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csharrigan

Umm, yea, so weirdness.... I must say my starting problem is fixed, but now my car smells like rotten eggs-- what gives? I Usually notice it right after getting out of the car after it had been running, or when I start it and it was already hot. I must admit I'll tolerate the smell as it's much bett...

csharrigan

I would tell them to look into cases that it wasn't fixed with first PCM replacement. I believe it should be documented, some sort of PCM revision. Not positive though, worst case scenario is calling into the executive office and finding out who can get the correct part ordered and sent to your deal...

csharrigan

I really dont care about the follow up call.... my car finally starts correctly.

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Still no problem, how is everyone else making out?

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I notice the rev too, however, my car always does that when cold, and never did w/ hot starts, and when it was difficult to start it would flutter at a less than normal rpm for a couple seconds. For the record though, I have a few 05' Corolla's around, none with the starting issue, and all do the li...

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Has started everytime so far, and definately faster. My car always gave me trouble in very hot/humid weather, and this week has been very atypical.. cold/wet, I won't be completely convinced until it does it's good a week or so. Performance didn't change in mine, just a noticable change in starting ...

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Still behaving, notably different start times/ engine catch, still crossing fingers though.

csharrigan

PCM installed today.... as were my tires balanced, and rotors turned... started to get some jitters... The car is "behaving" so far, and I will keep my fingers crossed, I have noticed however, that the warm start time has decreased overall, that doesn't mean it won't have an episode, I hop...

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Received call, My car is going in on Thursday morning for a "brain transplant"

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Damn, I got MUCHO Calls, however, not ONE that is USEFUL, Where is my new PCM? LOL

csharrigan

Well the last call I got was (2) weeks ago, and supposedly I was to hear from my dealer to schedule their proposed remediation, and that has yet to happen. For sure I will mention it to them in our next conversation.CH

csharrigan

I am doing my best to keep a positive attitude, however, you must admit that it is getting difficult. Many unsuccessful trips to the dealer, and lack of progress is still where we are. I must say though, regardless of the remediation, I am impressed with the communication I am getting from the "...

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I still haven't got a call from my dealer about my magical repair. Thank god they doubled my warranty on electrical components, as I see a starter going in the near future. FIX IT! I wonder if they sent our dealerships some pixie dust and a magic wand to install the second PCM.

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Dude, I got my PCM replaced in, hmmm, January, and it didnt work for me either, however, I am really thinking that we may have gotten the old stock PCM when ours were replaced, as it has worked for some.CH

csharrigan

I just received another call from the executive group, they believe they have found a resolution, and just wanted to keep me posted, they are going to contact my dealer and notify them of the parts to be replaced, and I should hear from the dealer shortly.!!!!!!!!!!!! I am impressed, I just hope it ...

csharrigan

Well I am excited of your results, because, possibly, if it fixes your car, than my replacement PCM was of old stock.CH

csharrigan

Well what do you do when they don't know what to repair? I mean my PCM has been replaced, and at this point, after numerous re-checks they are still baffled. I have contacted pontiac, the executives at GM... you run out of options.

csharrigan

Honestly, as much as i'd like to think you could "lemon law" it, after researching, I doubt it would ever hold up. Locking at other peoples cases, since the car runs, and eventually starts, the courts would say it's an annoyance, but not a lemon, as eventually it does run. It is four times...

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I am tempted to visit a Toyota service center and find out what their final solution was to the problem.CH

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Good luck, the TSB fixes did nothing for my car. I am curious though, that the replaced PCM had the same software that my original did, and hadn't been updated (old stock), I just want it fixed as well, however, John, is unable to set a timeline, and I feel that the car is never going to be fixed, a...

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Yea, I received a call from someone at the executive office at GM, and they initiated an "investigation," who knows.

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Link? many of us have researched the problem hours on end, and visits to dealership w/o a remedy.

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I have a couple ecotec's in the family... AT LEAST THEY START WHEN HOT.

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As Paris Hilton would say, "That's hot," it must have changed mid-production or something because I have encountered a few people with 2006's that have the problem.Mine definately is much worse in the warmer weather, and unfortunately for me, I do a lot of short trips so I encounter the cr...

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Yes you can. Another lousy "we're going to start an engineering investigation," that has been the consistent response from General Motors since the first time my car was unsuccessfully diagnosed in September. The gentleman from the Executive office was unable to give any answers, and thank...

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I got a call today from someone at the General Motor's executive office regarding our letter, I am at work so I can't return call until tomorrow, I'll keep you all posted.CH

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Unfortunately the said "fix" doesn't solve monsts problems.

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Still waiting, no response, I did find an email address for mark laneve, and sent it that method, I didn't get a mailer-daemon, so I will assume it was received.CH

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I just wanted everyone know the letters were sent. Please post if you hear anything, I haven't yet.CH

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Blah Blah Blah.. cookie cutter copy of "Hot soak starting problem," hopefully it will eventually be fixed, the pcm likely won't fix the problems, however, pontiac is "working on it."http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=20641

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Still no effective fix. blah.

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Another week before it gets sent, anyone who wants to be on make sure your listed.http://web.mac.com/csharrigan/....html

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We got four!

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GET ADDEDhttp://web.mac.com/csharrigan/....html

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2 Weeks it is, will be printed may 26th, get your contact info in. If people use other boards with and have contact with others please direct them to this post so we can get as many contacts as possible. thanks, ch

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no longer interested? everyone disappeared.

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Review letter, has been updated.

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I take that back, 3 times for the same problem does qualify-- didn't read well enough! score, how do you want it phrased?

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I don't lnow if any of us qualify for lemon law, mine has been in 4 times, and visits never exceeded a day, the problem isn't fixed- which is annoying but I don't think it would qualify. If you still want me to add it give me a way to phrase it in the last paragraph. You guys can start emailing me w...

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http://homepage.mac.com/csharrigan/vibe.pdfThat is the letter as it stands, let me know of revisions, and then we can start putting together the list of names.CH

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I am a full-time student, and when I truly have to study (quiet places on campus you always end up seeing you know and end up not getting done what you need), I use it as a deask for writing, or to put my laptop on (wifi throughout).CH

csharrigan

Hook it up, get the name, yea it would be great to direct them to others also having the problem. Ugh, aftermarket parts? That would give them a reason to blame them, and unfortunately, that won't work towards a fix.

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I don't know how we should do it logistically. I wrote a letter, let me know of any modifications I should make, and I was thinking if you guys want to email me your names, addy, phone #, i'll add them to a sheet and send it with the letter... any other ways of doing it is cool too, let me know.May ...

csharrigan

I feel ya, I have noticed it has gone from happening once a week to 1ce every couple days, and on days that it is acting funky multiple times in one day.CH

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Interesting, I haven't heard of anyone with a GT or a matrix XRS having the problem, I'd be shocked if it were related.CH

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I'm Down with it, if you would like i'll write a draft and then we can revise

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Wow someone close by! I live in Warwick RI, The dealer is Cerrone Pontiac, GMC, Cadillac in Attleboro

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2004 Corolla/Matrix/Vibes w/ same engine and control systems had no problems, I guarantee it has something to do with the drive by wire, throttle cableless setup..GRR..

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I really don't care, if it didn't rattle I would hope that it shattered to cost them more--since they can't get my car to start normally.

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