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unable to remove rotor (SOLVED)

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:21 am
by cooter
Hi folks.

Replaced pads and rotors on my '03 Vibe over the weekend. Well, I replaced one rotor, because I could get the other one off. Seems to be rusted to the hub.

I sprayed WD-40 everywhere, used heat (propane torch) and banged on it with a rubber mallet, all to no avail.

Is there anything else I can do, or do I need to take it to a shop where they can use a puller?

Thanks.

Re: unable to remove rotor

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:34 am
by SeattleJeremy
Some disks have threaded holes where a bolts can be inserted and tightened as a way to lift the rotor away from the hub.
Like the smaller holes in this diagram.
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Re: unable to remove rotor

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 9:40 am
by cooter
SeattleJeremy wrote:Some disks have threaded holes where a bolts can be inserted and tightened as a way to lift the rotor away from the hub.
Like the smaller holes in this diagram.
http://extranet.soleniuminc.com/Centric ... 044115.jpg" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
That's a good idea! Unfortunately, the OEM rotors do not have them.

Re: unable to remove rotor

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:24 am
by kumquat
I've generally solved this problem with liberal application of a 5-lb sledge.

Though you might be able to rent a puller of sufficient size from Autozone/Advance Auto.

Re: unable to remove rotor

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:29 am
by SeattleJeremy
Boo, it was worth a shot.

It takes time for WD-40 to get in to all the crevices. After applying let it sit for an hour or more, then try again with the mallet.
When you do get it off put some "Anti-Seize Lubricant" on all the touching metal parts. It will make this easier next time.
Sorry I can't be more help.

Re: unable to remove rotor

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:38 am
by cooter
kumquat wrote:I've generally solved this problem with liberal application of a 5-lb sledge.
I've read you can't get too aggressive without damaging wheel bearings, so I avoided smashing it with a big hammer.

Thoughts?

Re: unable to remove rotor

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 11:50 am
by kumquat
I haven't busted a wheel bearing yet. Those things handle some pretty serious shocks hitting potholes and stuff. Think about the amount of force applied when the entire weight of a car slams a wheel into a decent-sized pothole. You're going to have a heck of a time generating even that with your arms and a sledge no matter how hard you go at it.

I've removed wheels from cars that would not come off with a 5-lb sledge by loosening the wheel nuts and slamming on the brakes from 10 mph. If that generates more force than a sledge, then you don't have much to worry about IMO.

+1 on the anti-seize. I forgot to mention that part. I apply a little bit to the surface where the wheel contacts the rotor (on cars with steel wheels) as well. Make sure that what you use is appropriate for high-temp applications. You could use a little bit of brake lubricant in a pinch.

Re: unable to remove rotor

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:09 pm
by cooter
kumquat wrote:I haven't busted a wheel bearing yet. Those things handle some pretty serious shocks hitting potholes and stuff. Think about the amount of force applied when the entire weight of a car slams a wheel into a decent-sized pothole. You're going to have a heck of a time generating even that with your arms and a sledge no matter how hard you go at it.
Is there a specific location you recommend when striking the rotor? From the side (edge of the rotor)? On the face of the rotor? Between the lugs?

Thanks.

Re: unable to remove rotor

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 12:50 pm
by kumquat
cooter wrote:
kumquat wrote:I haven't busted a wheel bearing yet. Those things handle some pretty serious shocks hitting potholes and stuff. Think about the amount of force applied when the entire weight of a car slams a wheel into a decent-sized pothole. You're going to have a heck of a time generating even that with your arms and a sledge no matter how hard you go at it.
Is there a specific location you recommend when striking the rotor? From the side (edge of the rotor)? On the face of the rotor? Between the lugs?

Thanks.
Everywhere. I'd start with a few good whacks around the edges, then a few around the edge near the lug bolts. Then maybe a few from the backside of the rotor surface. I'd go easy on the backside though, that's where you're going to get the most potentially damaging force on the bearing assembly. The rotor floats a little bit around the lugs so you should be able to knock it loose hitting the outer and inner edges.

Re: unable to remove rotor

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 3:43 pm
by Chiadog
My personal favorite system! youtube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtsTJCRljAs

Re: unable to remove rotor

Posted: Mon Sep 30, 2013 4:17 pm
by SeattleJeremy
Chiadog wrote:My personal favorite system! youtube video.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mtsTJCRljAs
That's brilliant!

Re: unable to remove rotor (SOLVED)

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 2:31 pm
by cooter
FYI everybody - using the bolt/nut through the holes that the calipers bolt to in order to press the rotor off the hub worked like a charm. It was off in less than 5 minutes. Much more effective than bashing it with a hammer.

Re: unable to remove rotor (SOLVED)

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 4:25 pm
by Chiadog
Thanks for the update! Good to know this "system" works.

Re: unable to remove rotor (SOLVED)

Posted: Thu Oct 03, 2013 5:53 pm
by kumquat
Good deal. That is a clever method.