Thank you Kostby for the info. When we went to the dealer yesterday she gave us some printouts of all the pricing on a vehicle that was at another dealer. It has the GMS price, Supplier, and an whole bunch of other prices on it. It looks like she was giving us the supplier price without even asking ...

Yeah it's a front wheel drive. The first dealer we went to was awesome, she gave us printouts of invoices from what was availabe at all dealers in town and then she did the pricing on what we wanted. That was when she came up with the $248 a month for 72. We then went and drove the very one she just...

On Edmunds.com they have a Town Hall area where there a a lot of posts for different cars. The Vue has quite a bit up there. Also saturnfans.com has a lot, I think that is about all I found.

I have read that people are having problems with the Vti on the Vue. That is why we were going for the manual in the Vue. A dealer close to us has like 30 of them in and is having a big special with the smartbuy option right now. Yes they do make you pay $250 if you want to give it back after the 47...

That smartbuy also includes 15,000 miles a year, so it is like a lease.

I haven't heard anything about whether the smartbuy is good or not. We figured it would help us lower payments and then if we don't like the car we can just get rid of it in 4 years. You can pay like $250 and just let GM have it back or if it's worth more you can try selling it on your own and make ...

Yeah the Vue has a little more room and with the smartbuy is affordable but it's just the little things that make the vibe nicer. Like the seats folding flat, the interior being just nicer to look at, and the hard plastic cargo area. We have been looking around for about 2 months and have really sta...

We drove a manual for the first time today and it was great. Very smooth and you can really work the gears, makes me feel like I'm driving a sports car. Not that I've really driven a sports car, but hey it handles great!

As for the Vue, we like it also. But we were gonna get the manual 4cylinder so that we could afford. We like the feel of the vibe better plus in 4 years we'll probably have more kids and the wife will need a bigger vehicle and then I get to drive the vibe. (Yippeee!!!) I guess that's what marriage i...

Yeah the grad discount was ended on Jan. 31. Tried that one. We went to 3 dealers today in the Kansas City area and only one had any manual's like we want. Are they very popluar? We were hoping to get a Certified used one but the only one in the KC area was sold an hour before we got there. Oh well!!

My wife and I have finally decided that the Vibe is the car for us. It came down to a Vue or Vibe. The problem now is that I have never bought a new car before and have no experience haggling. Our budget is tight being newly married, 3 month old and a new job after just graduating. But we are pretty...