PAC AUX-BOX -- direct input to Vibe factory stereo

johnsoax · Post by **johnsoax** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 8:43 am

Thanks, I know that. I can't find it anywhere. I have an email into PAC about it. I also found a local distributer, but they don't have any in stock. Waiting on a price for him to order me one.

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 10:46 am

Quote, originally posted by johnsoax Â»Thanks, I know that. I can't find it anywhere. I have an email into PAC about it. I also found a local distributer, but they don't have any in stock. Waiting on a price for him to order me one.This place shows 3 in stock:http://store.yahoo.com/logjam/perphiaux2car.htmlEDIT: Interesting- the cable selection guide on the site shows "not supported" for the Vibe. However, on Pac-Audio's site it shows support for the Vibe, with the AB-GM12 cable.Anyway, now they have 2 in stock. Was waiting till March when I'd have some cash - your post reminded me, and it's close enough! I'll post my experience....

johnsoax · Post by **johnsoax** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:17 pm

Thanks. I don't know how i didn't find that. I was even searching google.Now all I need to do if figure out if it will work with the 2003.

johnsoax · Post by **johnsoax** » Mon Feb 28, 2005 12:21 pm

Well, here is something interestingLocation: Heatunit. Use AB-GM12. Note: Will not work with 6-disc in-dash CD changer headunit, only with standard AM/FM CD Radio. This was listed under the 2004 Toyota Matrix on the PAC site. Here

johnsoax · Post by **johnsoax** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:00 am

Got this email todayRobert Wilson to me Unfortunately, the 2003 does not have the ability to use and aux input likethe 2004 and 2005 does.Thanks,Robert WilsonVice President of SalesPacific Accessory Corporation(714) 835-3022http://www.pac-audio.com-----Original Message-----From: Alex Johnson Sent: Sunday, February 27, 2005 3:36 PMTo: sales@pac-audio.comSubject: AUX2CARHello,I would like to purchase a AUX2CAR for my 2003 Pontiac Vibe GT withIndash 6disc changer.I have looked at the places that you link to under your purchase link,but can't find a place to purchase it. Any help would be appreciated.Alex Johnson

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:33 am

Quote, originally posted by johnsoax Â»Got this email todayRobert Wilson to me Unfortunately, the 2003 does not have the ability to use and aux input likethe 2004 and 2005 does.Thanks,Robert WilsonVice President of SalesPacific Accessory Corporation(714) 835-3022Bummer, dude. Good to know beforehand, though.

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 8:35 am

PS - You could always get an 04/05 unit off Ebay. They go for about $150, still much cheaper than an aftermarket.

kcinmi · Post by **kcinmi** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 9:02 am

So, let me pose a question. If the stock, single disc with moons and tunes has a 12 pin plug on the back for Aux inputs from either a changer or XM tuner, and your car didnt come with XM or a changer, couldnt you just add a tuner box or changer to that plug?

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:59 am

Quote, originally posted by kcinmi Â»So, let me pose a question. If the stock, single disc with moons and tunes has a 12 pin plug on the back for Aux inputs from either a changer or XM tuner, and your car didnt come with XM or a changer, couldnt you just add a tuner box or changer to that plug? Yes and no. Per johnsoax, if you have an 03 the apparent answer is a definitely not.XM: You can't add the GM tuner, because it requires a different radio with a "Band" button instead of "AM/ FM". You could add 3rd party, but won't be able to control it from the head unit and would need the AUX2CAR or AAI-GM24 to access an AUX input.Changer: Theoretically, if it talks GM Class-2, you should be able to. However, the only Vibe to come with a remote changer is the nav system so I can't be sure. For third party, you'd have to check with the manufacturer for compatibility. Otherwise, you need one of the PAC boxes and couldn't control it from the headunit.Jahntassa, Raging, anyone else have other info/corrections?

johnsoax · Post by **johnsoax** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 12:38 pm

Quote, originally posted by GMJAP Â»PS - You could always get an 04/05 unit off Ebay. They go for about $150, still much cheaper than an aftermarket.I actually think that an aftermarket will be cheaper. Then I have 80 for the AUX2Car + $150 for a new radio. I can get a very good aftermarket radio for less than $200 (well you used to be able to). Most of the aftermarkets taht I bought were under $250, and as I have the aftermarket setup right now, would be easiest to go with.My goal was to try to move back to factory, because it just frankly sounds better with the factory amp. I will have to talk to my friend at Delphi about getting me a 04 or 05 radio.

Jahntassa · Post by **Jahntassa** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:37 pm

It all comes down to how much you're willing to spend... The XM option for the factory radio is kinda out, because they'll only install the 'true' XM tuner at the factory. You can get XM direct for the factory HU, but they're like $300-$400 before installation, and only the dealerships have 'em.As for the six-disc, i'm not sure. The one that came with my nav is a GM-special Pioneer unit, so I have no idea if it'll work with anything else or not..Aftermarket is the easiest solution.. other than the mod that's posted where you open the thing up and create your own AUX-in.

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:55 pm

Quote, originally posted by johnsoax Â»I actually think that an aftermarket will be cheaper. Then I have 80 for the AUX2Car + $150 for a new radio. I can get a very good aftermarket radio for less than $200 (well you used to be able to). Most of the aftermarkets taht I bought were under $250, and as I have the aftermarket setup right now, would be easiest to go with.I have to disagree. $80 + $150 = ~$ 250 won't get you an aftermarket radio with integrated 6 disc changer and AUX input.EDIT Of course, that's dependent on whether or not the AUX2CAR works with the 04 indash 6 CD. PAC says it should, but I'll find out this weekend!

johnsoax · Post by **johnsoax** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:37 am

Quote, originally posted by GMJAP Â»I have to disagree. $80 + $150 = ~$ 250 won't get you an aftermarket radio with integrated 6 disc changer and AUX input.True, but with the Aux input, I don't need the in dash six disc changer. Currently, I am using the setup linked to in my signature. I was hoping to go back to the factory setup because it just sounds better than the cheap aftermarket stereo that I had in the closet that I had to solder in the AUX input because the connector had worn out. Plus $80 for the AUX to use with my factory stereo is cheaper than the $250 for a new Aftermarket stereo. And I wouldn't have to deal with the amp problems that I am dealing with now.

kcinmi · Post by **kcinmi** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:48 am

Dont all 2004 and up vibes have the Band button? Mine does.

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 7:36 am

Quote, originally posted by johnsoax Â»True, but with the Aux input, I don't need the in dash six disc changer. Currently, I am using the setup linked to in my signature. I was hoping to go back to the factory setup because it just sounds better than the cheap aftermarket stereo that I had in the closet that I had to solder in the AUX input because the connector had worn out. Plus $80 for the AUX to use with my factory stereo is cheaper than the $250 for a new Aftermarket stereo. And I wouldn't have to deal with the amp problems that I am dealing with now.Then you should consider the ultimate budget solution: wiring into the in-dash 6CD per this thread:http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=11735Since you would no longer care about the 6 CD it becomes even easier; you don't have to worry about the relay & switch.

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 11:17 am

Quote, originally posted by kcinmi Â»Dont all 2004 and up vibes have the Band button? Mine does.Umm.....ya know, I think you're right! Makes sense.

kcinmi · Post by **kcinmi** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 6:55 pm

And im not trying to sound like an A**, but doesnt the aux2car enable the CD/AUX button? Why does it matter if you have the Band or AM/FM button? SO, is there really any difference between the single cd headunit and the XM ready head unit? is the only difference the XM Ready sticker on the front of the headunit?

Jahntassa · Post by **Jahntassa** » Thu Mar 03, 2005 9:00 pm

The AUXBOX doesn't actually use the AUX 'function' supposedly in the radio. I believe it spoofs the radio into believing there's an XM unit, which shows up under the BAND button. The 03' units that do NOT have the Band button are NOT XM capable, and therefore cannot use the AUX2Car. Also, most factory headunits do not have an XM ready sticker, those are aftermarket radios.

kcinmi · Post by **kcinmi** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:21 am

just ordered AUX2CAR and ABGM12 today, should be here on Monday. I will let everyone know how it sounds.

kcinmi · Post by **kcinmi** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 5:22 am

When I was looking at Vibes, the ones that were XM ready had XM something or other on the face of the headunit, and it looked like the one I have.

kcinmi · Post by **kcinmi** » Fri Mar 04, 2005 10:30 pm

I was looking through the XM forum last night, and there were quite a few people who said that as long as you have the Band button on your radio, it is technically XM ready, all you need to do is add the turner box and antenna.

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 12:46 pm

Quote, originally posted by kcinmi Â»I was looking through the XM forum last night, and there were quite a few people who said that as long as you have the Band button on your radio, it is technically XM ready, all you need to do is add the turner box and antenna.Thanks for posting that. That kind of helps distill down a lot of the information on all this:2003 Radios: have "AM/FM" button, are not XM ready, and cannot be used with AUX2CAR. (The latter pretends to be an XM tuner or CD changer. Both in the case of the AAI-GM14)2004/2005 Radios: have "Band" button, are XM ready, and thus can be used with AUX2CAR.I've confirmed the "Band" button on 2004/2005 - the owner's manuals for both years show both radio units (1CD, 6CD) with "Band" button.Now the bummer for me: I have a 6CD indash changer taken out from a 2004 Matrix. I've ordered an AUX2CAR, which from my discussions with PAC Audio, should work with 2004/2005 6CD. However, my unit has an "AM / FM" button. So it seems 2004 Matrixes still used the older radio. This makes sense with what johnsoax was saying about GM not wanting to share the newer units with Toyota. It also explains why the 2005 Matrix uses a Toyota (non-Delphi) radio.So now what to do........

kcinmi · Post by **kcinmi** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 9:28 pm

Probably try to find a newer radio. Not sure if the JVC radios they were or are putting in the Toy's have the capability of an AUX input. Seems to me a JVC radio would be better than a GM unit.

johnsoax · Post by **johnsoax** » Sat Mar 05, 2005 10:39 pm

I've decided to just stay with an aftermarket radio. Won a new Blaupunkt on Ebay (will be my third, love the things). Check out the link in my signature to see as I change out the radio to the new one.

Atomb · Post by **Atomb** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 2:21 am

may be a dumb suggestion, but if the radio/car is still under warranty, could you try and bring it back to the dealer with a "problem" and ask if they could just replace it ...this my get you a newer radio?

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:02 am

Quote, originally posted by Atomb Â»may be a dumb suggestion, but if the radio/car is still under warranty, could you try and bring it back to the dealer with a "problem" and ask if they could just replace it ...this my get you a newer radio?I'm assuming you're referring to my dilemma. I bought it with the stock 2005 single CD, so I don't think they'll go for it when I show up with the 6CD unit I know the AUX2CAR will work with the single-CD, and another family member with a Vibe has been on the lookout for a 6CD. So I may sell him my 6CD, and keep my eyes open for an 04/05 6CD with the "Band" button.

johnsoax · Post by **johnsoax** » Mon Mar 07, 2005 6:21 am

Mine isn't under warrentee anymore. To many miles

MFP 4073 · Post by **MFP 4073** » Sat Sep 17, 2005 7:29 pm

Just wanted to throw in on this issue. I have a 2004 with the single CD player and a "band" button. I purchased this product http://www.sjgreatdeals.com/sgtauxgm.html , installed it, and it works great. I use the band button to access my SkiFi. This was the cheapest I could find the part on the 'net ($73.12) with shipping.I wanted to thank everyone who posted on this topic, because all of these posts helped to steer me in the right direction. Also, thank you for telling me how to remove the radio to get everything installed.I posted on XMFan.com and found a link to the actual part, so I'd like to thank those folks, also.I used to have a wired RF modulator, and this is FAR superior.Thanks again,Jay

cdbeshore · Post by **cdbeshore** » Mon Sep 19, 2005 11:45 pm

After doing a bunch of research and looking into everything, it was still a little confusing on what would work with my 2005 M&T with the single disc CD. I simply wanted to play my iPod and didn't want to even try the FM modulator. I thought about the hard wiring solution, but after cracking it open and still not being sure of the correct wires to splice I decided to try the safe route. I ended up purchasing a GM12-AUXv2 from discountcarstereo.com. Not trying to pimp them, just mentioned them b/c they sent the part quickly, were reasonably priced (under $80 with shipping) and helped me when I had trouble. I also talked to the PIE rep and he was very helpfull also. http://www.discountcarstereo.c...D=446Bottom line... It works!!!! It sounds great. I attached a pic so that you can compare radios. I have the band button with the cd/aux button below it. The hardest part is remembering to turn my iPod off when I get home. iPod running all night = dead battery.NOTE: You must connect the hot wire from the AUX to a CONSTANT power source. Don't be dumb like me and connect it to something that doesn't have power when you take the key out. My suggestion is to connect it to the fuse box.

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GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Tue Sep 20, 2005 12:24 am

Quote, originally posted by cdbeshore Â»NOTE: You must connect the hot wire from the AUX to a CONSTANT power source. Don't be dumb like me and connect it to something that doesn't have power when you take the key out. My suggestion is to connect it to the fuse box. Glad to hear you got it installed and working! The easiest place to get constant battery power, I think, is from the blue/white-striped (in some cases blue/yellow-striped) wire on the corner of the 24-pin (larger) radio connector.

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