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03 Vibe w/ 05 Matrix Engine - Hissing Sound below Intake Manifold ?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:36 am
by h0ckeyplayer
Got a 2003 Vibe. We replaced the engine with an 05 Matrix engine 2 weeks ago. Runs and sounds like the engine is strong but has a misfire on all cyl. Runs pretty good except idle is kinda rough and after a drive it idles at 2k. I hear a hissing sound when engine is running, not a real loud hiss but it sounds like its coming from under the intake manifold. We changed intake manifold gasket and throttle body gaskets.

What could i do to help figure out the leak? Is a smoke test safe and if so are there any cheap ways to do them?
Thanks in advance!!

Re: 03 Vibe w/ 05 Matrix Engine - Hissing Sound below Intake Manifold ?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:37 am
by h0ckeyplayer
https://www.reddit.com/r/MechanicAdvice ... on_colder/

this is also another issue ive experienced at start up when cold. Its like 2 click sounds after starting. Only happened when its become colder out.

Re: 03 Vibe w/ 05 Matrix Engine - Hissing Sound below Intake Manifold ?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 6:55 am
by zbyers
What are the codes the vehicle is throwing?

Re: 03 Vibe w/ 05 Matrix Engine - Hissing Sound below Intake Manifold ?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:09 am
by h0ckeyplayer
Misfire on 1, 2, 3, 4 at work right now so i am not sure the exact codes. Pretty sure it said lean though

I know another one is the exhaust catalyst believe its P0420 (that the sensor for catalytic converter) don't think that one has to do with the mis though.

Re: 03 Vibe w/ 05 Matrix Engine - Hissing Sound below Intake Manifold ?

Posted: Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:13 am
by h0ckeyplayer
pretty sure its P0301 P0302 P0303 P0304
its either those or a P0171

Re: 03 Vibe w/ 05 Matrix Engine - Hissing Sound below Intake Manifold ?

Posted: Fri Oct 11, 2019 8:31 am
by zbyers
h0ckeyplayer wrote: Thu Oct 10, 2019 7:13 am pretty sure its P0301 P0302 P0303 P0304
its either those or a P0171
First four codes are misfires. I'd check the plugs and coils.

Last code generally is an intake manifold leak/vacuum leak. I would double check the vacuum lines.

Re: 03 Vibe w/ 05 Matrix Engine - Hissing Sound below Intake Manifold ?

Posted: Sat Oct 12, 2019 6:50 pm
by h0ckeyplayer
thanks! i will try to check hoses. My neighbor helped me do the engine replacement. I'm just wondering if one of the hoses is hooked up wrong. I know he found one that he put on wrong right after finishing the job with me. I noticed it leaking when first adding coolant. the one line behind the intake manifold wasnt hooked up right. everything looks right but i just got a feeling it could be something like that.
Wish i could find a easy to ready diagram of all the hoses placements.

Re: 03 Vibe w/ 05 Matrix Engine - Hissing Sound below Intake Manifold ?

Posted: Mon Oct 14, 2019 5:51 am
by zbyers
Where are you located? Perhaps you are near a member on here or on the Facebook group who'd be willing to swing by and give you a hand.

Re: 03 Vibe w/ 05 Matrix Engine - Hissing Sound below Intake Manifold ?

Posted: Thu Nov 14, 2019 7:43 pm
by 1Vibefrom2
Did you figure this out?
I'm doing a similar swap right now, 06 vibe engine into an 04 vibe.
Read this tip on ToyotaNation, maybe part of your problem?

https://www.toyotanation.com/threads/ha ... w.1108946/

2005-2008 Corolla/Matrix/Pontiac Vibe engine in a 2003-2004 Corolla/Matrix/Pontiac Vibe:

Almost direct swap - If the engine has an intake manifold it will need to be swapped with the original manifold from the 2003-2004 engine. Also the sensor in the exhaust manifold is not the same and will need to be swapped from the 2003-2004 if it is used. The wiring harness is also different and the original will also need to be swapped if the engine came with one.