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Plattsburgh speed shop?

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 4:02 am
by Ryan
Hello, I would like to purchase an Injen CAI from a northern us store (Plattsburgh) but since I am from Montreal Canada, I don't know of any speed shops in the area. The reason I wan't to go buy it directly in the US is to save customs, duty, taxes, shipping ect.. I found a montreal shop that sells the intake for 661$ cnd. That comes out to 396$ us. Now wouldn't you be looking for an alternative too? Since Plattsburgh is only 1 hour away, I could drive down, install the Intake and drive back home without customs knowing what hit them! If anybody lives in that part of the U.S or anywhere else that is within 2 hours of montreal, I would be willing to give you a little extra cash to have it delivered to your house so that I could go pick it up. If anybody has another Idea, please feel free to share your thoughts.

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (Ryan)

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 4:16 am
by Frosty
quote:If anybody has another Idea, please feel free to share your thoughts.Ok.... I plan to make my own as detailed here http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=178 Would love to hear of someone trying this out on a Vibe/Matrix.

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (Frosty)

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 4:27 am
by NovaResource
Unless you can fabricate your own MAF sensor holder, you can't make your own. See why here:http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id ... =4819#4819

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (NovaResource)

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 5:07 am
by Frosty
Sorry Mr. Nova, missed those posts as I will be getting a base car and been too busy to read everything. This is a little disappointing. Back to the drawing board. Thanks.

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (Frosty)

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 5:58 am
by NovaResource
Yeah, it is a little disappointing. Plus, Injen doesn't make a CAI for the Vibe (yet). People have said the Injen CAI for the Matrix XRS intake does fit the Vibe GT but my experience found that the Injen CAI for the Matrix XR doesn't fit the base Vibe (without modifications). Hopefully soon, Injen will make Vibe versions.

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (Ryan)

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 3:10 pm
by vibb
There's a Matrix owner story at http://www.matrixowners.com/modules.php ... opic&t=485 you should read, entitled "Alert!! Injen CAI problem. My engine is screwed."

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (vibb)

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 8:39 pm
by NovaResource
Don't let that scare you. It was an installation error, nothing more. If installed correctly, there will be no problem (unless you totally submerge the filter in water while the engine is running). If you have someone install the CAI, be sure to check the all the connections especially the clamp holding the filter on.

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (NovaResource)

Posted: Tue Aug 27, 2002 9:46 pm
by sharky
also dont forget some of these pipes "dangle" or hang by just one fitting and thats at the intake. If you look at the stock fitting its got more then one area where its screwed down. I noticed one under or near the battery. And the longer your tube the more your filter is going vibrate. I would check that filter at least once a month, espacially if you just went over a nice big bump. sometimes depending on the car the filter could be exposed to bigger hole under it, and if that filter comes off you'll never here it fall or see it fall...unless your backing up. take a look at this S2000, its a perfect example. nothing but empty space under the filter.http://www.autocarparts.com/images/prod ... stall1.jpg
[Modified by sharky, 8:49 AM 8/28/2002]

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (sharky)

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 12:17 am
by NovaResource
quote:also dont forget some of these pipes "dangle" or hang by just one fitting and thats at the intake. If you look at the stock fitting its got more then one area where its screwed down. I noticed one under or near the battery. And the longer your tube the more your filter is going vibrate.The Injen CAI does have a bracket to attach it (via a rubber bushing) to the body next to the battery. Mine was cut off when I shortened my intake but normally there is one.quote:I would check that filter at least once a month, espacially if you just went over a nice big bump. sometimes depending on the car the filter could be exposed to bigger hole under it, and if that filter comes off you'll never here it fall or see it fall...unless your backing up.Good advice. However, the Injen intake has a raised ridge at the end where the filter attaches (similar to a radiator outlet). This ridge creates a tight fit and the clamp is supposed to be tightened behind the ridge to prevent it from falling off.quote:take a look at this S2000, its a perfect example. nothing but empty space under the filter.http://www.autocarparts.com/images/prod ... l1.jpgTake another look. That black thing hanging down next to the fans is the bypass valve, not the filter. You will notice the red CAI continuing below it and traveling to the left in the picture.
[Modified by NovaResource, 4:44 PM 8/28/2002]

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (NovaResource)

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 3:16 am
by masonjl
since we are so off topic.....nova, how are the results of installing the injen???definetly recommended?????

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (masonjl)

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 4:49 am
by NovaResource
Inconclusive.Bad weather and traffic have prevented me from making enought G-Tech runs. The one and only run was on a stretch of road that has a slight incline so number should be off however, there was a slight improvement.ET went from 17.1 @ 87-mph to 17.0 @ 84-mph0 to 60 went from 9.2 to 9.1My guess is the slight uphill run hurt performance as evidenced by the 3-mph slower trap speed. I figure a good run on a flat piece of road would net a 16.9 @ 88-mph for an approx .2 and 1-mph improvement. We'll see with more testing.Scott

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (NovaResource)

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 4:58 am
by Frosty
Scott: DM Kolb figured there might be a 2-3 mpg improvement in the car's mileage. Would you mind monitoring it as well? I will have to sell a CAI to the Mrs. so the thing will have to pay for itself. She would prefer I bought thermal windows or some such boring thing.

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (NovaResource)

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 5:14 am
by sharky
quote:Take another look. That black thing hanging down next to the fans is the bypass valve, not the filter. You will notice the red CAI continuing below it and traveling to the left in the picture.DOH!!!!... what a difference between browsers... i have IE6 at home and it blows the pic up... I originally found that pic at work with IE5 and it wasnt as nice....here's to you NovaResource

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (Frosty)

Posted: Wed Aug 28, 2002 8:26 pm
by NovaResource
quote:Scott: DM Kolb figured there might be a 2-3 mpg improvement in the car's mileage. Would you mind monitoring it as well?That might be a little difficult. I can't seem to keep my foot off the floor. The sound of the intake is great and I keep wanting to make 1/4-mile runs. LOL!Seriously, I will do that. For the record, I was getting about 19-mpg in the city before the intake.

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (Frosty)

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 6:26 am
by NovaResource
quote:Scott: DM Kolb figured there might be a 2-3 mpg improvement in the car's mileage. Would you mind monitoring it as well?Would you believe it, I am getting a little better mileage!Last fill-up was on 8/20. The Injen intake was installed on 8/26 and I just filled up today (8/30). The mileage was 20.4-mpg. That's a 1-mpg improvement over was I was getting before the Injen intake. Factor in that about half that tank (6 days) was before the intake and the other half (4 days) was with the intake AND driving with a heavy right foot. Funny that MPG went up with all the full-throttle acceleration runs.Performance increase is not as much as I would have liked:Before Injen: 17.1 @ 87 ET and 9.2 0-60After Injen: 17.0 @ 86 ET and 9.1 0-60I will note that the 17.0 ET was with a 9.2 0-60 and the time I got a 9.1 0-60 I was forced to lift before I got a full 1/4-mile run due to traffic. That 9.1 0-60 was a good launch and probably would have gotten me my first 16.9 ET but it was not to be so as the Beatles sang, "She was just seventeen....".Maybe a muffler swap would help.

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (NovaResource)

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 9:33 pm
by sharky
NovaResource how are you measuring these times?do you reset your trip odometer, for the 1/4 mile?

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (sharky)

Posted: Fri Aug 30, 2002 11:58 pm
by NovaResource
I am using an accelerometer device called the G-Tech Pro. It measures G-Force and time to determine distance, ET and speed along with horsepower, 0-60 times, 60-0 braking, lateral G's, etc. Read about it here: http://www.gtechpro.comI've had mine to the track with my Nova and it's very accurate. Usually .1 slow in the ET and about 4-mph high in the trap speed. The .1 slow in the ET is due to a track having "rollout" and basicially giving you a rolling head start before the clocks start where the G-Tech starts timing the millisecond it senses movement. The trap speed difference is due to the track averaging your speed over the last 60 feet of the track where the G-Tech registers your exact speed at the end of the 1/4 mile.
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Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (NovaResource)

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:07 am
by sharky
WOW...that thing can do a lot for only 139!!!!!! I would love to have one, I would probable use it everyday. I have a lot of roads around me that are out in no mans land.Out of curiosity does the one you have measure your HP, and if it does what does it say for the AWD vibe? I have seen some dyno's for the GT Vibe and they are saying it has 152RWHP

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (sharky)

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:19 am
by NovaResource
RWHP (Rear Wheel Horsepower), that funny 'cause it's a FWD (Front Wheel Drive) car. LOL! Anyway, I'd expect a GT to be putting about 155-hp to the wheels. There is about a 20-25 hp loss through the trans and final drive ratio. A little more for the auto (about 25-hp) and even more for the AWD (probably 30-hp).

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (NovaResource)

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 1:49 am
by sharky
lol...opsit never registered in my head. im so used to seeing RWHP all the time its almost second nature.

Re: Plattsburgh speed shop? (sharky)

Posted: Sat Aug 31, 2002 4:31 am
by NovaResource
I knew what you meant. Trust me, I've made that mistake before.