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Supercharger Announcement

Posted: Mon Nov 10, 2003 11:01 pm
by michaelgt
News Releases November 10, 2003, 8:00 a.m. EDTGM Performance Parts Announces New 170 HP Supercharger KitDETROIT - General Motors announced today that GM Performance Parts is offering consumers a new supercharger kit for the Pontiac Vibe. With an Eaton Roots-type blower that feeds the 1.8L engine with 7.5 lbs. of boost, the engine produces 170 hp at 6,800 rpm. This powerful supercharger provides power across the entire RPM range - right away - greatly reducing the power boosting delay usually found in turbocharger kits. "When you want to make awesome horsepower and torque numbers, the supercharger is the way to go," said Gary Penn, product specialist - GM Performance Parts. "As soon as you hit the gas, you feel the power of the supercharger." The Eaton Roots-type supercharger was developed to maximize both engine horsepower and torque without sacrificing durability. With the supercharger, horsepower increases up to 30% and torque is boosted up to 18-percent versus stock trim. "The design ensures the supercharger meets GM engineering standards for performance and durability and gives it the clean, OEM look people want," Penn said.The supercharger also has its own unique vehicle control module calibration, ensuring performance, delivering over 150 lb.-ft of torque at 4,600 rpm - that's over 20 lb.- ft. more torque than the Vibe GT!Don't have a millennium to install your supercharger? No problem. "You won't have to make modifications or need a big mallet to install our supercharger," Penn said. "Because it was designed to GM's exacting specifications, everything fits precisely - allowing a trouble-free installation." The supercharger kit contains the mounting brackets, fasteners, air ducts, adapters, PCV hoses, baffle and tubes. An extra fuel injector and accessory drive belt are included and required for complete installation.The kit is only available through GM Performance Parts and can be purchased at any GM dealership under part number 12498927. Installation is also available, ask your dealer for details.Once consumers get the "go," they can seize the "show" with Pontiac Accessories. In addition to the supercharger kit, GM offers Vibe owners the option of customizing their vehicle with a sports appearance package. The "ground effects" package includes front and rear fascias, side rocker extensions and two spoilers. This package adds the same high level of performance to the looks of the Vibe as the supercharger does for the engine."The Vibe lends itself to customization and personalization, factors that many of our customers find very important," said Linda Pesonen, Vibe marketing director. "Sales of our current accessories continue to exceed our expectations and the addition of these new packages will make the Vibe even more attractive, especially to those who may not have considered a Pontiac in the past."In addition to performance, quality and safety, customers can benefit from the full promise of GM's standard new vehicle limited warranty. For superchargers installed by a GM dealer prior to delivery of a new vehicle or during the GM new vehicle limited warranty period, the warranty begins on the date of installation and continues for the balance of the new vehicle limited warranty or for 12 months/12,000 miles, whichever occurs first. Superchargers installed after the GM new vehicle limited warranty period are covered under a 12 months or 12,000 miles warranty, whichever occurs first.Consumers can purchase the new Vibe supercharger kit or the sports appearance kit from any GM dealer. To locate your nearest dealer, call 1-800-GM USE US or visit http://www.Goodwrench.com.

Re: Supercharger Announcement (michaelgt)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:19 am
by Pablo1669
quote: In addition to performance, quality and safety, customers can benefit from the full promise of GM's standard new vehicle limited warranty. For superchargers installed by a GM dealer prior to delivery of a new vehicle or during the GM new vehicle limited warranty period, the warranty begins on the date of installation and continues for the balance of the new vehicle limited warranty or for 12 months/12,000 miles, whichever occurs first. Superchargers installed after the GM new vehicle limited warranty period are covered under a 12 months or 12,000 miles warranty, whichever occurs first. it sounds like they only cover the supercharger for 12 months. Anyone else getting that out of this article? No big deal for me, since I own a GT, but I don't like that they don't cover the supercharger for the 36 month 36,000 miles that the rest of the car is covered.At least the supercharger doesn't void the rest of the warrenty, which is very nice

Re: Supercharger Announcement (Pablo1669)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:30 am
by drunkenmaxx
if the max power is at 6800, this puts it past the base's original redline, interesting.

Re: Supercharger Announcement (silverawd26)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:41 am
by slbpsi63
And the price is ........ yeah I thought they would leave that out of their press release. I officially hate GM!!!!!

Re: Supercharger Announcement (michaelgt)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:04 am
by yank dini
right on

Re: Supercharger Announcement (drunkenvibe)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:13 am
by Flip-Side
quote:if the max power is at 6800, this puts it past the base's original redline, interesting.Not to mention a gain of only 30 hp. 170 hp up from 140?! With a supercharger? What happened to 180hp?! What a waste of space and money. They raised the price and the performance gain is lower than anticipated. Great job by GM in making yet another mediocre and overpriced upgrade.

Re: Supercharger Announcement (Flip-Side)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:19 am
by drunkenmaxx
gm is toyota's b*tch.

Re: Supercharger Announcement (Flip-Side)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 3:16 am
by joatmon
I thought stock 1ZZ was rated at 130 HP, so 30% would be 39HP, putting it at 169.Torque vs HP - Doesn't torque give you acceleration and HP give you the ability to maintain a certain speed under load? mediocre and overpriced? I don't know about mediocre, it gives base or automatic owners engine stats comparable to the GT without having to replace the whole car, so if you bought the base or need auto trans and really want the power, this would be the item to get. Overpriced? $3000 and premium fuel puts it out of my budget, but some people have lots of money to mod their cars.

Re: Supercharger Announcement (slbpsi63)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 12:02 pm
by Jethro
quote:And the price is ........ yeah I thought they would leave that out of their press release. I officially hate GM!!!!! "Only" $2545 from GMPartsDirect.comhttp://www.gmpartsdirect.com/results.cfm?&part ... 2498927Too high for me to even pretend to be at all interested.

Re: Supercharger Announcement (Flip-Side)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 1:15 pm
by Larry
quote:if the max power is at 6800, this puts it past the base's original redline, interesting.Not to mention a gain of only 30 hp. 170 hp up from 140?! With a supercharger? What happened to 180hp?! What a waste of space and money. They raised the price and the performance gain is lower than anticipated. Great job by GM in making yet another mediocre and overpriced upgrade. The peak hp is increased by 30 but the biggest gain comes in the lower-power band. I have an auto Matrix and am very happy with the performance. A fellow Matrix owner and I did some real world test on a long unpopulated road. He has a 6-speed XRS with a CAI and a Magnaflow catback exhaust. In real world driving, my SC auto is quicker. Here are the results:0-60: Winner - SC Auto0-80: Winner - SC Auto0-100: Winner - XRS 6-speedTaking off from 40 in normal cruising rpm range: SC Auto (Not close)Taking off from 40 with XRS in lift or close to lift: XRS (Very close)In lift, the XRS still has more peak hp than a SC Matrix. Above 80, he had the advantage but I think it's because of the 6-speed vs. my auto more so than the engine. I've added a header-back exhuast to my car and had it tuned to correct the air/fuel ratio. Keep in mind, my car is an auto and to compete with a 6-speed XRS with intake and custom exhuast is very good. For real world driving where your rpm's are varied, the SC has a huge advantage and is very much worth it. Just the fact that I beat him off the line with an auto shows how much torque the SC adds in the lower rpms.

Re: Supercharger Announcement (Larry)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 6:56 pm
by nate66
Wow, sounds good Larry, and the $2500 price from GM Parts Direct sounds much better than the $3000 price tag that was going around. I'll be really tempted next spring.

Re: Supercharger Announcement (joatmon)

Posted: Tue Nov 11, 2003 11:07 pm
by Pablo1669
quote:I thought stock 1ZZ was rated at 130 HP, so 30% would be 39HP, putting it at 169.It is rated at only 130, so I don't know where people got 140. Also, what is all this b**ching towards GM about? It's a freakin Toyota part to begin with, and if you want more power from a supercharger, do you really think that they would release one and KEEP YOUR WARRANTY? Stop crying people. Buy an aftermarket supercharger or turbo charger if you want extreme power without a warranty. It would be insane on GM's part to release an uber powerful supercharger and cover it with a warranty. Please people, think logically on the engineering side of things, then apply that to the business side. GM would like to make money, not lose moneyAlso, all the crying about not releasing the supercharger for the 5-speed yet. Sorry GM would like to fix a problem created by the supercharger (wheel hop) rather then just release a part and make you guys suffer with crappy wheel hop. I for one would much rather wait a month or two if it ment better performance and less problems.

Re: Supercharger Announcement (Larry)

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 12:29 am
by Faultline
quote: The peak hp is increased by 30 but the biggest gain comes in the lower-power band. I have an auto Matrix and am very happy with the performance. A fellow Matrix owner and I did some real world test on a long unpopulated road. He has a 6-speed XRS with a CAI and a Magnaflow catback exhaust. In real world driving, my SC auto is quicker. Here are the results:0-60: Winner - SC Auto0-80: Winner - SC Auto0-100: Winner - XRS 6-speedTaking off from 40 in normal cruising rpm range: SC Auto (Not close)Taking off from 40 with XRS in lift or close to lift: XRS (Very close)In lift, the XRS still has more peak hp than a SC Matrix. Above 80, he had the advantage but I think it's because of the 6-speed vs. my auto more so than the engine. I've added a header-back exhuast to my car and had it tuned to correct the air/fuel ratio. Keep in mind, my car is an auto and to compete with a 6-speed XRS with intake and custom exhuast is very good. For real world driving where your rpm's are varied, the SC has a huge advantage and is very much worth it. Just the fact that I beat him off the line with an auto shows how much torque the SC adds in the lower rpms. Props to you Larry for doing the head to dead testing w/ the modded XRS!! This is the kind of thing that I think is most usefull..real world driving + comparisons...this could helpp some decide whether to get a Base SC or the 2zz model...good job!..next time get rick to turn down his boost to 7psi, and get him out there , or get me or Matrix-t in the mix ....and see how a turbo kit compares

Re: Supercharger Announcement (Faultline)

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 6:43 am
by Larry
quote: The peak hp is increased by 30 but the biggest gain comes in the lower-power band. I have an auto Matrix and am very happy with the performance. A fellow Matrix owner and I did some real world test on a long unpopulated road. He has a 6-speed XRS with a CAI and a Magnaflow catback exhaust. In real world driving, my SC auto is quicker. Here are the results:0-60: Winner - SC Auto0-80: Winner - SC Auto0-100: Winner - XRS 6-speedTaking off from 40 in normal cruising rpm range: SC Auto (Not close)Taking off from 40 with XRS in lift or close to lift: XRS (Very close)In lift, the XRS still has more peak hp than a SC Matrix. Above 80, he had the advantage but I think it's because of the 6-speed vs. my auto more so than the engine. I've added a header-back exhuast to my car and had it tuned to correct the air/fuel ratio. Keep in mind, my car is an auto and to compete with a 6-speed XRS with intake and custom exhuast is very good. For real world driving where your rpm's are varied, the SC has a huge advantage and is very much worth it. Just the fact that I beat him off the line with an auto shows how much torque the SC adds in the lower rpms. Props to you Larry for doing the head to dead testing w/ the modded XRS!! This is the kind of thing that I think is most usefull..real world driving + comparisons...this could helpp some decide whether to get a Base SC or the 2zz model...good job!..next time get rick to turn down his boost to 7psi, and get him out there , or get me or Matrix-t in the mix ....and see how a turbo kit compares I'd love to meet up with you. I work really close to Matrix-T but he hasn't taken me an offer to do a test run. Where do you live?

Re: Supercharger Announcement (Larry)

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:04 am
by Faultline
quote: I'd love to meet up with you. I work really close to Matrix-T but he hasn't taken me an offer to do a test run. Where do you live? I live on a planet called Earth!...it's the 3rd one from the sun...Uhm..is that close to where you are? ....I live in the desert...if you can find on your map a town called Littlerock...that's where I live....Ca that is.....I live right on the San Andreas fault....Its about 10 miles east of Palmdale along Hwy 138...if you know where that is....I live about 2 milles from LACR if you have ever been there....It takes me 90 minutes to drive to Disneyland......Soooo, I am out there a ways..from the rest of So. Cal....

Re: Supercharger Announcement (Jethro)

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 8:45 am
by cohocarl
quote:"Only" $2545 from GMPartsDirect.comGM employees can get parts for their personal vehicles through an employee "discount" program, so I just called the number and the price it gave me was also $2545.00 plus tax.

Re: Supercharger Announcement (cohocarl)

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:10 am
by NY Pete
But has anybody heard if it'll be available for the 5-speed? Anybody? Pete

Re: Supercharger Announcement (NY Pete)

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 9:40 am
by joatmon
quote:But has anybody heard if it'll be available for the 5-speed? Anybody? PeteSeehttp://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=6850 and http://www.genvibe.com/html/features/au ... ates.shtml

Re: Supercharger Announcement (joatmon)

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:16 am
by NY Pete
Thanks man, I appreciate it... And from what I hear if this super is going to be available for $2500 and change like the TRD-branded one, maybe more folks will be interested... But search as I might I still haven't seen a testamonial from a 5-speed Matrix owner...Pete

Re: Supercharger Announcement (Faultline)

Posted: Wed Nov 12, 2003 10:21 am
by Larry
quote: I'd love to meet up with you. I work really close to Matrix-T but he hasn't taken me an offer to do a test run. Where do you live? I live on a planet called Earth!...it's the 3rd one from the sun...Uhm..is that close to where you are? ....I live in the desert...if you can find on your map a town called Littlerock...that's where I live....Ca that is.....I live right on the San Andreas fault....Its about 10 miles east of Palmdale along Hwy 138...if you know where that is....I live about 2 milles from LACR if you have ever been there....It takes me 90 minutes to drive to Disneyland......Soooo, I am out there a ways..from the rest of So. Cal....That is a ways out there. If you're ever in the Orange County area, let me know.

Re: Supercharger Announcement (nate66)

Posted: Wed Nov 19, 2003 3:41 am
by tbm34
Yea, but the $509 S&H charge from gmpartsdirect puts it back over $3000.

Re: Supercharger Announcement (michaelgt)

Posted: Sat Nov 29, 2003 2:15 pm
by SGT
I was at the dealer today and bought a new 04 Vibe. While I was there I noticed that they actually had a Vibe in the showroom with the Supercharger installed on it. It had the dealer installed accessory sticker on it with a price tag of 5400.00! Upped the price to just over 26.5K American. A little to steep for my tastes.