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I sent an email to Stafford Fabricators about them turbo charging the 2zz engine. and here is my email and their response.Me:Stafford Fabrication,I'm interested in purchasing your turbo kit for my 2003 pontiac vibe GT (2zz-fe), I have some concerns regarding your products.1. Have you installed and tested this kit on the Vibe GT/Matrix XRS?2. The compression ratio on the 2zz engine is 11.5:1, which is too high to force feed/turbo/supercharge. Do you include low compression pistons/rods in your kit?3. Is there any kind of warranty on your product and if so, what are the terms and conditions?4. As far as the ECU goes, do you have a "Plug and Play ECU" that you provide with the kit?5. If you haven't done any installs on a GT/XRS, I would be interested in you using my car as a "prototype". I've talked to a member of genvibe.com who has your turbo on his base vibe, and he swears by your company. I'm currently located in the Dallas area but I am willing to travel for the install/testing.Stafford Fabrication:We have the Vibe GT with the 2zz scheduled to come in for prototyping in about 4 weeks. We have already done the 2zz motor in a celica GTS, so the prototyping should not take very long.The motor takes to boost rather well. Even though it is a high compression motor, we have been running 8 psi on the GTS without pulling out any timing, and running it on 91 octane pump gas.Our kits have a 3 year warantee on all manufactured parts, and a 1 year warantee on the turbo. We will replace the turbo manifold if it breaks as long as you did not use any header wrap on it.Right now, we use a piggyback signal conditioner that allows us to fine tune the fuel curve. We developed a fuel system for the non-return line cars that has proven to work very well. The piggyback just allows you to add or remove fuel wherever you feel it is necessary.I also sent this reply and will post the info they send when I receive it from them.Me again:Would the new "Unichip" be able to replace the piggyback system you use?

Hmm....easy to use turbo-kit for Vibe...I want!

DITTO!!faultline knows where they are located, but I would drive to canada to get one!!

The kit is $3299.99 I think on a GT celica it was making I think 215HP and on a XR/Vibe not sure wich one was 205HP not bad. I wold go with turbo over supercharger thats 35HP more than SC does their price include instalation though?

they are claiming 350 whp with the turbo on the 2zz(Vibe GT) engine. which is majorly impressive!!!

Quote, originally posted by drummerdude »they are claiming 350 whp with the turbo on the 2zz(Vibe GT) engine. which is majorly impressive!!!Designed for both stock and modified engines. The turbo kit can provide you with a mild 4 psi for daily driving on your stock motor (this is most people here) , or provide you with an insane 18 psi for highly modified race cars (this is not everyone) so would expect 220's.XR Matrix:Dyno tested to 205 whp on 6 psi, this gives more than enough power to give anyone a grin

that is for the 1zz-fe engine a.k.a. base vibe/xr.i'm referring to the 2zz engine a.k.a. GT/XRS. to date there aren't any that have been produced for our platform. so this is a big deal!!

Well according to the website its available fot the GT here see for yourself. it says 2001+ Vibe GThttp://www.staffordfabrication...u=305It appears to be the same kit as the Vibe/Matrix (base/XR) the only difference that I see is that the XR is the only one that has been put on a dyno.

So where would this put us with the PT Turbo and the Subaru ? Definitely salivating over this!

Quote, originally posted by wicked1981 »Well according to the website its available fot the GT here see for yourself. it says 2001+ Vibe GTThat was why i posted this info, to let genvibe members know that there is a new turbo out for our GT's

The turbo kit includes:4-1 tubular manifold for maximum drivability and horsepowerGarrett T3 ar.60 Turbo to allow for horsepower numbers exceeding 350 whp (turbo upgrades available) 2.5 inch downpipe for maximum flow (hooks to stock exhaust location)SF PFM Fuel System to provide the much needed fuel for the extra boostSF Billet Aluminum Fuel Rail Center feed to eliminate pressure spikes and pulsesSF Intercooler: a 19"x9"x3" core with TIG welded aluminum tanksMandrel Bent Intercooler Piping powdercoated to any of the 250+ colors we have.TCC Works Type I Blow Off Valve just for the intimidation factorSteel Braided Oil feed lines and fittings to privide your turbo with much needed lubrication3/4" drain line and pan fitting SF's "no weld" pan fitting bolts directly to the panTurbo Kits starting at just $3299.99

drool.... drool... drool.... man, but $3300 is a lot to dish out on my vibe. i've already spent about $4K on a/m parts already.... so, that's another big chunk. plus, would REALLY like to pay off bills so i can move out.... guess it'll have to wait until AFTER my warranty is gone.

I want boost! I want a turbo. Once everybodys warrenty comes up and they get enough money these will sell like hot cakes. Watch out evo! hehe

Quote, originally posted by wicked1981 »Well according to the website its available fot the GT here see for yourself. it says 2001+ Vibe GThttp://www.staffordfabrication...u=305It appears to be the same kit as the Vibe/Matrix (base/XR) the only difference that I see is that the XR is the only one that has been put on a dyno.They need to fix their web page a little ..we all know that there is no such thing as a 2001, or 2002 vibe, but the guy who put down the web page info equated "Celica GT" with "Vibe GT"...the kit they now have is the base Vibe They have been worrking hard over ther w/ celicas. Its celica gt , and celica gt-s; then Vibe and Vibe gt, but the Vibe GT is the 2zz , and the Celica gt is the 1zz...it is confusing.

Quote, originally posted by wicked1981 »The kit is $3299.99 I think on a GT celica it was making I think 215HP and on a XR/Vibe not sure wich one was 205HP not bad. I wold go with turbo over supercharger thats 35HP more than SC does their price include instalation though? You know they are only a 90 minute drive from oxnard ! and a 50minute drive home

Quote, originally posted by drummerdude »they are claiming 350 whp with the turbo on the 2zz(Vibe GT) engine. which is majorly impressive!!!I believe the 350 whp is what the fuel kit and turbo are capable of. You would need to build your motor, though, to do this.They going to have some more hard #'s out when they take the 2zz Celica GT-S to a Dyno Shoot Out in a couple of weeks

Quote, originally posted by Faultline »You know they are only a 90 minute drive from oxnard ! and a 50minute drive home Its not the drive im concerned about its the $3,300+ that I would be spending. I am interested though but I think I will try to get the turbo after my warranty is expired since I only had the car for about 2 1/2 months... Dont want to break anything (yet) and not be covered under the warranty.

Quote, originally posted by wicked1981 »Its not the drive im concerned about its the $3,300+ that I would be spending. I am interested though but I think I will try to get the turbo after my warranty is expired since I only had the car for about 2 1/2 months... Dont want to break anything (yet) and not be covered under the warranty.But on the otherhand, if you are going to spend 3k on you car buying a turbo kit, why not enjoy it for the whole life of the car?

It would be nice if this was available to us folks up North for the same price, shipping the turbo out here would break alot of our banks...not to mention my marriage, considering that SF has an operational one it's ashame that no one in Canada offers something simular.

so, stop me if im wrong, for 3k your turboed gt will be as fast as a tuboed base????

turboed base - 200hpturboed gt (w/o fuel system) 250hpturboed gt (with fuel system) 350hp

sweet! thanks for getting the info for us. keep us informed!

i will

For all of you worried about your warranty being cancelled due to the addition of a turbo I have the solution: Pay for a turbo to put in my non-warrantied Vibe and I'll make the personal sacrifice of having boost in my car. Everybodies happy (Except the Hondas in Pensacola )

You guys sure about the 350 hp thing, I think that might be what the turbo is capable at most in a different engine because other than the fact that it is in the same kit as the thing for the vibe it doesn't say 350 hp from the 2zz engine

It doesn't matter, both tranny's lose there final gear at about 270HP. Lots to do if want to go past 250HP reliabley. The 2zz motor will handle this power without mods.

the tranny won't handle it or just the clutch assembley?

Quote, originally posted by Smokin' Rubber »You guys sure about the 350 hp thing, I think that might be what the turbo is capable at most in a different engine because other than the fact that it is in the same kit as the thing for the vibe it doesn't say 350 hp from the 2zz engineYoure right, that # is for people who want to build their motor.280whp is the most some one has used the kit on the 2zz with stock internals. he keeps pushing it to see how far the motor will go because he has a built one ready to go in!

Quote, originally posted by Smokin' Rubber »the tranny won't handle it or just the clutch assembley?The tranny. Usally it has been the final drive gear that breaks ..But I gues you can argue that it may be the driver.

So how many 6 speed gear boxes could take over 270 hp?

Quote, originally posted by Smokin' Rubber »So how many 6 speed gear boxes could take over 270 hp?Thats what i would like to know... and the 350 # is with a highly modified and complete rebuild of engine! pistons, rods....etc

Quote, originally posted by drummerdude »and the 350 # is with a highly modified and complete rebuild of engine! pistons, rods....etcWow that would run your credit card up a bit lol good stuff

Quote, originally posted by Smokin' Rubber »Wow that would run your credit card up a bit lol good stuff That would run it up more than a bit! The credit card co. would call and ask if your card had been stolen!

Quote, originally posted by drummerdude »The credit card co. would call and ask if your card had been stolen! Well then, maybe I'll just tell them it had been stolen just so that I wouldn't have to pay and still get my brand new 350 hp engine!

You do that and we'll see you in about 6mo-2yrs for credit card fraud!

I don't really use any of my credit cards at this point anyway lol so I doubt any are even active or within the expiration date

Quote, originally posted by Smokin' Rubber »Well then, maybe I'll just tell them it had been stolen just so that I wouldn't have to pay and still get my brand new 350 hp engine! LOL! well, something about where it's shipped to and supporting docs for something like that..... but you'd be paying for it in some way shape or form!

Oh I'm sure there are ways to get around that but I am way too lazy to go about figuring them out, and I have no time to anyway being in college while trying to start up a web and logo designing company basically keeps me up until 4:30 am every day anyway (damn 8:30 classes! )