K&N typhoon short ram intake

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dante
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K&N typhoon short ram intake

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Bought a typhoon short ram air intake for my 03 base vibe.installed it in about 20 minutes and ran with it for about 2 months. Took it off the other day sounds like you have a vaccum cleaner under your hood and no power increase that I could feel.They say that dyno tests see a 5-7hp increase I like my air box with a k&n filter. (anyone looking for a typhoon short ram intake)
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake (dante)

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Some one told me the Short rams don't give as much power as the CAI...The air travels longer in the cooled alluminum tube, I gues the colder the air the faster and smoother it travels, thus making CAI more powerful and effective vs. te short rams.
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake (Merzbow)

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i love my k and n typhoon. works great.do you have an auto
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake (satur9)

Post by silver_vibe »

Quote, originally posted by satur9 »i love my k and n typhoon. works great.do you have an autoDoes it sound like a vacuum under the hood? Just curious.I wonder if it would be better for me to do catback b4 air intake?
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake (satur9)

Post by dante »

yes auto trans it sounds like a vacuum with the hood open not as bad when it is closed and from the inside of the car but it is still a lot louder then with air box and I did not notice that big of a change maybe with a manual trans.
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake (dante)

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Mine kinda sounds like a vaccum but Personally I think mine sounds more like a supercharger because when I hit the gas tmakes the whiney noise like one until the engine warms up.
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake (silver_vibe)

Post by drunkenmaxx »

Quote, originally posted by silver_vibe »Does it sound like a vacuum under the hood? Just curious.I wonder if it would be better for me to do catback b4 air intake?think of it this way, if you start at the beginning (intake), you have more reason to get catbback afterwards; to allow for the increased air to get out more efficiently. gain wise, the cai outweighs the catback. ptuning.com has a package deal for the CAI and a catback.
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake (drunkenvibe)

Post by PhillyVibeGT »

Isn't that the whole idea though? My CAI sounds like a vacuum, more noticeable when first started(cold start). The whole idea of the short ram/CAI is for increased air flow, so it does suck air like crazy. I would imagine that the short ram is more profound because it is right there under the hood and not down behind the bumper.
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake (PhillyVibeGT)

Post by knoxville2013 »

not true because the cai pulls air in from underneath the car which is a lot cooler than a short ram pulling in air from the warm engine bay
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Post by DavidPIL »

Hi...Don't mean to speak for anyone, but I think he meant more profound sound since that's what the topic was about.This is to everyone...As for mine, it's loud but I knew it would be when I bought it. Freaks me out when I hit lift. Makes the engine sound angry... And the extreme sucking sound at idle is only loud till it's warmed up. Once it's warmed, there is still a hiss but it's not bad at all.Dave
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Post by PhillyVibeGT »

Quote, originally posted by DavidPIL »Hi...Don't mean to speak for anyone, but I think he meant more profound sound since that's what the topic was about.Yes, thanks...that is what I ment.
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I almost bought one but they wanted the same amount of money for it as Injen wanted for full CAI. And since full Cold Air Intake has better gains, why go short ram right?Now my buddy Jason has one installed on his 03 Vibe GT combined with magnaflow exhaust and his car sounds nice and has a lot more power to it seems.
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake (Mavrik)

Post by tecton »

i bought a SR from ebay for 25$the CAI is longer than the SRmore bendsall this equals more resistancethe SR would flow ALOT more air than the CAIhowever, i suppose the CAI air is colder than the engine air....would that even it out?whos to sayi like mine, im sure you like yours...more power to us
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake (tecton)

Post by Mavrik »

its the cold air you want, short ram draws in warm air from the engine area... really what difference is there between it and the stock airbox then other then the noise?
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake

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Hi...I do have a few questions about this and sorry for hijacking the thread but...Wouldn't the increased air flow in itself help with the K&N being slightly less restrictive (less bends and more (than some) filter surface area)?Also, I've not really noticed a LOT of heat after driving when opening up the hood, though yeah there is a bit, just not an extreme amount like it was with my Truck before this vehicle. Is there really that much difference in temp in the engine bay compared to 12" above sun-baked asphault?And lastly, does the temp matter more at the sensor or in the engine itself? I know the more dense cooler air is the key is the sensor on the intake affected in any way by the air temp?I left my tubing in from the original intake box to up near the radiator. Have thought about routing a tube under the car to scoop cooler air to the short ram filter. If I get cooler air there, that's got to improve the performance, right?Just wonderin....Dave
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake (DavidPIL)

Post by Z600 »

There's a thread floating around here somewhere where a dude actually did the calculations for the SR vs CAI. Something to do with the loss of power per each degree in temperature. It looked all nice and scientific, so I'm assuming he knew what he was talking about, but according to his data, the colder air more than made up for the extra "bendiness" of the CAI. Despite the SR's greater airflow capacity, the hot air it sucked in actually reduced the amount of oxygen available, thus lower power output. I think that's actually how all these benfits apply. The colder the air, the more dense, thus the more oxygen present. Then the computer adds the right amount of fuel to compensate. The smoothness of the piping contributes as well, allowing the engine to pull more air in faster, again resulting in more oxygen for combustion. It's all about the "O"! That's my take on it anyway... I don't claim to be a mechanic. ~ Z600
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Re: K&N typhoon short ram intake (dante)

Post by cristo13 »

I installed a short ram on my 04 gt. The check engine turned on. I've removed the two hoses from the stock box.
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