Did you get your Recall done on your 2009-10 Vibe? (Poll)

[jd521]

Had mine down 10 days ago. No previous problems and NONE since the shim placed on the accelerator pedal cable. All has been asit was- Have 32,000 + miles. Took the dealership about 30 minutes to complete. Still have the wife's Black Vibe GT to do yet. She has 5,800 miles with no problems. Dealer did not remove floor mats as the clips to secure the driver's floor mat is perfect. Dealership believes any issues are software/electrical type issue and NOT mechanical. The JURY is still OUT on this one. Good Luck to All.

[blamster]

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[JetBlack09VibeGT]

Quote, originally posted by blamster »I never ever ever been late on a car payment to GMAC but I bet if I didnt make 1 single payment I would get hammered..A few weeks back a Class Action Law Suit was filed against Toyota, demanding that Toyota makes the payments on customers vehicles, citing "Until they make it safe, people shouldn't have to pay their lease payments and shouldn't have to make their bank payments. Let Toyota pick that up." and for Toyota to pick up the monthly payment tab is because all this recall hysteria has hurt the value of the cars in question. Frankly, and long term, that might be the most interesting point of all. The suit also claims that Toyota has previously "destroyed potentially incriminating documents" and wants the court put a stop to the alleged practice. http://www.autoblog.com/2010/0...s-act/

[JetBlack09VibeGT]

(Reuters) - Toyota Motor Corp said a partial review of complaints of unintended acceleration after vehicles were repaired had found no evidence of failure in the electronic throttle system or the fixes.U.S. | Hot StocksToyota, which has recalled more than 6 million vehicles in the U.S. due to loose floor mats that can jam the accelerator and gas pedals that do not spring back as designed, said this week that it has fixed more than 1 million cars.However, U.S. regulators said they are reviewing more than 60 complaints that fixes made on the recalled vehicles had not solved the problem."It may be difficult to find out whether there are really problems with the cars or not. It may take time to settle the dispute," said Koji Endo, auto analyst at Advanced Research Japan. "I am afraid Toyota's brand may be further damaged if it is sued by one customer after another."The U.S. sales unit of the world's largest automaker said in a statement that it had evaluated the cars and interviewed their owners and found no evidence of problems with the electronic throttle that some customers and regulators suspect could play a part in some incidents of unintended acceleration.It also said no problems had been detected in the brake override system.See Article:http://www.reuters.com/article...tcher

[blamster]

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[ou.grizzly]

Quote, originally posted by blamster »Despite assurances by Toyota executives that safety recalls are solving its potentially fatal car problems, 10 new complaints submitted to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration charge that the recall fix is not working and that problems with sudden acceleration have continued. Some drivers say the company's recall fix has not solved accelerator problem.The new post-recall complaints were first noted in a report by Safety Research & Strategies (SRS), a private research firm based in Rehoboth, Mass. Among the complaints detailed by SRS was a driver who said that even though her 2009 Toyota Matrix had its brakes and pas pedal serviced Feb. 10, the car was still uncontrollable Feb. 26. complete Story:http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/...04076That is the DBW and the Trans Shifting; when you hit the gas or brake, there is a delay in speeding up and or the trans down shifting.

[blamster]

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[blamster]

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[morbay]

Just had it done yesterday...also had the center caps fixed and replaced...no issues with the pedal before the fix, and I hope the caps stay in this time.

[blamster]

I havent received any news from GM to bring the car back to the dealer nothing. I was told that I would get a call in 48 hours on friday, then i got a call monday telling me that I m going to get a call on tuesday.ill let you guys know what they say tomorrow.

[AllWheelVibe]

So, is the 2009 and 2010 Vibe equipped with drive-by-wire actually ?Is there a write up that says why this "shim" fix is not more than a "sham"? I would like to see the root cause and corrective action report on this one. Also, how do I get a source code listing for the ECM? I deal with firmware bugs all day long. Perhaps I could be of some assistance here....!

[blamster]

no news on anything from GM they didnt call me today, Wondering what are they waiting for...on the news there's some guy with another runaway toyota.a comedian on tv said that toyota stands behind all of their cars, because if they stand infront it could be dangerous. lol

[blamster]

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[ou.grizzly]

Quote, originally posted by blamster »Today car took off on me, I was comming to a red light and a mother and her 2 kids where 5 feet away, I thoat I ran one of the kids, pulled the ebrake got the car to stop.she called the cops I called the cops,then I called GM and asked them what they wanted me to do? they said your car had the recall done already its safe to drive.if i want the car towed it would have to be to your house, and you would have to pay for it.Guys I have video I had 2 cameras set in the car, thank god.should I post the videos or get a lawyer?May I ask why are you driving with 2 cameras in the car? Did you make a police report? Did she make a police report? You should be able to easily put your vehicle in neutral and brake...

[Houston]

Post the videos.

[vibenvy]

Quote, originally posted by blamster »thanks for all the info guys. i plan on going to ziebart and getting 30% around. now i just gotta save some cash.Maybe I missed it somewhere in this post, did you experience the unintended acceleration BEFORE you had the recall done?Just curious.

[blamster]

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[ou.grizzly]

Quote, originally posted by blamster »I recorded the unintended acceleration before with my iphone but the video its not so clear, so i have 2 cameras in the car in case that it happends again. and it paid off.I normally slow down and then shift to neutral coming to a stop light, but the light was turning from yellow to red and i thoat i was going to make the light then the lady just walked in front of the damn green light, and the car was still accelerating on its own, i was in second gearand the car gunned the accelerator.and it caught me off guard cause when this thing happends its usually me going up in the gears not down.the lady didnt file anything and i didnt file any report.there was no injuries or car accident so the cops said that theres nothing that they can do. theres no 60 something and they cant file a 53 something.i called GM and they said that if i want a towwing that i would have to pay for it.and they are not going to take the car to the dealer cause the Recall was done to the car already. that there is no problem with it.and that they are going to call me on monday to find the resolution to the problem. makes no sence to me.this is the old videohttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fJY_tFY8_WAhttp ... CNCXnFA4My question is who is video taping when you are driving? A video of the instrument panel and looking towards the road would be more beneficial. Also, too bad no police report was filed on the incident, now you do not have a witness or documentation.

[star_deceiver]

Got the pedal and vacuum brake recall's done today. I can't feel any difference in pedal feel, but I do notice a springy sound when you press the pedal in and out quickly with the engine off.Quote, originally posted by blamster »I recorded the unintended acceleration before with my iphone but the video its not so clear, so i have 2 cameras in the car in case that it happends again. and it paid off.Have you called Toyota and if so, what's their opinion of the issue?

[Houston]

Post the two new videos. Ones taken with mounted cameras will not be jerking all over the place.

[blamster]

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[blamster]

ask GM to put it in writting that your car is safe to driveand tell me what they said.They told me that its all documented and if needed they would give it to me.I said i need it documented and they said that they cannot give me anything.please call them up and ask them and tell me what they told you.

[JetBlack09VibeGT]

Blamster Get a Lawyer NOW. A couple of weeks ago I was in Chicago and the local Fox News station there had a Federal Judge on with them and she said that if there is a known problem of a vehicle that makes it unsafe and this problem is known by the manufacturer AND/OR by the driver, and someone is hurt as a result, the driver is held in full liability. It is then to be determined that the driver was unaware of a problem and then the manufacturer becomes liable. If the driver knows of a problem and hasn't taken the unsafe vehicle off the road, the driver IS HELD LIABLE.

[ou.grizzly]

Quote, originally posted by blamster »on them old videos i wanted to capture the pedal accelerating on its own. I was 20 mph and the car decided to take off full speed.I had little time to react and the iphone takes a little long to start you have to hit the button then open the application then move the slider to record and then hit the record button, so you can imagine me doing all of that and the car was taking off, wife yelling in the other ear and the car infront comming closer.I reacted fast.i called a lawyer and they said that if their is no injuries that theres no case, no matter what video i have.but that my video could be of help to alot of people that already have been in an accident.so he asked me with my permission that he would contact so me friends of some attorney with some people that have pontiacs gt 09 thats been in an accident and they would use the video.I dont mind at this point helping somebody. GM never helped me..... so why should I help them?I was told that there is a lady now in a wheel chair because of GM and they dont care about anything but the $$$ and she drove a 09 Pontiac vibe GT What concerns me is you are driving a vehicle that you state is "unsafe" and is a manual transmission that requires you do shift with your right hand, keeping your left hand on the steering wheel. Seems to me when you are doing this, you are videotaping this with your phone in your right hand....

[Houston]

Will we ever see those two videos that were taken with mounted cameras?

[blamster]

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[vibedrivermatt]

Quote, originally posted by gimmegimme »Actually, there is measuring. This article at thetruthaboutcars.com shows how the fix is done.wow that article is pretty disheartening. I don't completely understand how that thing works, just that its flawed. When can I have a denso pedal installed please? haven't brought vibe in yet but guess I'll go in for my crappy shim fix for now.

[JetBlack09VibeGT]

Here's an interesting story. Seems the guy with the runaway Prius faked the whole ordeal to get out of his car payment and other debts. Official investigation of runaway Prius begins to answer questions by John Neff (RSS feed) on Mar 15th 2010 at 9:58AMA joint investigation by the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration and Toyota into the highly publicized incident last week of a runaway 2008 Toyota Prius near San Diego, CA may begin to answer questions raised after the owner's credibility was challenged. In particular, the brakes reportedly exhibit a pattern of wear that's inconsistent with the story told by the vehicle's owner, James Sikes. According to a draft memo written for the Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, the condition of the brakes suggests that they "weren't applied at full force over a sustained period at high speeds" reports the Wall Street Journal, but rather "the driver may have intermittently applied moderate pressure on the brakes."Representatives from NHTSA and Toyota also couldn't duplicate the sudden unintended acceleration in testing that was allegedly experienced in the same car last week, though Sikes' lawyer claims these findings are not surprising: "I don't think that is surprising insofar as NHTSA has never been able to recreate these events and Toyota has denied that they even occur."Finally, Sikes said after the incident that his accelerator pedal was stuck to the floor and he was braking hard at the same time. His particular Prius, however, is fitted with a brake override system that cuts engine power if the accelerator pedal and brake are applied at the same time. Investigators from both NHTSA and Toyota reportedly tried to recreate the same scenario with the vehicle in question and failed due to the brake override system performing as it was intended.Toyota has announced a press conference for later today to share more of the investigation's results, which will likely further erode confidence in Sikes and his story. Some experts have questioned why Sikes didn't follow the advice of a 911 operator and shift his Prius into Neutral, as well as his explanation later of being afraid that the car would flip if he took it out of Drive. Also, Jalopnik.com reported last week that Sikes is some $700,000 in debt as well as behind on lease payments for the Prius in question. Puzzling behavior and circumstantial evidence aside, this investigation appears to offer the first hard evidence that what happened on Interstate 8 last week may not have been Toyota's fault.Source: Wall Street Journal, CNN, Jalopnik

[blamster]

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[Houston]

How about you showing us even one of those videos taken with the mounted camera?There's something about this thread that raises red flags with me.

[JetBlack09VibeGT]

Quote, originally posted by Houston »There's something about this thread that raises red flags with me. Agreed, I've driven just about every mass produced car available in the US, seriously, you name it I've driven it, and the only vehicle that has goofy acceleration is the Toyota when using cruise control. The thing I noticed most is the fact that the car will rapidly accelerate if you tap the brakes while using cruise or taking on hill. Add in the fact that most reports are showing that the Toyota vehicles that are producing these symptoms have over 30K miles and are automatics makes me a bit suspect to this thread.Can we please see the mounted camera videos?

[blamster]

Ill post the videos on Wednesday, if these people dont help me out.The problem is the ECM like i said before.doesnt matter if its a auto or a manual.My cars:I had 240 nissan sx 93 brand new from that year 5 speeda superchiken 95 thunderbird supercharged 5 speedhonda civic 95 hb dx 5 speed honda prelude 99 base 5 speed and the last car pontiac vibe gt 5 speed.all of my friends are mechanics.I am the only one that choose to go into the computer world.they all agree thats the computer but they cannot touch the car because its under warranty.http://drtracing.com/

[JetBlack09VibeGT]

Toyota being sued for full refund of recalled vehiclesby Jeremy Korzeniewsk"When we talked with Toyota owners, they all voiced the same desire – to drive the car back to the lot, hand them the keys and pick up a check." So says Steve Berman, a lawyer from Seattle who has filed a class action lawsuit against Toyota on behalf of "dozens" of owners in Arizona and Washington. Fat chance, right?Not so fast, answers Berman. "Fortunately, we think the law allows for exactly that solution, and we are asking the courts to make it happen." While this isn't nearly the first class action suit filed against Toyota since revelations of the car's possible tendency to accelerate out of control, it is the first such case that seeks a full refund for each car sold.According to The San Francisco Chronicle, most such suits are only seeking to get back around $500 per owner, or roughly the amount Kelley Blue Book believes the average Toyota has lost in resale value due to allegations the vehicles are unsafe. That would equal more than $3 billion. Berman's suit, though, could add up to many times that amount if successful.Even if Berman's would-be class action suit fails, Toyota may be in for more rough times courtesy of the Attorneys Toyota Action Consortium (ATAC), which is adding racketeering claims to a number of its lawsuits. Northeastern University law professor Tim Howard, who is coordinating the ATAC, says, "It's become increasingly apparent that Toyota profits were not built on quality products, but on a willful pattern of deception, fraud and racketeering."In any case, a group of federal judges in San Diego will meet in one week to determine whether the 110 or so class action suits against Toyota should be combined into one single case and whether that case should proceed to trial. We'll be watching.Source: San Francisco Chronicle via Inside Line

[blamster]

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[kowell]

Well,Got the recall done today.There is definitly less resistance in the gas pedal.At first it was almost scary, I would catch a good bump on the road and the shock would send my foot down on the accelerator. I got 2 or 3 unintended acceleration like that and I was really scared/concerned. Then I remembered they had stuck my floor mat in the trunk so I put them both back in place (standard summer mat + bulky winter mat) and it solved most of the problem. Both mats together raises my foot by almost an inch so I'm used to pressing the middle/top of the accelerator and without them I was pressing against the bottom of the pedal. There is still a feeling that the pedal has less resistance than before but it's more easy to manage. There will be an adaptation period but so far I think it should be OK.I'm still baffled by the fact GM says they don't have a fix for the mat problem yet. Toyota has been cutting gas pedals for almost 2 months now to resolve this problem. Since they are already removing the pedal assembly to add the metal insert, they could have just cut it at the same time.

[enfield577]

I have put 150 miles on my '09 Vibe GT since getting the pedal recall done. I thought at first that there was a slight delay in acceleration when I put my foot on the pedal, but either I was mistaken, or this went away, or I got so used to it that I don't notice it now. I don't notice any difference in the pedal feel, from before the recall work.I can't tell you how long it took to do the work. The dealer told me mine was the first one they had done, and it took them 2.5 hours (while I waited) to do the initial measurement, then they had to order the correct spacer. When it came in (2 days) I just left the car with them overnight for them to do the work the next day. My car took the 2.30mm spacer (GM part number 89027394).I took the floor mat out myself before I dropped the car off, then I put it back in as soon as I picked the car up. As long as the stock floor mat is correctly caught on the hooks, I can't see a floor mat issue.

[kowell]

Well.... It's been 5 days and I'm definitly going back to the dealer. This car is dangerous. The gas pedal is way to loose. Every time I take a bump on the road or if I move my feet on the pedal, it will press it down a little and the car will launch forward. This isn't safe.

[vibenvy]

My mom and I will not be getting the recall done at this time. I do not trust any dealer to be taking the gas pedal completely out of the car and messing around with it. We have had no issues, but have gone over what to do in case anything does happen. Neither one of us are worried about anything happening. I still think it is driver error or people being retarded and not knowing how to use their cruise control or something goofy like that. I definitely don't think a little metal shim is going to do anything positive.

[Silversn95]

You are not alone. The dealer has called us a couple times asking for us to make an appointment. I'm not planning on doing it either since I really don't believe the metal shim is correcting the root cause of the problem, just reducing the symptom. If Toyota/GM were serious about this we would be getting new pedal assemblies either correctly manufactured or a new design. This $0.20 bandaid is a joke.

[JetBlack09VibeGT]

Quote, originally posted by Silversn95 » If Toyota/GM were serious about this we would be getting new pedal assemblies either correctly manufactured or a new design. This $0.20 bandaid is a joke.The pedal supplier for Toyota is only capable of just barely meeting the production demand of 3 million units for Toyota, they can't make parts for Toyota and fix the millions of bad ones out there too. That would put Toyota out of business. Here is a small problem that you should keep in the back of your mind. Since your dealer has made attempts to get you to perform this NHTSA recall and you choose not to and you or your vehicle is involved in an accident, you will be held personally liable while Toyota/GM will be free and clear.

[Silversn95]

Quote, originally posted by JetBlack09VibeGT »The pedal supplier for Toyota is only capable of just barely meeting the production demand of 3 million units for Toyota, they can't make parts for Toyota and fix the millions of bad ones out there too. That would put Toyota out of business. Here is a small problem that you should keep in the back of your mind. Since your dealer has made attempts to get you to perform this NHTSA recall and you choose not to and you or your vehicle is involved in an accident, you will be held personally liable while Toyota/GM will be free and clear.OK chicken little, the sky is not falling. I'm not worried if my Vibe decides to take off on me since I have a little common sense and can deal with it if (and that is a big if) it ever happens. It is not my fault that Toyota/GM has a design and/or supplier manufacturing (quality) issue and I don't accept their $0.20 shim as the permanent fix since it isn't correcting the root cause. Hell, there have already been reports of recalled cars repeating the issue. The correct fix, if it is truely a mechanical issue, is a new assembly either made correctly the first time or a better design without the 'wear' concern. Supplier capacity issues are not my problem as the end customer and nobody should accept that as an excuse for this 'fix'. I'll wait it out and see what unfolds. My guess is this isn't over for Toyota.

[Houston]

I just saw on CNBC that Toyota will replaced the gas pedal assembly for those disatisfied with repairs.

[JetBlack09VibeGT]

Quote, originally posted by Houston »I just saw on CNBC that Toyota will replaced the gas pedal assembly for those disatisfied with repairs.Who thinks 99% of Toyota owners are going to claim disatisfaction?

[Houston]

Who's talking about 99% of Toyota owners? There are at least two people who post on this board who will take their Vibes back for this new unit.

[gimmegimme]

Quote, originally posted by Houston »Who's talking about 99% of Toyota owners? There are at least two people who post on this board who will take their Vibes back for this new unit.Ah, but who said anything about GM offering to replace the pedal assembly?

[Kincaid]

Quote, originally posted by kowell »Well.... It's been 5 days and I'm definitly going back to the dealer. This car is dangerous. The gas pedal is way to loose. Every time I take a bump on the road or if I move my feet on the pedal, it will press it down a little and the car will launch forward. This isn't safe.Just make sure you take out the double mats before you take it in, or they'll give you crap about that or blame you.I'm not taking mine in anytime soon. I got a manual transmission and I know what to do. I don't think the shim is needed and I don't want them to cut my pedal.

[kowell]

Quote, originally posted by Kincaid »Just make sure you take out the double mats before you take it in, or they'll give you crap about that or blame you.I'm not taking mine in anytime soon. I got a manual transmission and I know what to do. I don't think the shim is needed and I don't want them to cut my pedal.Good point....it would be nice if the new pedal thing applied to Vibe owners as well since I would definitly ask for one seeing as the recall ruined my pedal but I have doubts on that.... http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/201...ecall

[09viber]

just had my bandaid put on, left the double mats in they said nothing. pedal seems more touchy yet les responsive

[kowell]

I contacted GM to ask if they would offer the same deal as Toyota and replace the accelerator for people unhappy with the new feel of their gas pedal. They answered me some generic crap on how I should not worry about this Toyota commotion and that I would be contacted if my car was affected by the recall... A great answer to a different question from the one I asked.

[Houston]

Still waiting for your videos, blamster.