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Audio help needed!!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:16 am
by ArcsVibe
Hello audio experts, need your help here. Just purchased a 10" Pioneer sub with the following specs:* 400 Watts Max * Nominal Power: 120 watts * 12" Speaker * Impedence: 4 ohms * Sensitivity: 90db * Frequency Response: 20-4500 Hz * 4 Layer Long Voice Coil * IMPP cone * For Sealed Enclosures ONLY My question is what wattage of amplifier do I need to power this sub? And which amplifier do you suggest?Here is a pic of the sub. As aways I thank everyone for their help!!

Re: Audio help needed!! (ArcsVibe)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:53 am
by msmyer
First off....you have a pair or just one? Are you going to build your own box?Quote, originally posted by ArcsVibe »My question is what wattage of amplifier do I need to power this sub? At least 250, what type of headunit do you have? Quote, originally posted by ArcsVibe » And which amplifier do you suggest?Rockford-Fosgate, nice products! http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/home/

Re: Audio help needed!! (msmyer)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:04 pm
by ArcsVibe
I have a Sony MP3 player 208watts (52*4) as my headunit. I have asked someone I know to build me a box, and I have only one.Give me your thoughts please!

Re: Audio help needed!! (ArcsVibe)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:20 pm
by msmyer
ok...one. what are you trying to accopmlish? Tons of bass? I mean one is great on space. Just trying to figure out what you want as a result! If you only have one i would go 250. Rockford-Fostgate carries a punch-250 which i have, and it works good with one, i also have a sony (52X4) too. http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=5184 Follow Sub-Vibe-R installing step-by-step http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=2524 Good Luck. Let me know if you need anything/help.

Re: Audio help needed!! (msmyer)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:31 pm
by ArcsVibe
Wow! Thanks for the help, really appreciate it Just want a clean, tight bass sound and yes one is enough, still want some cargo space in the back! So 250watts RMS is what you suggest? Sorry I an a newbie when it comes to stuff like this!

Re: Audio help needed!! (ArcsVibe)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:35 pm
by msmyer
Yeah...that will do it! Rockford-Fosgate.... Someone may disagree but that's my suggestion! Quote, originally posted by ArcsVibe »Sorry I an a newbiw when it comes to stuff like this! Kinda like me gettin rid of Kazaa!

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 12:56 pm
by Jahntassa
You don't want to go too high above nominal. 200 watt Mono-block (class D) amplifier will be about best. 250 if you have a 2 channel amplifier.Rockford, as far as they go, unless you find an older model, is kinda not a great thing. Infinity, Alpine, MTX, will give you really great tight bass, but make sure you match the amp to the nominal RMS.I can't think right now..so don't mind me..

Re: (Jahntassa)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 1:03 pm
by ArcsVibe
I understand bro, I will give you the rest of the night off! Better be in shape tomorrow morning though LOLGive me your thoughts later on as well

Re: (Jahntassa)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:22 pm
by msmyer
Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa »Infinity, Alpine, MTX, will give you really great tight bass, but make sure you match the amp to the nominal RMS.I can't think right now..so don't mind me.. I've also heard good things about infinity, they seem to make good products. As far as the rockford-fosgate amp, yes my is older...

Re: (msmyer)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:51 pm
by Jahntassa
Quote, originally posted by msmyer »I've also heard good things about infinity, they seem to make good products. As far as the rockford-fosgate amp, yes my is older...Obviously I wasn't thinking, I thought you were talking about Rockford subs. But yes, if you find an older (like, five years older) Rockford Punch amp, those things rule the free world. Anything newer kinda blows...Seriously though, with the power range that speaker runs at, you don't need much. Anything stated to run 200w at 4 Ohm will do more than enough to it. You can even bridge a 2 channel amp to save some money.My first subs were Pioneers, they were pretty good... You'll see though, after a while you might decide you want something a little heftier..

Re: (Jahntassa)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 9:55 pm
by msmyer
Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa »But yes, if you find an older (like, five years older) Rockford Punch amp, those things rule the free world. Anything newer kinda blows... Yep...it's about that old! And I was talking about the amp... Quote, originally posted by Jahntassa »Seriously though, with the power range that speaker runs at, you don't need much. Anything stated to run 200w at 4 Ohm will do more than enough to it. You can even bridge a 2 channel amp to save some money.Yeah...that's the way to go...Good Luck, let us know what you come up with!

Re: Audio help needed!! (ArcsVibe)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 10:56 pm
by Sub-Vibe-R
Quote, originally posted by ArcsVibe »* 400 Watts Max * Nominal Power: 120 watts * 12" Speaker * Impedence: 4 ohms * Sensitivity: 90db * Frequency Response: 20-4500 Hz * 4 Layer Long Voice Coil * IMPP cone * For Sealed Enclosures ONLY My question is what wattage of amplifier do I need to power this sub? And which amplifier do you suggest?You can go with a 100w RMS amp or something around 300w peak.BTW, almost all power amp are ratedin peak power. The only affordable company I know rating their amp in RMS power is JL Audio.MTX give you a good quality/price ratio and you can get one at Future Shop. If you want to put little more money on a amp, I would suggest you JL Audio. UNfortunatly, the smallest amp push a 250W rms, but you can decrease the gain to fit you sub.Sealed enclosure will give you a smaller box and a tighter bass.And the Pioneer IMPP sub are some of the best sub ever made for the price/quality ratio.

Re: Audio help needed!! (Sub-Vibe-R)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:28 pm
by ArcsVibe
Thank you all for your help in this matter, I really do appreciate it!Forgot to tell you guys I picked it up for 10$US!!!!!

Re: Audio help needed!! (Sub-Vibe-R)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:50 pm
by Jahntassa
Quote, originally posted by Sub-Vibe-R »You can go with a 100w RMS amp or something around 300w peak.BTW, almost all power amp are ratedin peak power. The only affordable company I know rating their amp in RMS power is JL Audio.He doesn't want to go below the RMS rating though...if he turns it up, he could blow the sub by not having enough power... Of course, if he doesn't turn it up to distortion, he won't have a problem..

Re: Audio help needed!! (ArcsVibe)

Posted: Thu Jan 29, 2004 11:53 pm
by Sub-Vibe-R
If you need help to install you amp, just ask and we can take an appointement...Just to advise you, I do not really like install stuff in a car when the car is outside and it is -20c... So it is prefered to be in an heated garage.

Re: Audio help needed!! (Sub-Vibe-R)

Posted: Sun Feb 01, 2004 4:15 am
by ArcsVibe
Salut Ben!Thanks for the offer, might hit you up on it My garage is heated, maybe once I get everything you can come over and help me ( never did it before ) install the sub and amp?Your choice of compensation A) beer and pizza B) cold hard cash!Name your price!!!Merci encore c'est tres gentiles de toi

Re: Audio help needed!! (ArcsVibe)

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 2:48 am
by Sub-Vibe-R
Beer and pizza sounds great...I have installed sub in around 10 cars up to now...It takes around 2-3 hours to do the job.

Re: Audio help needed!! (Sub-Vibe-R)

Posted: Mon Feb 02, 2004 4:47 am
by ArcsVibe
Merci Ben!!! I will let you know when I get everything.