2005...annoying beeping from unplugged seatbelts

dsegundo · Post by **dsegundo** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 7:28 am

Hey guys & Gals,a friend of mine just bought a 2005 Base vibe. The damn thing beeps if you don't have the seatbelt on when the car starts moving. Is there anyway to disable the beeping from the seatbelt? Let me know please!

pmh013 · Post by **pmh013** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:39 am

Put on your seatbelt?

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:46 am

Quote, originally posted by pmh013 Â»Put on your seatbelt?So true!

Sputnik · Post by **Sputnik** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:50 am

Doesn't everyone wear their seatbelt these days??

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:58 am

Sadly no...

steves76 · Post by **steves76** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:10 am

Around here they say "click it or ticket" Its a state law 35 dollar fine

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:28 am

Quote, originally posted by steves76 Â»Around here they say "click it or ticket" Its a state law 35 dollar fineI believe that's a federal law actually...

Sputnik · Post by **Sputnik** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:38 am

Quote, originally posted by ragingfish Â»Sadly no...Wow. I don't know anyone who doesn't wear a seat belt.

steves76 · Post by **steves76** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 10:43 am

really I did not know that?

nismo · Post by **nismo** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:18 am

In my city, the law is a $50 ticket. No points, but it may have gone up since last year. I got a ticket last year for a seatbelt because the cop wanted to cut me a break. He was like, since this is your first ticket, I won't give it to you for speeding, I will give to you for seatbelt (I had my seatbelt on, by the way). The cop was really coo bout it. Inder

pmh013 · Post by **pmh013** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:21 pm

My husband tells me a seatbelt ticket is somewhere between $45 & $80 here. The last one he got was $45, but he thinks the fines have gone up. I thought they were more expensive than that.Some interesting seatbelt facts & figures from my area: http://www.sgi.sk.ca/sgi_inter...s.htm

Post by **NSimkins** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:30 pm

Ok, folks, he has a legitimate question... can anyone with any experience with the '05 fill us in on this? Any general idea where the beeping is originating from? I'll save you from the "wear your seatbelt" lecture as it seems it's already been told here.

glassman · Post by **glassman** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 12:46 pm

wow you guys get off easy it is $110.00 in b.c canada

Jahntassa · Post by **Jahntassa** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 3:14 pm

I think you need to trip the 'switch' in the seatbelt buckle. I don't suppose he could just have the seatbelt go -behind- the seat and click in? I think there'd be more than enough belt to do that... it would keep it out of the way.Not that I condone it, mind you. I would think hitting the airbag with no seatbelt would instantly kill you..

Kari · Post by **Kari** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 9:28 pm

Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa Â»Not that I condone it, mind you. I would think hitting the airbag with no seatbelt would instantly kill you..It will push you up and through the windshield if you aren't wearing a seatbelt. They're meant to work together.

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:43 pm

dsegundo-The following thread discusses preventing the alarm. Please note that there was also some debate about whether the seatbelt detection tied into the airbag system and could cause problems if disabled in another thread.http://forums.genvibe.com/zero...55425Here's also a wiring diagram from another thread:http://forums.genvibe.com/zerofile/5671/043sbw.pdfI've got the 2005 service manuals on order, so if the above doesn't work for you, repost and I'll dig through them to try to find something.

ToolGuy · Post by **ToolGuy** » Wed Oct 27, 2004 11:45 pm

There is a great thing called a windshield that will stop your head for you when you get into an accident. Happens to a lot of people and you can read about them in the Police Briefs after the weekends, they usually are dead from not wearing their belt. In our state it is the law...

dsegundo · Post by **dsegundo** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 12:42 am

Yes we do wear a seatbelt. Some of you guys just jump to conclusions. The reason why we were wondering this is because it does this when you hit five miles per hour. Now if you live in an apartment complex, you know that you have to drive a little ways to throw things awya or to your friends "crib" and that's where the annoying beeping comes in. Just to move the car around in a driveway will start the beeping and it gets faster and quicker the longer it goes. It also will not stop if it's just the driver that buckles up. I'll try the other thing. Is there a way to find out about the airbag?

ToolGuy · Post by **ToolGuy** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 1:12 am

I do not know but does the 05 have the seat sensors that know when a person is in the seat thus it will deploy the bag if in an accident and not when there is no person in the seat? If so then that chime may be tied to that sensor. Sounds like it is more tied to the belt buckle though. Second, my 03 has the light on the dash for the passenger. If I press my hand down on the pass seat the light blinks. I am sure with that system I could find the switch for that light and disconnect it. Does the seatbelt chime sound the same as the normal door, key and headlamp chime? If not then it sounds like you could cut the wire from the seat that goes to the chime box or unplug the box. I highly doubt the air bag is connected in some way to that chime because if the chime failed and the car was in an accident and the bag did not deploy due to a broken chime, GM would have a huge issue on their hands. Like if the air bag dash lamp burns or blows out, the bag still will work if needed. Air bags are usually on their own systems.

dsegundo · Post by **dsegundo** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 5:39 am

Not sure but it is wired into the airbag and the seat cushion and all that. We're just going to have to live w/ it because it's a lease. I wonder if it's on it's own fuse...hmmm....anyone?

kcinmi · Post by **kcinmi** » Thu Oct 28, 2004 6:37 am

its 60 or 70 dollar fine here in MI

discojunkie76 · Post by **discojunkie76** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:07 pm

There is a couple of wires attatched to the seat belt connection, cut one (i suggest you do it under the seat, incase you want to reattach it). And it will make the car think the seatbelt is buckled, however, if you don't wear your seatbelt anyway you are not too smart but the beep is REALLY annoying. I personally have not cut the wire my self, due to the fact it is still under warranty, and it makes me wear my seatbelt always, as annoying as it is, I think its a great way to enfoce the seatbelt. Be safe.

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 4:10 pm

DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT just arbitrarily cut wires!!!!!!!!!Those wires are for more than just lights and buzzers. They are fully integrated into the safety systems of the car.IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO BYPASS IT, DON'T GUESS!Airbags are wicked dangerous...cut or splice the wrong wire, and kiss your airbag system (as well as windshield and other interior parts) goodbye.Only a fool would pick a wire and cut.Just my $0.02.

joatmon · Post by **joatmon** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:12 pm

Quote, originally posted by MiVibe-ToolGuy Â»Second, my 03 has the light on the dash for the passenger. If I press my hand down on the pass seat the light blinks. I am sure with that system I could find the switch for that light and disconnect it. on an 03 vibe, the passenger seatbelt light is very easy to disable. Just pull off the bezel around the radio and disconnect the electrical connector that goes to the light. Obvious which one if you remove the bezel.

ColonelPanic · Post by **ColonelPanic** » Fri Oct 29, 2004 10:48 pm

How often does the seat belt buzzer go off on the 2005's, anyway? Is it constant, or does it just randomly go off whenever?I'm not sure how heavily the seat belt buckle switch is tied into the SDM. Obviously it is, since when the car is involved in a crash and the air bags deploy, seat belt usage at the time of the crash is recorded in the SDM. Whether the input the SDM sees from the seat belt buckle switch is used for changing how the air bags deploy, we can only speculate. I would see about finding a way to disable the buzzer itself, that way you aren't messing with the input for any sensors the SDM may use. In a prior post, I believe someone mentioned the buzzer is integrated into the gauge cluster itself, although I don't know for sure.But, another option I think you could try would be to track down a vehicle in a junk yard with the same seat belts as our cars.. Cut off the belt and snap the buckle in place, viola - you won't be bothered by the warning, and you won't have permanently hacked up anything in the car.

steves76 · Post by **steves76** » Sat Oct 30, 2004 4:50 am

I have the 05 and once it starts to beep fast if you wait a little more it will stop beeping. the only thing after that is the light will flash.

ToolGuy · Post by **ToolGuy** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 2:07 am

Quote, originally posted by ragingfish Â»DO NOT, I REPEAT, DO NOT just arbitrarily cut wires!!!!!!!!!Those wires are for more than just lights and buzzers. They are fully integrated into the safety systems of the car.IF YOU DO NOT KNOW HOW TO BYPASS IT, DON'T GUESS!Airbags are wicked dangerous...cut or splice the wrong wire, and kiss your airbag system (as well as windshield and other interior parts) goodbye.Only a fool would pick a wire and cut.Just my $0.02.So the air bag will not go off if the belt is not buckled, even though there could be a person in the seat? The belt is key here? We developed a tool for Chrysler that has weights all the way up to a 90 Lb person. The weights are used to diag the seat sensor and air bag deployment. In this case for the bag to go off, the belt does not have to be buckled, just someone sitting in the seat.

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Mon Nov 01, 2004 10:00 am

Not what I meant...The belts are integrated into the SIR system...and the service manual warns that you can trigger a accidental deployment by tampering with any part of the SIR system...

Psychovibe · Post by **Psychovibe** » Tue Nov 09, 2004 11:48 pm

We put racing seats and harnesses in our 05. The factory seats are equipped with sensors and if you unplug or cut wires to the seat and the belts it leaves an air bag warning light on the dash, but the beeping stops. When I unplugged and removed the seatbelt from the B pillar entirely all the lights and the beeping stopped. However the Airbag light in the center of the dash for the pass airbag now says airbag off.Do not just unplug stuff because you don't want the beeper which is located in the cluster or directly behind it.You need to wear the belt or not but if you unplug stuff you also turn off all the airbags, and this may void more warranty, due to altering things the dealer can track.

rwmikulas · Post by **rwmikulas** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 3:33 am

How do you disable the seat belt buzzer under the seat? Thx.

AzFusionGT · Post by **AzFusionGT** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 4:04 am

Not that I have a clue when it comes to electrical wires and stuff, but I always wear my seatbelt, so the beeping doesn't bother me. I did want to comment on the passenger seat though. I get the biggest kick out of the blinking seatbelt light when I do have a passenger. I've dubbed it the "Stewardess Light."

ragingfish · Post by **ragingfish** » Sun Dec 05, 2004 5:23 am

In a simpson's fashion (or was it family guy), I always say "don't make me tap the sign!" when someone refuses to wear their belt.My car, my rules --> the car doesn't move until everyone has a seatbelt on. You don't gotta like it, but you do gotta do it.

kep427 · Post by **kep427** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:15 am

With all the discussion in this thread, I'm surprised no one noted my situation (lucky for me the '04 models don't have the annoying beep).The passenger seat is pretty sensitive to pressure. My dash seat belt light usually comes on when I put a few items (such as books or my backpack) on the passenger seat which I'm forced to do once in a while. I would be really p'o'd if I had to drive down the road with an anoying beep just because I have some things stacked in the seat.

rebbierae · Post by **rebbierae** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:21 am

So when I got my '04, my boyfriend disconnected the passenger sensor. I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt, but like kep427, I put my backpack on the seat every morning to go to work, and it was annoying to watch the light blink, so we disconnected it. But now reading this makes me wonder--that's not going to cause me any problems in the future with airbag deployment, etc...is it?

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:54 am

On the last 2 posts:Can't you just leave the pasenger belt buckled? This way it won't beep when you put items in the seat. It does mean it has to be unbucked before a passenger sits down, but maybe you have passengers rarely enough to make it worth it? (I do)On the airbag issue, I can't give a definitive response, but the schematics in the 05 service manual show the seatbelts sensor signals going into the airbag module.Maybe a solution is to pick up just a buckle from a salvage yard. Leave it clipped in, while the real seatbelt and buckle is unbuckled as normal. When you put heavy stuff in, it won't beep, and when a passenger gets in, they can just pop out the spare buckle, toss it in a center cupholder, and then put the seatbelt on as normal.

damronjr · Post by **damronjr** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 4:56 am

Quote, originally posted by GMJAP Â»Maybe a solution is to pick up just a buckle from a salvage yard. Leave it clipped in, while the real seatbelt and buckle is unbuckled as normal. When you put heavy stuff in, it won't beep, and when a passenger gets in, they can just pop out the spare buckle, toss it in a center cupholder, and then put the seatbelt on as normal.This sounds like a smart idea to me!

kep427 · Post by **kep427** » Mon Dec 06, 2004 10:28 pm

Excellent ideas. In my case, the flashing is infrequent (depends how I toss in my stuff and if I'm in too much of a hurry to rearrange) and doesn't really bother me. But I would definately look into the extra buckle if there was beeping involvoed.

Jezter · Post by **Jezter** » Mon Dec 20, 2004 3:21 am

heehee, funny comments in here. I have an 05 now. The 03 blinking light bugged me just a little, especially when I had a gallon of milk sitting there, but I figured it was a good reminder to buckle up the milk. HA HAIn the 05 I never drive without my seatbelt, however when I am close to my driveway and want to back on it I take the seatbelt off so I can lean back easier. I hate the beeping but I laugh at it more thinking it's more of a backup beeping like in one of those big trucks or a bus, LOL. Statistics are very very close in percentages of death with or without the seatbelt in a high speed crash since anything can happen but in a slow speed crash a seatbelt can make all the difference! No passengers ride without seatbelts either...unless they want to ride on the roof.

keto123 · Post by **keto123** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:29 pm

i have a 2005 AWD vibe.Same thing.Selt belts buzzing all the time.Buzzes even if you park the car, put in park and then take off belt.It is very annoying.It's also very loud.

keto123 · Post by **keto123** » Thu Dec 23, 2004 10:33 pm

I have the same problem.For me, this is NOT a wear your seltbelt thing....I always do.The difficulty is when you have a passenger ( say your wife or someone) beside you and you drop them off, even if you have the car in PARK , as soon as they unbelt the buzzer is going.......you can't sit in the car and talk without being belted in...this is ridiculous......should only happen when car is moving..........not stopped in PARK

kep427 · Post by **kep427** » Sun Dec 26, 2004 11:29 pm

Quote, originally posted by keto123 Â»I have the same problem.For me, this is NOT a wear your seltbelt thing....I always do.The difficulty is when you have a passenger ( say your wife or someone) beside you and you drop them off, even if you have the car in PARK , as soon as they unbelt the buzzer is going.......you can't sit in the car and talk without being belted in...this is ridiculous......should only happen when car is moving..........not stopped in PARKEgads. You mean expecting common sense from an auto designer? Your kiddin', right? LOL

tahoan · Post by **tahoan** » Sun Oct 02, 2005 2:11 pm

I tried this, and it disabled the passenger seat belt alarm in my 2005 Vibe, but not the driver's. You must do this when there is no weight on the passenger seat.1) Turn the Car 'ON', but do not start the engine (Leave your foot off the brake). Cycle your trip reset knob until it reads ODO. Turn the ignition back off. Wait a couple of seconds.2) Make sure seat belt is not fastened3) Turn the ignition back on, do not start the car (Leave you foot off the break) As soon as you see everything light up, press and hold the trip reset knob and do a long 12 second count.4) Keep your finger on the trip reset knob. Fasten your seat belt, as soon as you fasten your seat belt, you should see the ODO display go from XXXX miles to "b-on". At that time take your finger off the trip reset knob and press it again. It should cycle to "b-off". You should be all set and turn the ignition off and unfasten your seat belt.

de387 · Post by **de387** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 5:24 am

So let me get this straight. If the dinger malfunctions - the air bags will not work- even though a set belt IS worn?!!!! And no one please say that can't happen! Anything can go wrong with these new cars and the 500 miles of electrical wiring in each car. I just got my Vibe back from service and the dinger on the passenger side no longer works - and I did nothing to unhook it - Pontiac did something. So when a passenger rides in the seat with the seat belt on, then they have no air bag protection now? Gessssh. I was not going to complain, since I dislike the dinger (oh my god, I said it! I wear my seat belt, but still think the dinger is silly).

GMJAP · Post by **GMJAP** » Mon Oct 03, 2005 6:39 am

Quote, originally posted by de387 Â»So let me get this straight. If the dinger malfunctions - the air bags will not work- even though a set belt IS worn?!!!! And no one please say that can't happen! Anything can go wrong with these new cars and the 500 miles of electrical wiring in each car. I just got my Vibe back from service and the dinger on the passenger side no longer works - and I did nothing to unhook it - Pontiac did something. So when a passenger rides in the seat with the seat belt on, then they have no air bag protection now? Gessssh. I was not going to complain, since I dislike the dinger (oh my god, I said it! I wear my seat belt, but still think the dinger is silly). The passenger airbag display on the center of the dash (next to the hazard & defrost buttons) will tell you if the airbag is on or off when a passenger is seated. If it doesn't show "ON" when you have a passenger, then they not have airbag protection and you should take it to the dealer.If it does, you should be okay.My other post was not intended to say for sure that signal is required for the airbag; only that it is connected to the airbag module so cutting wires intentially may be a bad idea safety-wise. (but don't know for sure).Finally, there is a post around here on how to disable the beeping in alarm module through a series of key turns and pushes of the odometer button. So if you get it fixed, you can always safely turn off the beeping....

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