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Winners and Losers - 2008

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 4:35 am
by jake75
And so long as there are still recounts underway from the November elections, I would like to retroactively change my vote for the 2002 Car of the Year. It rightfully goes to the 2009 Pontiac G8. Yes, General Motors is late to the party again, but consider buying one of these anachronistic V-8 gas guzzlers, because if the company needs more bailout money, your tax dollars will be paying for one anyway.Full article - http://www.nytimes.com/2008/12...?_r=1

Re: Winners and Losers - 2008 (jake75)

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 6:44 am
by ramenboy...
hmmm... pretty interesting... lets see... chrysler sebring. the big loser. +1bmw 1 series... worst premium sports car. +1 makes sense. why charge about the same price for a 1 that you charge for a 3 series? i don't agree at all w/what he said about the g8 though. all the critics talk about how tight a car it is and how it basically spanks the bmw 5 series for a fracction of the price, and he calls it the worst large car? then he turns around and says the 5 is the best premium-class car? i don't get it.

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 2:46 pm
by Neouka
A bit contradictory at times, but he lost all credibility when he said he liked the Mini Clubman. That thing is an utter travesty. No thanks.

Re: Winners and Losers - 2008 (jake75)

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 3:45 pm
by shemp
I struggle to think of a less credible source for automotive information than the New York Times. This guy is clearly speaking to an audience that knows little about cars. From what I read, this article is pretty much based on the authors personal preference with little regard to empirical information. The BMW 1-Series for example... he says "how can you charge a 3-Series price for a car that is less, in every way?" ... by "3-series price" he must mean "1998 3-series price." There is approximately $5000 difference between comparably equipped 1 and 3 series. Furthermore, the 1 series is smaller than the 3, that's true, but it outperforms it's bigger brother in almost every measurable way. Rubbish I say.

Re: Winners and Losers - 2008 (shemp)

Posted: Tue Dec 30, 2008 8:29 pm
by KNINE
Quote, originally posted by shemp »I struggle to think of a less credible source for automotive information than the New York Times. I would say that goes for all information.