Ii seem's that montana is very promising car.Ressemble very much at the vibe two-tone. http://www.autosite.com/Previe...6.aspPreviews. Under the 2005 Pontiac Montana SV6’s hood resides a 3.5-liter V6 engine making 200 horsepower and 220 pound-feet of torque, stout enough for a 3,500-pound tow rating. A four-speed automatic transmission puts the power to the ground through the front wheels or all four. Though Pontiac markets the Montana SV6 as a crossover, its 6.5 inches of ground clearance limits off-road travel to the corn stand on the shoulder of the road. A fast mommy car
What is interesting about it is that Pontiac is almost advertising it as an all new model when in reality it is pretty much the existing Montana with a new engine, revised c and d pillars and a new front end.
2004 Base Vibe - Frosty - Two Tone Automatic, ABS, 16 inch factory alloy wheels, Power Package, Cargo Nets and Mat
The sad thing is we went through many years where GM stopped taking the same identical car and just changed minor things to differentiate Pontiac from Chevy from Olds...But those years are back.There are 4 variations of this menace...or should I say there are 4 modles with hardly any variations...Pontiac SV6:Chevy Uplander:Buick Terrazza:Saturn Relay:GM! PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE SAME CAR BEING SOLD UNDER 4 BRANDS WITH IDENTICAL APPERANCE!Next thing you know, the Vibe will become the next Buick and Caddy wagons...GRRRRRRRRR
YES!I still visit GenVibe periodically. I have not forgotten about my "original" family over here!
Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »GM! PEOPLE DON'T LIKE THE SAME CAR BEING SOLD UNDER 4 BRANDS WITH IDENTICAL APPERANCE!Yep... Too bad they killed Olds off, they could have had added yet another identical van to the lineup. I'm all for platform sharing, but it should be used wisely. Make the vehicles look different - like we see with Vibe vs. Matrix. Malibu vs. G6. Grand Prix vs. Impala, etc. Same cars, completely different personalities. When you just start slapping different emblems on the grille and not doing anything dramatic to differentiate the vehicles, that can't be a good thing.
03 Vibe base. Born 10/14/2002 06:07 AM
Auto, Moon & Tunes, power package. 143k
Neptune/dying clearcoat/primer grey.
I have to disagree with the lot of you. I stopped at my local pontiac dealer because they had the new montana out on their lot. The interior design is 100% better than the outgoing van. I like the exterior style - it is not the same old "bulb" look of the Toyota, Chrysler vans. The nissan has just a weird interior. I'll admit that I have not seen the new Honda, but I've looked at pricing. The GM van (while still on the old platform) is $4,000 less than a comparably equipped van from Honda, Toyota & Nissan. I'll be considering it highly when it comes time to get a new family hauler for my wife.
Quote, originally posted by ColonelPanic »Yep... Too bad they killed Olds off, they could have had added yet another identical van to the lineup.Speaking of killing off Olds, is the new Buick LaCrosse a reincarnation of the Oldsmobile Intrigue? I own a 98 Intrigue, and it is a very nice mid-size sedan, with a lot of features for the price.
- Earl Earl Jones, Sales and MarketingHorizon Systems LLChttp://www.horizonsystems.com/ Skype ID: esjonesMy Vibe: '03 Base, 5-speed, ABS, Alum. Wheels, Power Pkg, DVD Nav., Security, Neptune/Graphite
Quote, originally posted by ragingfish »The sad thing is we went through many years where GM stopped taking the same identical car and just changed minor things to differentiate Pontiac from Chevy from Olds...And don't forget GMC! Every Chevy truck, SUV and van model had a GMC twin, with only the most minor of badging and grille changes to differentiate them. The GMC and Chevy Suburbans even shared the 'Suburban' name! And remember the GMC Caballero? A rebadged Chevy El Camino.I owned a couple of GMC Safari vans, and eventually just started calling them "Astro" vans, because that is what everyone thought they were, anyway.I also owned a Pontiac Sunbird wagon years ago. Nobody knew (or cared) what a 'Sunbird' was, so I just started calling it my Vega wagon.
- Earl Earl Jones, Sales and MarketingHorizon Systems LLChttp://www.horizonsystems.com/ Skype ID: esjonesMy Vibe: '03 Base, 5-speed, ABS, Alum. Wheels, Power Pkg, DVD Nav., Security, Neptune/Graphite
We like the Chevy/GMC duality, becuase our Chevy dealership sucks and the GMC dealership rocks, so it's nice to be able to get the same vehicle with the different badging to go to a better dealer with better service. Also, if you don't like the interior on the Envoy, they can order one with a Trailblazer interior. Pretty cool, I think. The Envoy and the TB do have quite a few differences, especially on the inside, with the wood grain and chrome inside the Envoy. The chrome is alright but the wood grain is just oooogly.
Quote, originally posted by esjones »Speaking of killing off Olds, is the new Buick LaCrosse a reincarnation of the Oldsmobile Intrigue? I own a 98 Intrigue, and it is a very nice mid-size sedan, with a lot of features for the price.Yep, it's still a W-body like the Impala/Grand Prix/Century, and the now-defunct Regal and Intrigue. I got to see one up close the other day at the dealer, very nice car indeed! Was about $28K, loaded up nicely. Well worth a look, I'd say, if someone is interested in a comfy mid-size car...
03 Vibe base. Born 10/14/2002 06:07 AM
Auto, Moon & Tunes, power package. 143k
Neptune/dying clearcoat/primer grey.
Saw one of these on the road today.I've now seen the Buick, Chevy, and Pontiac models on the road. Only missing the Relay.AS fugly as these are, it appears they're selling!
YES!I still visit GenVibe periodically. I have not forgotten about my "original" family over here!