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And of course, you probably know what's included.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H69jd12q_0U

Ed's channel is great, I love his take on things.

Interesting article and somewhat entertaining. I almost became a victim of a rebadged work vehicle just a few years ago. I was part of a LARGE company in the mechanical service sector where we're required to drive a full size work van. This usually entails 1000 lbs plus, of tools, occasional equipment, and sometimes towing a trailer to boot. All fine & dandy with the current Ford & Chevy full sized 3/4 & 1 ton work vans. But not so good with what they were ordering us to replace the Ford & Chevys. A FIAT Ducato Front wheel drive, unibody (no full frame) limited cargo & towing capacities, and looks like a grasshopper! They tried to "Americanize" it by calling it a RAM Promaster. What a joke

One positive rebadged vehicle that my wife REALLY loves, is her Holden Commodore ... I mean her Pontiac G8 GT

They've actually done this for a very long time.

The "Ford Escort" was also the "Mercury Lynx". I bought a non-running Lynx to use as spare parts for my Escort in the early 90's.

Bookworm wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:35 pm They've actually done this for a very long time.

Yep, and it's not just limited to the automotive industry. Washer/dryers & other similar appliances. Whirlpool & Maytag are pretty much the same. Also in the HVAC industry, specifically the residential furnace market, A Carrier, Bryant, Payne, or Day & Night are all the identical furnace. When I install one (which I do a few times a year) I tell the customer " is it a Chevy, Buick, Pontiac, or Oldsmobile" and they get the drift as they are all the same underneath the sheet metal

Those promasters also use the same drivetrain as a caravan/Pacifica/town and country. Absolute garbage.

tpollauf wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 5:01 pm

Bookworm wrote: ↑Sun Mar 06, 2022 12:35 pm They've actually done this for a very long time.

Washer/dryers & other similar appliances.

Ah, yes - "Big Washer." 2 years old and "that'll cost more to fix than it's worth." Didn't feel like repeating that cycle so Speed Queen it was. 12 years later it's obvious those machines will outlast me.

ColonelPanic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:55 am Didn't feel like repeating that cycle so Speed Queen it was. 12 years later it's obvious those machines will outlast me.

Very true and if I have my way, that will be the next washer. One big drawback is the wife likes to do big loads and Speed Queen's biggest is only 3.8 cu ft, whereas the current Whirlpool (just had to replace yet another water pump ) is 4.2. We'll see if I can convince her.

tpollauf wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 7:37 pm

ColonelPanic wrote: ↑Mon Mar 07, 2022 6:55 am Didn't feel like repeating that cycle so Speed Queen it was. 12 years later it's obvious those machines will outlast me.

Very true and if I have my way, that will be the next washer. One big drawback is the wife likes to do big loads and Speed Queen's biggest is only 3.8 cu ft, whereas the current Whirlpool (just had to replace yet another water pump ) is 4.2. We'll see if I can convince her.

Our old one went 13 years without an issue, it's still in our garage (the house we moved into already had a washer/dryer, but I'm not giving mine up). you might go check the local 'used appliance' places for one of the washers made pre-2009.