Longggggg GM rant

[ToolGuy]

For your reading pleasure if you have the time...http://www.autoextremist.comSELF edited...

[ToolGuy]

I agree with a lot of this, observed some of this and have been saying these kind of things for as long as I have lived in Michigan.

[tnpartsguy]

BBL with comments. I had to cut and past and print it out, can't read 7.5 point veranda font for that long.

[wicked1981]

Yeah your right. Too long.Ill try to read this all later.

[kostby]

Source?

[ToolGuy]

From this week's http://www.autoextremist.com:

[russ257]

all i know is gm needs a sport compact car and dont try and tell me the cobalt counts. show me a 300 hp twin turbo car that can compete with the evo, sti, and srt 4.

[PhillyVibeGT]

Many, many, many great points to this article. As someone who eats, sleeps, and poops (lol) Chevrolet, I too fell the same way about GM. My father worked for GM for 30 years, he has always felt this way about them but I always blew it off but he was right. My mom and brother both drive Chevys, I did for ten years until I got the Vibe. I must say I was a bit unsure about buying a Pontiac, even more when I found out it was a Toyota(that is a "no no" in my house) but with the price and the style I went for it, and I am happy with my decision to go ahead and buy the Vibe. Now with my new job, and way more money to spend, I thought about trading in the Vibe and buying another Chevrolet, but I decided to go another route and buy another Nova and rebuild it. It is a shame to me to see GM like this but I guess you always get what you desirve.

[ToolGuy]

Quote, originally posted by PhillyVibeGT »As someone who eats, sleeps, and poops (lol) Chevrolet, I too fell the same way about GM. My father worked for GM for 30 years, he has always felt this way about them but I always blew it off but he was right. So true and me too! GM has provide lots of memories for me and my family and got my father to work and back. My 1987 Cavalier even got me through HS college and then my first job! Many thousands of miles on GM cars in my familiy. My first job was a contract worker with GM because I wanted to work for GM.Good luck with the Nova project and tell your family most GM's have parts made from all over the world, so lay off the Vibe! GM needs to change and clean house already, they are too slow!

[esjones]

This is a good article, BUT..... wouldn't it be better to have just posted a link originally? (I know someone posted a link later in the discussion thread.) Apart from copyright issues, it just isn't that easy to read something that long in the default tiny typeface, as others have also pointed out.Mods.... is there a policy on this? Do we need one?

[millster]

Quote, originally posted by esjones »Mods.... is there a policy on this? Do we need one?I don't think there is currently a policy aside from the standard "no violation of copyright" statement. While that would technically cover this, it really doesn't at the same time. As long as the source is properly credited with the article, it's usually good enough.OK. Now I've said that to say this:In the future, it might be best just to post a link, yes. It does make for an easier read sometimes.

[tnpartsguy]

Ok, after much thought and re-reading this several times, and because I work for a dealer, I feel that I can 't make a few 'insider' points....1) GM is a dinosaur, specifically, a T-rex. Much too big and hungry for it's own good. GM desperately needs to downsize, and to shed some extra expenses.2) GM has too many dealers. Any dealership that doesn't sell at least 60 cars/trucks a year is costing them administrativly, and needs to be terminated. I can think of 4 within an hour of here that fall into that catagory. Let's say they dump 10% of these dealers, that would be a huge savings in admin expense, as well advertising materials, and training materials.3) GM needs to extend their warranties to meet at least Chrysler's 7/70. They also need to improve their quality. The amount of recalls on GM products currently is staggering.4) Chevrolet = light duty trucks 1500, 2500, 3500's NO DIESELS; GMC is med duty trucks, 4500 and up, tiltcabs, ect. Diesels need to come from Catapillar, or be Isuzu, but untouched by GM, unlike the current Duramax, aka Duracrap.5) Revamp the Divisions.Saturn needs to be entry level. Chevrolet should be the everyman division, from entry level to large fleet-type vehicles to be used as police cars or taxis.Buick should be on par with Lexus, very comfortable, well engineered, dependable cars (not tucks, not sport Utes, not vans....CARS).Pontiac should be GM's Infiniti, sporty, but near luxury vehicles with decent power to weight ratios, and near top box quality.Cadillac should be world class luxury, bar none.6) This is the point that I dread making, but I feel I must....Somehow GM has to find a way to lower wages. The unions won't allow this of course, but it must be done. GM currently pays over $60/hour to have people assemble cars. (This includes benifits, and I PROMISE this is a real world number, not out of my (removed), but I can't reveal my source). I don't want to see any more jobs go out of this country, but unless the unions assist GM, we are either going to lose GM, or they will be forced to shutter plants here, and use outside plants, such as Mexico, and Korea.6) Stop building ****ty cars and trucks. Stop dropping historic nameplates just to appear fresh. Chevrolet brought back Malibu, and Impala, and those cars were good, and sold well. Cobalt makes me think BLUE, not Cavalier replacement. G6 makes me think Pontiac doesn't have an original bone in it body, and was trying to confuse people into thinking the Grand Am replacement was in the same league as the Infiniti G20 or G35....(it's not!0End Rant......carry on with your lives....

[gpk99]

Wasnt the GTO suppose to fill the needs of a sports car much like the new Ford Mustang has in terms of muscle-car retro for the GM fans? You dont hear much about it ......Also I still think the biggest mistake GM made was to kill the full size rear wheel driven sedan.Whoever is the brains behind the decision making process in GM should be shot because they sure lost touch with most of thier customer base by basically following the Asian importers and not having enough faith in thier own products and dis-swaying from what got them thier customer base in the first place. Any N American car maker for that matter.

[ToolGuy]

Point noted however I did state it was long. Someone emailed it to me and with the link that is how I got it. Sure, I can post the link next time, no harm no foul just get glasses to read LOL!!!! ....