another CAI questions

[Digger]

Why not use the stock filter box with the tubing after the filter removed. Would this help? ofcourse a K & N filter would be put in the box.

[mcgusto82]

i can't fallow your question. please ask agin.

[northvibe]

being drunk i think i can sorta get the question. i think Digger wants to knwo if you could leave the stock air tubing to the airbox and remove the air filter and just run it like that. well you could but i wouldnt recommend it as anything that got in there would get put in the engine which...is bad for the engine. you'd need a filter somewhere. for that a short ram air intake would be good. stock tubing has ridges in it, which cai or short ram would get rid of to keep air flowing smoothly

[BlueCrush]

Are you talking about the tube that runs in front of the battery or the tube from the airbox to the throttle body?

[mcgusto82]

not sure if this is what you are talking about. but, you can remove the forward section of the car's stock intake. (the tube in front of the batery). you will gain more engine noise though. this is what i did when i got my scoop. had to remove the entire intake system, but felt like i didn't need the entire thing. you can't use the engine section of the stock intake system with a cone style filter. the MAF sits on the air filter box. you need the piping to house the MAF.vaccum line also comes off the filter box.

[Digger]

Leaving the stock tubing from the TB to the filter box installed with the K & N filter in the stock box. Remove everything past the filter box. I have an AWD wish is said to have a more restrictive exhaust. I am wondering how much a short ram with a cone filter would improve performance over a stock setup with the above removed. If the exhaust is restricting the flow to the point of reducing MPG and raising torque for the AWD, how much difference will you see in improving the intake?I also plan on putting a TB spacer in also.Also is a short ram a short ram. I see them for $50-250.00 What is the differance?

[mcgusto82]

Quote, originally posted by Digger »Leaving the stock tubing from the TB to the filter box installed with the K & N filter in the stock box. Remove everything past the filter box. I have an AWD wish is said to have a more restrictive exhaust. I am wondering how much a short ram with a cone filter would improve performance over a stock setup with the above removed. If the exhaust is restricting the flow to the point of reducing MPG and raising torque for the AWD, how much difference will you see in improving the intake?I also plan on putting a TB spacer in also.Also is a short ram a short ram. I see them for $50-250.00 What is the differance?well a full CAI will improve more than a short ram intake. reason being that the air in the engine bay is warm. cooler air is denser and will burn more eficiently. CAI will pick up the air from the wheel well.unless you have plans to make some kind of hood scoop to keep your engine bay cool. i'd say go with CAI. i did what you are talking about. remove the plastic tubing that goes to the head light?? yeah. you will gain engine noise. lol that tube works as a resonator. you hear the valve work with that removed. not to say it won't improve performance. cause i think it did for me. but again. you will be getting the engine bays' hot air. the difference in prices is really.. the stickers that they come with. actually some of the cheaper set ups don't come with instructions.but ask yourself... is a sheet of paper worth 50$? specially when the intake is really simple to figure out??my intake cost 45$ shipped. try looking under matrix XR intakes on ebay. there is alot more listed for those guys. almost everything internal is compatible with our cars.check my signature link and see what i did.

[Digger]

What about the heater hose in the TB. Did you by pass that?

[mcgusto82]

only line that goes with the intake system is a vaccum line that is about 7" long. CAI have a input for these. then again, i have a 04. without drive by wire. is yours a DBW? i know that the 05 + have a different intake set up when it comes to CAI.

[Digger]

Mine has a branch from the coolant system that runs though the TB to warm the air coming into the TB.

[mcgusto82]

well, i don't know exactly what these are but since the CAI for 05's + are different that the 04-. i would assume that there are inputs for this. then again, if the lines are going thru the throttle body... the CAI don't replace your throttle body. you still run your pipe from the TB like your stock intake does.just make sure that if you buy anything, it's for a 05 +.

[Digger]

I picked up a short ram on EBay for $33.00. I still need to get the TB spacer to complete the mod. I just hope I am not waisting my time since I do not plan on changing the exhaust any time soon.

[ToolGuy]

Quote, originally posted by Digger »What about the heater hose in the TB. Did you by pass that? I did this mod and did not see a difference... http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=17685I polished my throttle body at the same time and saw a little bit of a difference with that. The throttle body coolant bypass is known for other cars too and also is a waste of time.