intake stutter? HELP!

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Post by philndz »

I have continued testing it this morning and so far everything is perfect....haha!!!! this thing is pretty darn sweet for the price of a couple tanks of gas!
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quote:Congratulations... Thanks silver...ive been runnin around in all day and im very impressed!
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Re: intake stutter? HELP! (philndz)

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Those tamks of gas will com ein handy and surpass the savings, soon!Especially if you have a right foot like mine! Congrats! Gald you got it to work.
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Re: intake stutter? HELP! (philndz)

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quote: the good news is: I installed the intake this morning and it WORKS AWESOME!!! to all who said it couldn't be done: Congrats!!! we had confidence in you! cool aint it.
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quote:Congrats!!! we had confidence in you! cool aint it. Thanks SCHERRY for the late-night help you provided when i was pullin my hair out!! It is always comforting to know you have the GENVIBE crew behind ya. You all ROCK!
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Re: intake stutter? HELP! (philndz)

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thats what we are here for.
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Post by dmitri »

i knew that it would work...a cai is just a stupid tube made of shiney metal. The sensor does have to be in the right position but im sure whoever makes it at least looked at how it was positioned on a real CAI to see how to put it in. If it was bad he would get alot of negative feedback.
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Post by philndz »

really not too worried about the filter....when it gets somewhat used and dirty i will replace it w/ one that has an opening on the inside also (this one has a chromed end cap and only takes air from the outside) I have that ram-air tube directed to the filter but when i get a open-inside filter i will line that tube up w/ the inside-cone and just shove cold ram air into it!!
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Re: intake stutter? HELP! (philndz)

Post by Kissfan79 »

How exactly do you have the scoop set up under your hood? Can you snap a picture? I got way curious when you said you had it set up (the scoop blowing cold air onto your short ram). Congrats BTW.Jim
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quote:Can you snap a picture? -JimI'll see what i can do...hard to see it w/ the battery in place now...i pulled out the old tubing from behind the battery so it sits in there....see if i can a pic....hold short!
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pic of the ram air intake

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Re: intake stutter? HELP! (philndz)

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here it is in place...gonna paint the white part black!

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Re: intake stutter? HELP! (philndz)

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It's a damn dryer vent! (removed)!
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HEHE!! you bet!! works pretty sweet too!
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Re: intake stutter? HELP! (philndz)

Post by ragingfish »

Something seems so wrong with this...but then again, it seems kinda similar to Geo's home-grown intake...but, I suppose if it helps a bit, it can't be all that bad, no? It is filtered, right?
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quote:It is filtered, right?

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Post by ragingfish »

Ok, so you have the filter in the engine, how does the lower scoop work into the equation?
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The scoop has the piping that you can see in the pic and that pumps all the way up behind the headlight and spews that air right out at the filter. When i get an OPEN-END filter i will be able to secure the end of the piping right up against the open end filter and jam the air right in there....my guess is then i will really see major gains!! RAMMED COLD AIR!!
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The downside of this compared to a CAI is that at idle and low speeds I have engine compartment air for the most part but get the air flowing when over about 40mph and wham-bam this thing is cooooo!and of course at 70, 80, 90+ mph on the highway it really pumps!!
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Post by ragingfish »

Ohhhhhh....ok, I get it now!
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It could probably be done w/ a CAI like yours and get major gains!You should try it Mike....It only cost me about $8 total! and it can come off real quick too!
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I'm not sure how that would work...my filter is already down by the fog housing...not much I can change with it...
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Post by philndz »

just use the vent to catch the air coming through the grille and re-direct it right to your filter...if you have an open end filter then secure the piping right up to that open end and you'll have major AIR!hehe....no pressure.....but i would like to see someone w/ a CAI try it and see what differences it makes. especially if they can secure the hose to an open end filter.
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Perhaps a weekend project for me...hmmm....
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does the injen have that open end style filter?
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haven't a clue.
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quote:does the injen have that open end style filter?No, but I plan to buy a K&N open end cone filter when the Injen one gets dirty.
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Quote"i got this for $40 and im not sending it back b/c even though the seller sold me the wrong intake...he wont pay shipping back and he also wont guarantee a refund when he recieves it....just sounds too risky to me. so i just left bad feedback and im keeping the intake....just dont know whether to put it on again now that i know what i did wrong. im thinking what if i do it right this time and it still screws up!" Ebay feedback "Auction was flawed & item fit different car - wants me pay ship back. BAD SELLER". _______So you bought this great intake on ebay and left the guy bad feedback when the intake you took a risk on didn't seem to work right because you did something wrong or your MAF was oiled. It's not just a coincidence that the car had a weird problem the moment you disconnected the stock intake. The seller(I have no connection) offered to take it back if like new. You were pissed he wouldn't pay shipping and left him bad feedback. It works and he was still going to accomidate you. Your hurting him for offering a good cheap product. It's kinda like slander and you may prevent another vibe owner from buying the same. He now lists it as a gt product (I can guess why) when it apparently works on both.
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quote:So you bought this great intake on ebay and left the guy bad feedback when the intake you took a risk on didn't seem to work right because you did something wrong or your MAF was oiled. It's not just a coincidence that the car had a weird problem the moment you disconnected the stock intake. The seller(I have no connection) offered to take it back if like new. You were pissed he wouldn't pay shipping and left him bad feedback. It works and he was still going to accomidate you. Your hurting him for offering a good cheap product. It's kinda like slander and you may prevent another vibe owner from buying the same. He now lists it as a gt product (I can guess why) when it apparently works on both.whoa! You dont have to be an a**hole about it! Firstly, if you are going to argue then get your facts right. This was an intake that he had been selling for the matrix XRS for a while....he must have found out that the vibe is the same as the matrix and so he started an auction for the vibe before he researched enough to know that not all vibes have the same engine as the XRS. So when i saw the auction i assumed (maybe i shouldnt have) that he was now making it for the base engine. when i got the intake it was clearly marked as being for the matrix XRS. I let him know of his mistake and that moron told me that he was sorry about the mistake but i should look it up on yahoo and see if there are any instructions on how to make it fit my car! uh....i was asking for a refund dummy! so he then says well you can send it back and pay the shipping charge even though this was all his mistake in the first place and then he might give a refund.....uh....so i could end up paying for the intake and paying shipping twice and possibly not have a damn thing....i dont think so!secondly! THIS INTAKE DOES NOT FIT MY CAR!!! I MADE IT FIT MY CAR. do not buy it unless you want to get very creative in the way everything mounts together! and finally...the reason he lists it as a GT product is b/c it IS! it was always listed as an XRS product and does not fit the base engine so he realized his mistake when selling as a vibe intake and corrected it by labeling as a GT intake.i dont want to discourage base owners from buying this product....but i think they ought to know that it has to be adjusted and modified to get it to fit!! Now that you know the facts....do you have a problem? I think this is pretty straight forward.
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He was going to take it back. Thats all he needs to do. I didn't call you names but one of us is what you said. You really really it like it but you left him bad feedback. Sounds fair to me. You jumped the gun when you screwed your car and blamed him before you had the correct info and fixed it. It's obvious you pack some venom. I have over 100 posotive feedbacks on ebat and 0 neg. He was useing established ebay procedures.
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quote:_______So you bought this great intake on ebay and left the guy bad feedback when the intake you took a risk on didn't seem to work right because you did something wrong or your MAF was oiled. It's not just a coincidence that the car had a weird problem the moment you disconnected the stock intake. The seller(I have no connection) offered to take it back if like new. You were pissed he wouldn't pay shipping and left him bad feedback. It works and he was still going to accomidate you. Your hurting him for offering a good cheap product. It's kinda like slander and you may prevent another vibe owner from buying the same. He now lists it as a gt product (I can guess why) when it apparently works on both.WOW is this not the place for this post !!!!we offer opinions, help, a kind word, but we do not fight and slam another vibe owner. the man/woman stated a problem he had. after he posted feedback, he got it to work with our help. as a mater of fact i helped him late into the night on this site. Not everyone is perfect
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*ahem*...silence...GROUP HUG!!!!
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quote:We are all human here, but if you make a mistake, you should admit it and fix it and not have someone else pay for your mistake.. In this case, Phil would have to pay shipping..End of argument.. Not exactly. It's actually common practice in corporate America to make the buyer pay return shipping, even if you make a mistake. I ordered a part from Gateway computers, I told them what I wanted, they said no problem and sent it. Well, what I told them I wanted isn't what they sent. I called them, they said sure, we'll take it back, but you have to pay the shipping back to us, and we don't refund the shipping cost you paid up front. So I could either return it, and end up with no money back (and possibly even more out of pocket), or just throw it out, which I did. Only cost me $10, but it's an absurd policy.Sad, but true, it is not uncommon. Not fair, not right, but not uncommon.
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philndz, Sorry I was harsh. I still feel that you shouldn't have left him neg feedback when you could have returned it for the price of a beer when you new it was wrong before you installed. I admit I was wrong about the GT vs base thing. It was your chance to take and I'm glad it worked out for you. By the way, if you get a cel in the future I believe you can reset the ecu by pulling the EFI fuses in the fuse box. There are 2 and I don't know which it is, I just pull them both.
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no offense taken.....thats a great tip w/ the fuses thx!
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philndz, congratz on making it work! I'm happy your problem's resolved. Honestly, this will make me think long and hard about which intake I buy in the future. $50 for a working ram-air intake is a steal and would allow me to use the saved $$ on something else.By the way, do you have any idea what brand name this intake is?
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no clue on the brand....just generic but well worth the $
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Hmm, it looks like a Bomz intake, which I don't think come marked, etc.
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(removed) its online sh*t talk why does everyone take it so harsly...? its online...
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that ram air still working?
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quote:Hmm, it looks like a Bomz intake, which I don't think come marked, etc.ahhh....yes...sorry. It is a BOMZ intake.and yes the ram air is great scherry, it would just be a lot better w/ an open end filter.
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quote:ahhh....yes...sorry. It is a BOMZ intake.Sweet, at least it's a brand name LOL Bomz RacingDirect Car Parts is their exclusive online distributor, although they also list the following:2kracing.comautodirectsave.comstreetstyler.bizautosportz.combnnauto.combtpautoparts.comcarsoption.comcekretperformance.comdirectcarparts.neteautoworks.comeracingzone.comgrounddynamics.comimport-avenue.comimportvasion.comjdmracing.comnextcollection.comprolightstar.comraceapeel.comshop.store.yahoo.com/racinglabshophyperformance.comshowonly.netshowtrix.comstreet-customs.comstreetstyler.comtspracing.comzenmotorsports.comhave fun!
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The seller has confirmed that this intake is in fact made by Bomz.
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