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Looking to Upgrade to 17" Rims
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 12:02 pm
by ou.grizzly
What does everyone think?Borbet Rims @ 24 lbs Beside 28 lbs per rim which is heavy
Re: Looking to Upgrade to 17" Rims (ou.grizzly)
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:06 pm
by kevera
Where are you looking at buying the rims.Did you check out the places I suggested.What is your budget?
Posted: Mon Jan 26, 2009 9:54 pm
by Wolfman213
IMO, the MOMO's would look better. But I've never been a fan of the 7 spoke rims. I've only liked them on very few cars.
Re: (Wolfman213)
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:08 am
by vibolista
Quote, originally posted by Wolfman213 »IMO, the MOMO's would look better. But I've never been a fan of the 7 spoke rims. I've only liked them on very few cars.Yea, me too! And look at those seven spoke rims on kevera's Vibe. Yuck. Sorry, grizz, had to do that. I looked at the Momo wheels, too, (look really good) but the weight pushed me away.
Re: (vibolista)
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 12:17 am
by kevera
Quote, originally posted by vibolista »Yea, me too! And look at those seven spoke rims on kevera's Vibe. Yuck. . Pardon,joking right??
Re: (kevera)
Posted: Tue Jan 27, 2009 1:57 pm
by vibolista
Quote, originally posted by kevera »Pardon,joking right??If the snow wasn't covering up the rest of my spokes (sig pic), you would probably count 7 as well. Yea, joking. More like commenting on wolfman's seven spoke remark. And I have a set of MR-7s on my wife's car. So two sets of seven spokers in the garage. Didn't mean to get anyone's knickers in a twist. Peace.
Re: Looking to Upgrade to 17" Rims (ou.grizzly)
Posted: Sat Jan 31, 2009 9:36 am
by good vibe-rations
Although I'm not a fan of too many spokes I like the look of the Borbet Rims between the two choices you give.
Re: Looking to Upgrade to 17" Rims (good vibe-rations)
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 12:09 am
by Vibe2009
I am looking to upgrade my 17in chrome clad rim as well....Can I simply replace the rim and use the existing factory tire? To reduce the cost...what will be the width of the rim? 17in X ??As well, what do I do with the TPMS sensor? Can I pull it out from factory rim and put it onto the new rims?
Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2009 10:18 pm
by Sublimewind
As somewhat mentined here already... Don't forget weight... It plays a key role in car performance... do some reading on "unsprung weight" It effects milage, acceleration, braking, and overall handeling... If at all possible, you want to go lighter, not heavier.. I shaved ~5lbs per corner on my Subie when I got my forged Volks, and I could almost instantly tell a difference, espically after adding ~150lbs of sound deadener... It was like I got my performance back after adding the deadener... (on a (removed)-dyno mind you)
Re: (Sublimewind)
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:08 pm
by vibolista
Hey, Sub, I put a set of the 17" Borbet wheels on my Vibe with a slightly larger tire than Pontiac puts on their optional 17s. Here's what I have noticed so far.1. Added wheel and tire weight is not detrimental to overall ride or handling. I went from the 16" OEM RS-A to a 225/50 17 Kumho Ecsta Platinum LX all season. Very quiet and smooth running tire, that is way more responsive than the RS-A. A very good thing for a Vibe. 2. On the negative side, the ride is a tad stiffer. Stiffer sidewall and inflation press. probably responsible for that. But the quicker response and quiet nature of this new tire is well worth the slightly stiffer ride.3. My Vibe tracks much better at speed on highways.4. Have not seen a fuel economy hit, probably because I keep the inflation a little higher than recommended (adding to that 'stiffness' quotient) and tend to drive reasonably.Now, I don't disagree one bit with your statement about light wheels at all. I'm a Colin Chapman fan and one of my favorite quotes " to add speed, add lightness." was his. He had a bunch of good ones. Sticking a set of heavy wheels and tires on a high performance sports car would be crazy. For top performance, everything light is golden. The same goes for acceleration. Turning a set of heavy wheels from a dead stop quickly would be like ramping up a heavy flywheel. Unless someone is going to race a Vibe, having a set of wheels that are a few pounds heavier per corner than the OEMs should not be that detrimental. I find my Vibe much improved with this wheel/tire.
Re: (Sublimewind)
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 1:43 pm
by ou.grizzly
Quote, originally posted by Sublimewind »I shaved ~5lbs per corner on my Subie when I got my forged Volks, and I could almost instantly tell a difference,And how much did those Volks cost you? (removed)
Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2009 2:16 pm
by ajflan
Weight blah blah blah. I don't think it's really an issue with a Vibe. I love my Vibe as much or more than most people on here, but I did not make weight a factor in my wheel selection. I'm not going to be racing anyone anytime soon, and braking has never been an issue for me. The Vibe is my sexy cruise mobile, and that suites me just fine.
Re: (ou.grizzly)
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 4:54 am
by Sublimewind
Quote, originally posted by ou.grizzly »And how much did those Volks cost you? LMAO1100 shipped, used from Japan directly from a US Soldier.. (they "were" a mess, all 4 curbed and covered in rusting brake dust)I don't want to get into what they would be "new"....lol... All i'm saying is be weary of weight and why, the rest, well, that's your baby... lol..
Re: (Sublimewind)
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:04 am
by ou.grizzly
Quote, originally posted by Sublimewind »1100 shipped, used from Japan directly from a US Soldier.. (they "were" a mess, all 4 curbed and covered in rusting brake dust)I don't want to get into what they would be "new"....lol... All i'm saying is be weary of weight and why, the rest, well, that's your baby... lol..And the new ones are around $600-$700 new per rim.
Re: (ou.grizzly)
Posted: Tue Feb 03, 2009 10:02 pm
by Sublimewind
Yes they are... and i'm not EVEN saying(or implying) go buy Volks.... I'm just saying, be weary of weight.. Vibers are gas misers, seems economy rules over all, so adding weight there WILL make the car work harder.. just sayin..