram. But for how much I drive, 10,000 miles is almost a year of driving for me. So only having to perform maintenance once a year is worth the extra work. Let us know how the K & N performs for you.

DABEAR95 · Post by **DABEAR95** » Mon Feb 24, 2003 11:15 pm

quote:Which CAI would you guys recommend? AEM or Injen? I'm looking for more low & mid end gains.Thanks in advence.I have not seen a dyno of the stock airbox, so it is possible that any CAI will cost you some power under 4K RPM. I don't know for sure, just stating a possibility.Jason

DABEAR95 · Post by **DABEAR95** » Thu Feb 27, 2003 4:46 am

quote:How would that happen? I am no being smart, I would really like to know, I am not grasping it.To be honest, its over my head too, but I can give a bit of information.The intake and exhaust are a system and this system can be tuned using the length of the intake runners, diameter, volume, etc. When changing the intake piping you do not have a huge effect on this, but it can change the torque curve of the engine. Remember that horsepower is not measured, it is only calculated from the torque produced by the engine.I think the velocity of the air plays a role in this, thus changing the piping and how easy the engine is able to suck in the air can effect the power.People say that the more air that can be sucked in makes the most power, well that is true to a point. For example take a cylinder head with an intake port of 180cc on a 350 cubic inch engine. This port will be small enough to maintain the speed of the air flowing through it so it works great on the street for a daily driver. Make that port 210cc with no other changes and the engine is not going to run as well at low RPM. It MAY be able to flow more air, but you will take away some of the ramming effect near the end of the intake stroke. (the intake charge builds momentum in the intake and at the end of the stroke has a bit of a ramming effect).I know I am rambling on, but the point I am trying to make is that there are a lot of factors that effect the output of an engine.Jason

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