How often do you miss a gear????

[polaris1000]

How often do you guys and girls miss a shift when driving your Vibe. I still have a problem after a year and half with missing 2 gear when pushing the Vibe hard. I have found the 2 gears I have a problem with are 2nd and 5th. Anyone else still miss a gear once and awhile Can wait till the short shifter comes out. Maybe that will help

[ToolGuy]

Are you sure there is nothing wrong with it? Bad syncro or linkage adjustment needed?I never miss a shift on my manual trans car and I mentally know when racing the shifter self centers between 3-4.

[Mase]

3/10 times, I wont be able to get it into 2nd when shifting hard around 8200rpm. It just grinds until I re-clutch and rev match. My XRS has been doing it ever since passing the break in period. There are a few XRS owners over at MO.com who also have the same problem.

[MadBill]

After 50,000 km and 15 months, it's been months since I've missed a gear, and when I do it's because I'm being lazy during moderate driving and am dipping the clutch only about an inch while being a bit sloppy with the shifter. The couple of GTs I've driven briefly were much harder to shift smoothly and much more prone to missing a gear!

[Jahntassa]

No problems here, either.. I'm lookin' to do the brass bushings, though.. in hope that it'll make things smoother.

[Psychobroker]

Quote, originally posted by Mase »3/10 times, I wont be able to get it into 2nd when shifting hard around 8200rpm. It just grinds until I re-clutch and rev match. My XRS has been doing it ever since passing the break in period. There are a few XRS owners over at MO.com who also have the same problem.I have this problem too and thought it was user-error (me)...I guess I wasn't mis-clutching???

[joatmon]

I miss a gear every now and then, for me it's my fault when it happens, let the clutch out just a bit too early when not paying attention.Sometimes I also have trouble downshifting from 5th to 4th (in my 5 speed), but it seems to be better now than it used to be.

[MadBill]

Now that you mention it, joatmon, I used to have trouble with the 5-4 shift in my 5-speed also, e.g., losing speed up a hill, need a quick downshift but finding some non-gear somewhere to the right of 4th. Don't know if the box got better or I did...

[joatmon]

yep, that was it. Guess it's better to find that non gear than to find reverse at those speeds. I too am not sure if the box got better or I did.

[polaris1000]

Quote, originally posted by Psychobroker »I have this problem too and thought it was user-error (me)...I guess I wasn't mis-clutching???So what do we think here?? Is it just human error or is it something with the car!!!!!! I only really notice it when in LIFT and trying to stay in LIFT when shifting from 1st to 2nd..

[drummerdude]

Quote, originally posted by polaris1000 »So what do we think here?? Is it just human error or is it something with the car!!!!!! I only really notice it when in LIFT and trying to stay in LIFT when shifting from 1st to 2nd.. I've missed several 1-2 shifts in lift and also 4-5 in lift shifts. I've had both my 2nd gear synchro's replaced under warranty, and it still does the whole grinding theing from 1st -2nd in lift... unless you hit it perfectly and i do when i pay attn. but when i'm not... i grind it and re-clutch!

[03VibeGT6Spd]

I have missed 2nd gear a few time's.I think it's because of the stock bushing's.When I tryed cacathys shifter (with the brass bushing) at the MI meet,I relized mine was like shifting a wet noodle.Someday Soon I'll buy them and I give a report.

[polaris1000]

Quote, originally posted by 03VibeGT6Spd »I have missed 2nd gear a few time's.I think it's because of the stock bushing's.When I tryed cacathys shifter (with the brass bushing) at the MI meet,I relized mine was like shifting a wet noodle.Someday Soon I'll buy them and I give a report.I to thought that getting the brass bushing would help with this. I have put in the brass bushings changed tranny fluid to Redline MT-90 and put in motor mounts and I still have the problem. Only thing left is a new clutch and short shifter.

[Mavrik]

I have never missed a gear in my 5spd now when driving the GT 6spd I have missed 3rd by accidently shifting to 5th haha... I knew instantly when that happened.

[Psychobroker]

Quote, originally posted by 03VibeGT6Spd »I have missed 2nd gear a few time's.I think it's because of the stock bushing's.When I tryed cacathys shifter (with the brass bushing) at the MI meet,I relized mine was like shifting a wet noodle.Someday Soon I'll buy them and I give a report.I still miss that 1-2 shift in lift a good deal of the time, even w/ the brass bushingsEDIT: When I say "Miss", I don't mean that *I* miss the shift point and/or try to put it in a higher gear...I have tried with the freaking clutch all the way in and it still grinds. I have a feeling my 1-2 synchro's might be screwed. I think I'm going to schedule an appt. with the dealer next week.

[VibeChick]

Several people that I know with a GT/XRS complain about the 1-2 shift when in lift. Seems to be a common problem. And these are people who have been driving a stick for a long long time, so I don't think driver error is the issue.

[Psychobroker]

Quote, originally posted by Salsa! »Maybe there is a safety of some sort in the GT transmission?Now Salsa! that's not logical, I would see a safety from 2 to 1 (downshift) like some Volvo have but not from 1 to 2 (upshift).Unless, the force/stress/pressure created by lift in 1st gear causes some reaction in the transmission during the upshift!A safety feature that prevents you from utilizing your power band...that would suck

[MadBill]

Quote, originally posted by Salsa! »..Unless, the force/stress/pressure created by lift in 1st gear causes some reaction in the transmission during the upshift!I think that just might be close to the truth, Salsa! On manual transmission V-8 Camaros for instance, I've sometimes found in the lower gears at high RPM that the engine torques up so much on it's mounts that the shifter moves around quite a bit, and it's easy to aim it in not-quite-the-right-direction. Would be interesting to see if anyone who has installed firm motor mounts sees a difference in shifting.

[Mase]

Quote, originally posted by MadBill »I think that just might be close to the truth, Salsa! On manual transmission V-8 Camaros for instance, I've sometimes found in the lower gears at high RPM that the engine torques up so much on it's mounts that the shifter moves around quite a bit, and it's easy to aim it in not-quite-the-right-direction. Would be interesting to see if anyone who has installed firm motor mounts sees a difference in shifting. I also thought that was the problem on my car. I figured the ES mount inserts would fix it, but after I put them in they didn't seem to help much with keeping the 1-2 lift shift from grinding. I even switched to Redline MT-90...still grinds. I've just learned to slow down my 1-2 shift slightly to avoid the grinding.

[silver_vibe]

It happened to me quite a bit over the first 12,000 miles or so (I have over 26000 miles on the Vibe now). Having well over 200,000 miles of manual driving experience, I kept telling myself "it can't be me! How can I be missing more shifts in 12k miles than I did in my entire 200k miles, pre Vibe driving experience?" (not counting the first couple of months when I was learning to shift of course)Well, I have come to realize, it was driver error (me). I personally believe it's because the shifter in the Vibe is tilted slightly toward the driver (when compared to every other manual I have driven). As a result, I was sometimes letting go of the clutch and dropping my lead foot a fraction of a second too soon. Once I realized this, it hasn't happened since. Now I happily chip my tires from 1 > 2, 2 > 3 and 3 > 4 as I ease up to the speed limit

[hman33]

sometimes when i'm runnin' hard i've missed 3rd gear,and sometimes when not paying attention i've missed 5th , but that's user error.