I can see it now... Breaking News......4 Nebraska farmers dead after lion pride attack.

[Mr. Poopypants]

So this really does rank up there in the list of worst ideas:http://www.cnn.com/2005/TECH/s....htmlHow much exactly would it cost to Lion-proof a house?

[ZubenElGenubi]

I listened to an article on NPR yesterday with the author. He pointed out that he didn't think it was likely that this "re-wilding" plan would happen, but at least it would encourage debate and perhaps develop ideas of ways to recover the grasslands.I dunno, it might be kinda neat to see some giraffe's in Oklahoma...

[Mr. Poopypants]

Oh, don't get me wrong, giraffes and elephants...that would be cool. But if I lived in the plains I wouldn't want to worry about telling my kid, ".....and for the last time, stop messing with the cheetas."

[sloth]

Well I think most of these animals would get the three S treatment in Nebraska and I don't mean S#!t, Shower and Shave. Shoot, Shovel, and Shut Up. Several native species even fall into the 3 s treatment. Namely Mountain Lions and Wolves and yes both have been found in Nebraska.I think the biggest problem would be the elephants. It's a rare year here when ranchers have more hay than they need, can you imagine the impact elephants would have on the grassland in a near desert like grasslands here.Rediculous, glad most people in the article have more sense than the moron that proposed it.

[BlueCrush]

Would farming be considered a sport then?

[Mr. Poopypants]

Quote, originally posted by BlueCrush »Would farming be considered a sport then?Kinda like running with the bulls, only you are unwilling and there are crops involved. Oh, and the bulls have no horns, just claws and teeth and they are no longer vegetarian.

[GMJAP]

I can't see this as a good idea. I'm all for conservation where it makes sense, but we'd be better served applying the effort to native species, methinks.

[Mavrik]

so... would elephant insurance become availble for all those people who will probably get their car sat on?

[Toasted7]

If they put the elephants somewhere up north... they may just bring back the Wooly Mammath.

[sloth]

I've heard stories about scientist wanting to use modern elephants and dna from mammoths to create a hybrid of the two, so we can have mammoths again.I actually have less problem with this than them bringing african animals to North America.I think Northern Parts of Alaska, Canada, and Russia could support these animals with minimal impact on the enviroment.

[Mr. Poopypants]

Here is my question. Why do we need to have mammoths, mammi, mammothes, mommeth.......whatever? Is there a viable reason to have them roam the earth again, other than the fact that it would be pretty cool?*Edit* On second thought, does there need to be a reason other than it being pretty neat to see mammotheses?

[Mavrik]

Quote, originally posted by sloth »I've heard stories about scientist wanting to use modern elephants and dna from mammoths to create a hybrid of the two, so we can have mammoths again.I actually have less problem with this than them bringing african animals to North America.I think Northern Parts of Alaska, Canada, and Russia could support these animals with minimal impact on the enviroment.Oh... so send them to Canada or Alaska eh? LOL Have you been to Canada or Alaska? Its not all polor ice and igloos here ya know.

[sloth]

Quote, originally posted by Mavrik »Oh... so send them to Canada or Alaska eh? LOL Have you been to Canada or Alaska? Its not all polor ice and igloos here ya know. I know it's not, but the population per acre is very minimal giving these beasts plenty of room. Plus there isn't a ton of agriculture in the northern parts which would be effected. I'm not talking about maintaining huge herds, except maybe in siberia where frankly I don't care about the enviromental impact.By the way, I haven't been to either but hope to go to Alaska in the next few years.

[AKLGT]

interesting. why not create a large animal kingdom in some of these areas where they were caged inside a large area of "natural" habitat like areas? in england, they have these wildlife parks, you drive through and can take pics of all the wildlife in a safe armored vehicle, kinda like Jurassic Park. really, though, it would be quite interesting! we just went to Big Game Alaska a couple weeks ago, had bears and other wildlife at this refuge. your admission helps pay for the animals and their care. speaking of NE, has anyone been to the Henry Doorly Zoo?? when we were stationed at Offutt AFB, we had a family pass and went all the time. went to the grand opening of the rainforest (at the time the largest indoor of its kind). the best part of that zoo was the cat exhibit. in fact my 8th grade class raised enough money to sponsor the first "test tube" tiger.

[AKLGT]

Quote, originally posted by sloth »I know it's not, but the population per acre is very minimal giving these beasts plenty of room. Plus there isn't a ton of agriculture in the northern parts which would be effected. I'm not talking about maintaining huge herds, except maybe in siberia where frankly I don't care about the enviromental impact.By the way, I haven't been to either but hope to go to Alaska in the next few years.i don't think the environmentalists would go for that. we can barely keep them out of our business for wolf control, opening ANWR, etc! can't imagine if you tried to introduce a predatory species like lions into the fold! plus, no way they would survive in the harsher climates of the North Slope! i doubt they are used to -80 ° F!

[sloth]

Quote, originally posted by trdvibe »speaking of NE, has anyone been to the Henry Doorly Zoo?? Unfortunately I haven't had a chance to go there. I hear it's a wonderful zoo. I'll have to go over to Omaha and check it out if I get down to Lincoln for a Husker game this year. One of the few states you can drive for 8 hours and stay in state the whole way. I'm about as far away from Omaha as you can get and still be in NE.Ok, back on topic. I've never heard of a species moved to a different continent and not have very ill effects on the enviroment.And now slightly back off topic. There are groups that come speak at the college here about buffalo. They think farmers and ranchers should take down there fences and allow the buffalo to rome free again. I guess they don't understand what effect that would have on national food production. Texas to North Dakota feed the nation and no fences would greatly hender production.

[AKLGT]

Quote, originally posted by sloth »And now slightly back off topic. There are groups that come speak at the college here about buffalo. They think farmers and ranchers should take down there fences and allow the buffalo to rome free again. I guess they don't understand what effect that would have on national food production. Texas to North Dakota feed the nation and no fences would greatly hender production.yes, can you imagine? "sorry, jr, but the buffalo ate all our wheat to sell at market this year." i'm sure the farmers would love that!

[drunkenmaxx]

lions and tigers and bears, OH $H!T!!!!!!

[AKLGT]

when i read the title, it brought back images from that movie "ghost in the darkness"

[BlueCrush]

This just in: http://www.startribune.com/sto....html

[jwalcik]

what could possibly go wrong with introducing predators into a new habitat devoid of their natural pray? i mean c'mon, aside from those dead guys, everything worked out in the end in jurassic park.

[sloth]

Quote, originally posted by BlueCrush »This just in: http://www.startribune.com/sto....htmlWe or I should say I have kind of hi-jacked this thread.. sorry.The above story doesn't suprise me at all. These things can get pretty aggressive and not something I'd like to be caught in the open with if they're agitated. Fast as a race horse and pretty damn nimble. Oh and weighing 1500 lbs.Really the only way to keep these things in a pasture is to keep them happy other wise they'll go where ever they want. From what I've heard, if they can get their front legs over a fence(assuming they choose not to go through), that they are so top heavy that they'll slide the rest of the way over.A state park near me has a large herd of buffalo. At one time they had a buffalo long-horn cross. Talk about a massive animal. It looked like a buffalo besides a white face and slightly longer horns. It stood about 6 foot at the shoulder and was like 3 and a half feet wide.

[AKLGT]

Quote, originally posted by jwalcik »what could possibly go wrong with introducing predators into a new habitat devoid of their natural pray? i mean c'mon, aside from those dead guys, everything worked out in the end in jurassic park. lol! yes, as long as you weren't the guy eaten!

[redlava]

Quote, originally posted by trdvibe »speaking of NE, has anyone been to the Henry Doorly Zoo?? when we were stationed at Offutt AFB, we had a family pass and went all the time. went to the grand opening of the rainforest (at the time the largest indoor of its kind). the best part of that zoo was the cat exhibit. in fact my 8th grade class raised enough money to sponsor the first "test tube" tiger. I have been there many times. My sister lives in Omaha and usually drags me there every time I am out she has a season pass as well. They have a new "desert dome" and have recently redone the monkey house and I believe they have updated the big cat house as well. The rainforest is awesome but the best part is watching the penguins or the polar bears.Back on topic now. I read that in today's newspaper and I had several people looking at me in the breakroom I was laughing so hard. That is the one thing that is bad about scientists and so called experts. They have a lot of great ideas, the trouble is most of them suck. Something tells me they will be the (removed) of jokes from their "expert" colleagues for some time to come. Idiots.

[Mr. Poopypants]

Quote, originally posted by BlueCrush »This just in: http://www.startribune.com/sto....htmlDAMN! It's starting already.

[Toasted7]

Maybe they will make a sequel to the above mentioned movie...Jurassic Farm"Modern day animals, prehistoric bite."Mom, I wanna ride the hairy elephant!

[ZubenElGenubi]

And now this breaking news:http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/....html

[Mr. Poopypants]

Quote, originally posted by ZubenElGenubi »And now this breaking news:http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/....htmlYeah, lets just let them roam free! A-Holes.

[Mavrik]

you may take the animal out of the wild, but you can never take the wild out of the animal.

[sloth]

Quote, originally posted by Mavrik »you may take the animal out of the wild, but you can never take the wild out of the animal.You can take the kid out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto...errr wait this isn't the political asylum forum.

[Mr. Poopypants]

Quote, originally posted by sloth »You can take the kid out of the ghetto, but you can't take the ghetto...errr wait this isn't the political asylum forum.SHHHH....>looks around for millster

[AKLGT]

Quote, originally posted by ZubenElGenubi »And now this breaking news:http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/08/....htmlthat is just soo sad! i remember a while ago when a little girl was attacked and killed by their family's pet tigers. i think they had 2 of them.and this girl was even with the tiger's handler! wow!

[Toasted7]

I'll be sure to hire that handler for my kids next birthday party... sure I can get 'em really cheap!

[Psychobroker]

Quote, originally posted by trdvibe »that is just soo sad! i remember a while ago when a little girl was attacked and killed by their family's pet tigers. i think they had 2 of them.and this girl was even with the tiger's handler! wow! The irony in this is that no ONE human can restrain or handle a siberian (or any other) tiger. That's ludcrious. Ask Sigfreid...or Roy? I dunno.Tiger handler...LOL