stereo advice

[glassman]

hi gang it has been 10 years since my last kick ***** stereo so i am a little out of the loop and need some inputi looked at sony xplod seems kind of low end any one with a set up the rockspioneer seems to have down graded from what they used to beclarion seems to have stepped up to the plate alpine still has itmy 10 year old alpine amps have the same or better specs the alot of the new amps should i reuse them??components in the front?? 6.56.5 in rear as well???what type of power is reqired now a days are the amps over rated i used to run true 65w x2 rear 40w x 2 front 200 w subman has the price of amps dropped compared to long ago

[shocker sf]

i havent installe my amp or speakers yet im not sure if im gonna ive installed a Pioneer Primear Deh-p850 ( i think thats wrong) and im plany happy with the bass and sound.I have a set of PPI Coax Speakers for the front and rear that i may hoop up to a PPI 6600 (100x6) Amp. IM not sure if im ever going to add a sub.

[lazytiger]

I really like Alpine. Everyone you talk to will give you a different opinion, but I think the consensus is, more or less, that brands like Alpine, Kenwood, Clarion, and Pioneer make good stuff. Sony and JVC are on a lower tier. But to appease any Sony or JVC lovers out there, that's not to say that some of their stuff isn't decent. You just gotta look into what you're getting.Sounds to me like there's no reason to get new amps if your old ones are still going strong. Solid state amps certainly should last a lifetime, if properly cared for. The wattage of your amps should be plenty, even by today's standards. In fact, you'll have to get pretty good speakers to handle 65w RMS (are the figures you gave RMS or peak?).Yes, you can put 6.5" speakers all around, even though the stock rear speakers are 5.25". Don't know why they did that. Replacing the speakers is somewhat of a pain, since the stock speakers are riveted to the doors. And, in the front doors at least, you'll have to buy new spacers or gut the stock speakers to use the plastic frames. Well, there are lots of tutorial threads here in this forum. Do a search. Good luck.

[Jahntassa]

Old Skool amps are much better than their newer counterparts. Even the Alpines. Alpines have great sound, true, but are they worth the expense? Audiobahn, MTX, JL audio, MB Quart are some of the higher end. Each manufacturer depends on the components. Sony Subs are pretty good for what they are, but most of their other components are lackluster.

[nismo]

Had my experience with Audiobahn, they're speakers are pure garbage. I would never recommend getting those.Inder

[Jahntassa]

Quote, originally posted by TRD4reel »Had my experience with Audiobahn, they're speakers are pure garbage. I would never recommend getting those.InderAs said, depends on the components. I would heavily agree. Their amplifiers, and subs, however, are a different story. Just like I'd buy a Pioneer headunit, but not their speakers or amplifiers. Sony Subs, but nothing else. Polk speakers, but not neccesarily their amplifiers.

[nismo]

Question. What is wrong with Pioneer speakers? I have the Pioneer 4-ways on mine and I've gotta say, it sounds DAMN good.Inder

[glassman]

yes the amps ratings ar rmsi was thinking alpine sps 171a component frontsalpine sps 170a rearsstill unsure of subs i dont like sloppy thumpers nice tight bass but deep

[nismo]

IMHO, I think that Infinity makes some clean sounding subs. This is jus me and my experience. Don't get Fosgate or Kicker if you want the clean bass. It's gonna sound good. I like my Infinity. Sounds great and does the job.Inder

[glassman]

any one running alpine head unitsor something else got some model # to check outi want 3 pre out built in cross over mp3 play back would like an input for my mp3 player

[nismo]

my cuzin used to have the Alpine-9807 in his ****scort. It was a great HU and it had 3 preouts. So, there ya go.Inder

[glassman]

why did he get rid of it i read the specs sounds exactly what i am looking forno circuit city in canada sounds like we are getting ripped

[ragingfish]

When I was HU shopping, the trend seemed to be anything more than 1, MAYBE 2 sets of pre-outs would send the price through the roof...Do you REALLY need 3 preouts?

[glassman]

ya front rear and subs

[ragingfish]

Ohhh...my bad...eah that's not unreasonable, mine has 3 preouts...I misunderstood, i was thinking 3 sub connections. I'm running a pioneer deh-p7500mp head unit...has mp3 capabilities, aux input for whatever...in my case xm radio...i love it, paid about $280 a year or so ago...

[glassman]

i am looking on ebay alpine cda 9827 $199.00 shipped

[Jahntassa]

I think nearly all Alpines have a sub out, so at the very least, two, if not all three pre-outs.

[lazytiger]

Quote, originally posted by glassman »yes the amps ratings ar rmsi was thinking alpine sps 171a component frontsalpine sps 170a rearsThat's exactly what I have. The components are good, but I'm running them off the head unit and they are begging for more power. Shouldn't be a problem for you, since you've got some amps. Though, you said your one amp puts out 65w RMS... the Type-S components can only take 50w max.The Type-S 2-ways, unfortunately, I'm much less impressed with. They just sound muddy and crappy. Maybe juicing them up really creates some magic, but I'm skeptical. Unless you're fixated on having an all-Alpine setup (as I was), I would take a look at some different 2-ways.Quote, originally posted by glassman »still unsure of subs i dont like sloppy thumpers nice tight bass but deepI've got a 12" Alpine Type-E in a sealed Q-Logic box, and it's low and tight. The Type-E's are great performers for the money, and they don't require tons of power to sound good. I've got a 200w amp on mine.Quote, originally posted by glassman »any one running alpine head unitsor something else got some model # to check outi want 3 pre out built in cross over mp3 play back would like an input for my mp3 playerThe Alpine CDA-9827 is definitely the way to go, with 3 4-volt pre-outs and MP3 playback. It does not have a built-in crossover, though. You'd have to step up to the "swing face" models for that, like the CDA-9830. Don't your amps have built-in crossovers, anyway? Or is that one of the differences between amps now and amps from 10 years ago?

[glassman]

no the amps don't have a cross over but do have the alpine eq with the sub controler and crosover built in it is no a powered eq like a pre eq be fore the ampsi am thinking of srr 176aand spr 174a now i found a good web siter for cheap parts http://shop.store.yahoo.com/di....html

[glassman]

how do you find the 9827 for adjust bas and treble qickly while driving a few guys have told me its a pain

[lazytiger]

On Alpines, the bass and treble are controlled by a "center f" button below the big dial. Press the button (once or twice, for bass or treble), and then you can "shape" the sound. You select a center frequency (the frequency you want most-emphasized) from 4 choices (60, 80, 100, 200 Hz for bass, and 10, 12.5, 15, 17.5 kHz for treble) by pressing the forward/reverse buttons and then you boost or cut that frequency using the dial. Basically, it allows you to grab two variable points on the EQ spectrum and dynamically reshape it. The frequencies surrounding your selected center frequency slope off, creating a smooth curve; it doesn't just affect the selected one and leave the others flat. It's not as sophisticated as a real EQ, but it allows a lot more flexibility than the ol' bass and treble controls without being much more complicated.Does that answer your question?

[glassman]

yes great thanks stopped at the local shop today and had a good listen to a bunch of stuff the 9827 is the deck for meas for speakers sps 171a and sps 170a sound pretty good but i want to have a listen to the r series before making a desision