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Question On The Timing Belt

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 8:30 am
by cruizin gt
I'm not sure if this is where I should be posting this message, but do any of you know if the Vibe GT have a chain timing belt or a rubber timing belt? I'm assuming that if it is a chain timing belt then I will not have to worry about having it adjusted every year or so. Is this a safe assumption?Thanks.

Re: Question On The Timing Belt (cruizin gt)

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 9:40 am
by millster
The reading I've done has said rubber belt. I think there's a thing in the manual under maintainence that states when it should be changed. Past experience leads me to believe around 60,000 Mi. (I'm not near my manual at the moment or I'd look for sure).

Re: Question On The Timing Belt (millster)

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 9:47 am
by ullbergm
http://www.mygmlink.com shows this for 60,000 miles:quote:Engine Accessory Drive Belt Inspection Inspect engine accessory drive belts Interval: At 60000 miles (or 48 months, whichever occurs first) then every 15000 miles (or 12 months, whichever occurs first)

Re: Question On The Timing Belt (ullbergm)

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 9:58 am
by millster
Well, close but wrong belt. Thanks for the info though.

Re: Question On The Timing Belt (cruizin gt)

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 10:29 am
by vibb
Since 1998 the Toyota based 1.8 engine has used a metal timing chain.

Re: Question On The Timing Belt (cruizin gt)

Posted: Wed Aug 21, 2002 4:59 pm
by cohocarl
Either one, there shouldn't be any adjustment necessary. It's definately a good idea to have it changed when it gets up around 60,000 miles though just in case it's a "crasher", and with 11.5/1 compression, I think we'd be better off keeping the valves/pistons synched....

Re: Question On The Timing Belt (cruizin gt)

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2002 12:49 am
by pellmellus
I called my Pontiac dealer and they told me that the car has a timing chain. Timing chains are maintenance free and don't need to be replaced (unless by some bad luck it breaks). Replacing timing belts costs around $500. So if you keep your cars a long time like me, you will save at least $1000. Another reason to love this car.

Re: Question On The Timing Belt (pellmellus)

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2002 1:04 am
by NovaResource
quote:Timing chains are maintenance free and don't need to be replaced (unless by some bad luck it breaks).That's not true. While timing chains do last longer than belts, they do stretch over time. They can stretch so much that it can jump a tooth and throw the cam out of timing from the crank. If the 1ZZ and 2ZZ engines are interference engines (which I think they are) the valves can hit the pistons if the cam timing is thrown off.
[Modified by NovaResource, 1:05 PM 8/22/2002]

Re: Question On The Timing Belt (NovaResource)

Posted: Thu Aug 22, 2002 3:35 am
by cruizin gt
Thank you all for your responses and advice. Those were all very useful info.

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:24 pm
by Vibe o rater
I read recently on another site that the Vibe 1.8L was a "non-interference" type engine design. Can anyone confirm this? Good news that it has a timing chain...much more reliable and saves $$$ in the long run!

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 9:51 pm
by JohnC
My last commuting car was a neon (great handling and mpg), I had changed the timing belt every 65k miles because it was an interference engine. Well I should have changed the water pump also because at just over 200k miles the wp bearing went out which is driven by the timing belt. This caused the timing belt to "ride off" the toothed pulleys and in an instant my engine was ruined. Bent everything in the valve train and damaged all the pistons etc. Pretty much totalled the car since it was 8 years old. Oh well live and learn...got a Vibe now!

Re: (JohnC)

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:19 pm
by cspmeinkc
I also had a 1998 dodge neon R/T.I replaced the timing belt at 75,000 with all the rest of the belts with the water pump. Thankfully i worked at a dealership, so i got off lucky.The Vibe has a chain, that was one of the first questions i asked before i bought the car.

Re: (cspmeinkc)

Posted: Mon Aug 02, 2004 10:36 pm
by goodvibe
They're non-interference engines. If you've heard of bent valves, it's from float during an overrev when the valves have left the cam altogether. There sould be a tensioner to take up any slack in the timing chain. It should never need replacement.

Re: (JohnC)

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 8:27 am
by dmitri
yea we have a timing chain, much more reliable and stuff. also more noisy lol

Re: (dmitri)

Posted: Tue Aug 03, 2004 11:37 am
by AKLGT
hey, dmitri. haven't seen you in a long while! how's the vibe coming along?question on your port and polish job for the headers: was that expensive? how much did it cost and did you really see that much of an improvement?

Re: (trdvibe)

Posted: Wed Aug 04, 2004 11:05 pm
by ToolGuy
Yeah timing chain... Although most Asian engines have timing belts, I will take a chian any day even though I know the advantages and disadvantages of both.