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205/60/R16, still enough power?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 12:37 pm
by Brotherdave
New ‘04 owner with a tire size question. Many here recommend replacing the factory 205/55/R16s with 205/60/R16s. I know this 3.2% increase slightly exceeds the 3% max typically recommended, will throw off the speedometer reading, may reduce mpg, and may increase brake/suspension wear. I can live with all that. But I’d absolutely LOVE the smoother ride and increased ground clearance (scant 0.4 inches that it would add).
I’ll be driving a lot of mountain roads and steeply graded interstates in the west. My question for those who’ve made this change in tire size is, how much did it affect power? Did you notice a difference in hill climbing performance? More downshifting of your AT? Any other performance changes such as reduced a/c output from lower rpm’s in slow city driving? Anything else I haven’t considered? Also, does anyone know if Discount Tire will install these “oversized” tires, or will I have to go somewhere else?
Thanks in advance for any input.
Re: 205/60/R16, still enough power?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:11 pm
by Mark
I've been running 205/60s on my Vibes for years now, and haven't noticed any difference in power or shifting. The speedometer is now spot on instead of being off by 1-2 mph at higher speed. If any of the other issues you mention exist they're too minor to notice, for me at least. The improvement in ride quality is, however, very noticeable.
Re: 205/60/R16, still enough power?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:50 pm
by Brotherdave
Thanks Mark. I’ve seen your other posts about this tire size, but good to know you haven’t noted my specific concerns.
Re: 205/60/R16, still enough power?
Posted: Sun Mar 07, 2021 4:10 pm
by Mark
You're welcome, and welcome to the forum!
Re: 205/60/R16, still enough power?
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:11 am
by Brotherdave
Pulled the trigger on the 205/60/16’s, Pirelli P7 All Season Plus. Pretty highly rated at Tire Rack. Discount Tire price matched Onlinetires at $81 each, and credited me $25 each for the Nexens they took off, so not bad. (The All Season Plus are cheap now since Pirelli discontinued and replaced with the new All Season Plus II.)
Tracks straight, quiet, and stable, and potholes aren’t such a shock to the system

. Thanks again for all the input about this topic on this and related threads.
Re: 205/60/R16, still enough power?
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 11:18 am
by Caretaker
No problem. yeah, I had the P7 Cinturato Plus. They were a definite upgrade in water dispersion and light snow. I haven't researched what the Plus II bring to the table as far as improvements. For sure, you are getting an excellent tire that is very soft and quiet. Congrats.
Re: 205/60/R16, still enough power?
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:59 pm
by cptnsolo77
Mark wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:11 pm
I've been running 205/60s on my Vibes for years now, and haven't noticed any difference in power or shifting. The speedometer is now spot on instead of being off by 1-2 mph at higher speed. If any of the other issues you mention exist they're too minor to notice, for me at least. The improvement in ride quality is, however, very noticeable.
Is it a smoother/quieter ride ?
Re: 205/60/R16, still enough power?
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 4:55 pm
by Mark
cptnsolo77 wrote: ↑Mon Mar 22, 2021 1:59 pm
Mark wrote: ↑Sun Mar 07, 2021 1:11 pm
I've been running 205/60s on my Vibes for years now, and haven't noticed any difference in power or shifting. The speedometer is now spot on instead of being off by 1-2 mph at higher speed. If any of the other issues you mention exist they're too minor to notice, for me at least. The improvement in ride quality is, however, very noticeable.
Is it a smoother/quieter ride ?
It is noticeably smoother, but the tire size didn't make any difference in tire noise. The Cooper Evolution Tour tires I have are easily the quietest tires I've ever had on the Vibes so far.
Re: 205/60/R16, still enough power?
Posted: Mon Mar 22, 2021 5:11 pm
by cptnsolo77
Got it ! Yes I have the same tires as well. They ARE the quietest tires I have had on the Vibe

Re: 205/60/R16, still enough power?
Posted: Tue Mar 23, 2021 8:57 am
by Brotherdave
I would add that I don’t know how much of my quieter, smoother ride came from the larger tire size vs change in tire make/model (Pirelli AS+ from Nexen AH5). I will say that I did notice a small decrease in acceleration and steering response - not quite as sporty of a driving experience. Again, I’ll gladly take those hits in exchange the softer ride, but it’s something to be aware of.