nascar- dale Jr fined

[russ257]

http://sports.espn.go.com/rpm/...95384 I think this is stupid. They can fine him money all they want but messing with the points is dumb. If it comes down to him losing because of this there will be a big uproar. I think all this politically correct stuff is stupid. So he won a race and was excited and swore. Not that big a deal.

[Mavrik]

he swore? my god whats the world coming to? I mean if anyone of his fans swore... the end of the world is here! Then again I'm not much into NASCAR but if the driver/winner of the 24hr la mons won and go out of the car and said "that was f#*&ing AWSOME!" I'd laugh my (removed) off.

[cohocarl]

I think NASCAR made a mistake earlier in the year by penalizing other drivers with fines and points reduction for cursing, so they had to dock Jr. also. I agree he should have been given a fine, but swearing after the race during celebration shouldn't be tied to points.Wouldn't it be something if he lost the championship to Mark Martin by less than 25 points???? Remember back in 1990 (I think) Mark was docked some points due to a carb spacer wasn't welded to the manifold (had NO impact on performance) and lost the championship to Earnhardt Sr. by less than the points he was docked.I'm not sure if I like the new points system. It's keeping it interesting, but it's possible for a driver who wasn't the overall best throughout the year to be champion.

[Kari]

Quote, originally posted by cohocarl »I think NASCAR made a mistake earlier in the year by penalizing other drivers with fines and points reduction for cursing, so they had to dock Jr. also. I agree he should have given a fine, but swearing after the race during celebration shouldn't be tied to points.I agree, it shouldn't be tied to points, but at least they were finally consistent in ONE ruling. They docked other drivers' points earlier in the season for post-race (or out-of-the-car) language infractions, so they had to dock him too. I'm sure it pained them greatly to penalize their golden boy.

[ToolGuy]

I am a huge Jr fan and what I hate is NASCAR started the no cussing rule mainly for cussing on the radio. Dale Slipped up and said a word he probably always uses in conversation. Does not make it right but why fine any driver and take points away from them, when Janet Jackson did not get fined the $500K but CBS did! Total BS and his cussing had no bearing on the race and the job he had done or any driver if they too cuss. Plus the network is still not getting fined! Fine drivers money yes but not take away points. NASCAR has so many rules now it is not even funny and it seams they change monthly. Anyway Go Jr. #8 and this will only make him race that much harder the rest of the season.

[Kari]

The problem is that they had done the same thing to other drivers earlier in the season -- fined them and docked points for post-race or otherwise out-of-the-car cursing that ended up on TV. So they had to do it to Jr too, although I'm sure they really didn't want to, especially since it cost him the points lead. But for once in their lives I guess they decided to be consistent with a ruling, and this happened to be it. Whether or not he regularly uses the word in conversation is irrelevant -- NASCAR laid out this rule and they warned the drivers about it. He violated it, whether intentionally or not. So they had to dole out the same punishment they did for other people earlier in the season, lest they be accused of favoring him.

[ToolGuy]

I have watched most of the Nextel Cup races this year and his is the only one that ended up on TV that I know of. When the broadcast plays in car audio they never use a mad driver for fear of him saying somethng he should not have. I agree with what you are saying a rule is a rule and that is not my issue and I stated it does not make it right he said it even if he says it all the time. Cussing in the Busch Series I cannot comment about...

[Big_Red]

What a load of Sh%^ !!!! This is politics. Between Dale, Tony and Jeff nobody is able to make any headway to first place. Let's see, 25 points and $10,000 fine.Okay so the word is 4 letters in length, so that is uhmm...$2500 per letter and 6.25 points per letter. What a load of horseshi%^

[Big_Red]

Quote, originally posted by silverawd26 »Check this out: http://www.goofball.com/news/990903_can ... 24Michigan Law.... My 3rd cousin was engaged to this guy.... She married someone different just last weekend LOL... ....so in the State of Michigan to spend 3 days in prison costs less than $75, eh? 1897 law, eh? Can they even count that far back?

[ToolGuy]

DREW SHARP: Earnhardt's penalty crosses the wrong line October 8, 2004 BY DREW SHARPFREE PRESS COLUMNIST This is getting @#$%&# ridiculous. Naturally, I say this at the risk that the Free Press will dock 25 verbsfrom my repertoire two days before the Lions' next road game forcontributing to societal decay, succumbing to that most egregious moraloffense -- the occasional potty mouth. People swear. It's unfortunate. It's not encouraged. It's also notpreventable. You know what? (Stuff) happens! Just ask Dale Earnhardt Jr. Little E made a little mistake. He uttered a four-letter word after hisvictory Sunday at Talladega, Ala. Heaven forbid that a shred of spontaneityexist in sports. He was excited. He was honest. He was obviously a poor rolemodel. Junior's televised vocabulary malfunction and subsequent NASCAR sanctionswere another reminder of Middle America's tendency to blame sports andentertainment for our inability to instill right and wrong in children. And NASCAR freaked. Same as the NFL overreacted after Janet Jackson's split-second peep show atthe Super Bowl. NASCAR's punishment for swearing during a live interview was a feebleattempt at pacifying the morality police. Earnhardt was hit with a $10,000fine, and 25 points were subtracted from his Nextel Cup season totals forhis regrettable indiscretion during an NBC interview. The loss of pointsdropped him from first place to second with seven races remaining. All that was required was an apology, but the incident has once again raisedthe Federal Communications Commission's antennae, spawning another obscenityinvestigation. NBC announced Thursday that it would institute a five-second delay on itsNASCAR telecasts. "We're disappointed for our viewers to have to do this," said NBC Sportschairman (removed) Ebersol, "but the delay provides a level of protection againstanything inappropriate going out over the air." NASCAR confuses fear with responsibility. The stock car circuit seemsfrightened that grievances from hollow complainers, many of whom thinkrestrictor plates have something to do with Weight Watchers' diets, willchip away at the sport's growing national appeal. Demographics mean more to the Frances, NASCAR's first family, thanaerodynamics, and that has *******ized what was one of the last raw forms ofsport. Oops, that word's a no-no. That'll cost me another 20 verbs. But why is it that sports and entertainment must meet a higher standard forpublic decorum than those who articulate public policy? Why was it perfectlyacceptable for the vice president of the United States to lob F-bombs at aU.S. senator during the heat of a political disagreement? There was no demand for intervention, no fear of the example that DickCheney might have created in households should little 10-year-old Mary findout about his profanity-laced exchange with Patrick Leahy. The presidenteven expressed his pride in Cheney's "resolve." The irony is that those same who frown on government regulation demand thatthe FCC wield a hammer in stamping out questionable morals on the publicairwaves. Family values are conceived in the family, a formula that hasn't changed ingenerations, even though some contend that sports and entertainment havemade it increasingly difficult to steer young minds in the proper direction.There's a simple solution. It's called parenting. Tell your kids what youknow to be right and wrong. Introduce them to the word "No." Tell them theonly example that matters is the one you convey. Children always will hear or see things that are unacceptable, whether it'son television, on the street, in the classroom or in the kitchen beforeeveryone gathers around the dinner table. But it's not any worse becauseit's an athlete swearing or, far worse, treating those around him withdisrespect. But if NASCAR is so preoccupied with image, perhaps it should direct itsattention toward a potentially inflammatory documentary scheduled forrelease around next year's Daytona 500. It's called "Dixie 500," and it examines what some believe to be a wideningcultural divide between the sport's rural, hard-core roots and thecorporate-obsessed enterprise that seeks accessibility for everybody. It reportedly showcases the seamy underbelly, laced with fans who freelyspew racial epithets and endless references to slavery and lynching. Not exactly family values worth promoting. And exactly where do you think those incendiary thoughts were learned?