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Seen the commercials for the new Quest? The skyview things they have going are pretty cool looking:The dual overhead entertainment screens are nifty too!On the other hand, the console is hideous: Overall, kudos to Nissan, their newer designs are really quite intuitive!

Yeah I've been seeing this alot on TV lately. Nissan and Infiniti have great looking vehicles.

nissan is definitely stepping their overall appeal up! i really like what they've done with their entire line up! except the frontier. it still lacks the non-plastic look IMH.

has anyone seen the new commercial for the xterra? nobody cares if it can drive over a rough, deserted terrain. who in their right mind would pay 30 g's for a car and then run the hell out of it off road? don't the car designers realize that the reason crossovers are so popular is because they have the versatility of an suv, but drive like a car? *scenario* "Spencer Johnson, corporate executive, takes his Lincoln Navigator to the mud pit and lets loose, driving over huge rocks and hills with no abandon." yeah right!

Touché drunkenvibe!Because people by that 75,000 Porsche Cayenne to take it offroading...

quote:has anyone seen the new commercial for the xterra? nobody cares if it can drive over a rough, deserted terrain. who in their right mind would pay 30 g's for a car and then run the hell out of it off road? don't the car designers realize that the reason crossovers are so popular is because they have the versatility of an suv, but drive like a car? *scenario* "Spencer Johnson, corporate executive, takes his Lincoln Navigator to the mud pit and lets loose, driving over huge rocks and hills with no abandon." yeah right!Let's start here.... The Xterra is not a car. Its a truck. It has a true 4wd system, and not a AWD system that most crossover-car-based-tall-sedans have. (Notice, I didn't call them SUV's)Visit http://www.xterraownersclub.com/goxquote:"GOX is an annual gathering of XTERRA owners from all over North America. Each year, we meet in Ouray Colorado for a week of 4 wheeling, socializing and partying."Also http://www.gonemoab.com/quote:Gathering of Nissan Enthusiasts MOAB (goneMOAB) is a social meeting of Nissan 4x4 owners from around North America. This means Pathfinders, Hardbody Pickups, Patrols, Xterras & Frontiers. If it's a Nissan 4WD vehicle you qualify! The goal of goneMOAB is to meet new people, eat good food, bask in the sunshine and drive some of the best, and most picturesque 4 wheel drive trails in what is known as "Mecca" for 4x4's.It's a great venue for drivers of all skill levels to enjoy themselves and the scenery, gain experience, and get the most out of their Nissan 4x4. People from all over the world as well as every major off-road magazine descend on MOAB in the spring for the largest 4X4 event in the country. You have to experience it for yourself! http://www.xterraownersclub.comhttp://w ... .net/There are thousands of people who take their SUV's offroad. That is what separates the "Real SUVs" from car-based crossovers.The Xterra is NOT A CROSSOVER. The Murano is, and the FX 45 is. The CRV is, the Escape is, even the Vibe is. The Xterra is a truck based SUV.

I really like the new H2 commercial with the soap box derby and the wooded H2 runs down the hill and wins....

quote:I really like the new H2 commercial with the soap box derby and the wooded H2 runs down the hill and wins....That is a cool commercial. Too bad it portarys off-roaders as reckless, cheaters. The sport of off-roading is actually very respectful of staying on designated trails and "making short cuts" is VERY frowned upon.See http://www.treadlighty.comThe sad truth is that most people who buy H2's will not care about "tread lightly" and they probably will drive across fields and open spaces - just like in the commericals. Its behavior like that, which gets public lands closed and off-roaders and campers will have less area's for their sports. We can thank GM for their "cool commericals" and marketing their product to a demographic which is not educated nor prepared for the "great outdoors".

The new Maxima has it too: Nissan/Infiniti really have a cutting edge design team working for them!

*quote* "Let's start here.... The Xterra is not a car. Its a truck. It has a true 4wd system, and not a AWD system that most crossover-car-based-tall-sedans have. (Notice, I didn't call them SUV's)"relax man! car, truck whatever! i was just stating that the MAJORITY of suv owners don't drive off road, that is why crossover vehicles are so popular. i never called the xterra a crossover. don't be so quick to jump my rump

Ahem... (sorry, clearing my throat)... getting back to the Nissan Quest... I saw an older one today and it is just (removed) ugly. The revamped one is muchly improved.

quote:relax man! car, truck whatever! i was just stating that the MAJORITY of suv owners don't drive off road, that is why crossover vehicles are so popular. You are just sore that I picked apart your post and you have no comeback. If you do not realize the difference between a car and a truck and just choose to say ..."whatever", then I cannot help you any further.Crossover vehicles work very well for someone who wants something bigger than a car and never intends to off-road. (See: CRV, RAV4, Highlander, Freelander, Vibe, Murano, etc) Unfortately, the vast majority of off-road capable SUV's out there are owned by people with a "crossover vehicle mentality". Or in some twisted cases, they think their Jeep, or H2, or Xterra are crossover vehicles - when they are not.When you say that crossover's "have the versatility of an SUV" that is not really a true statement. They cannot off-road, and they do not have 4wd systems. They are also built from weaker car-based chassis. It's probably more accurate to say that crossover vehicles "have the versatitly of a van or a minivan". A crossover vehicle is basically a "tall-sedan" with some sort of innovation to separate it from a normal sedan. That would be more accurate. Crossover's have as much in common with SUV's as minivans do. It's really a farce to call a crossover an SUV.quote:i never called the xterra a crossover. don't be so quick to jump my rump I never said you did. You called it a car. And then you proceeded to compare it with a crossover vehicle, when really an SUV and a crossover have nothing in common and that would be like comparing apples to oranges.My take:Everyone who owns an SUV who doesn't use it like an SUV - should trade it in for a car or crossover or minivan. they don't use it as it was designed, and a car or van would suit them better. See http://poseur.4x4.org/ for a more detailed discussion.quote:has anyone seen the new commercial for the xterra? nobody cares if it can drive over a rough, deserted terrain. People who are in the Xterra demographic will care.If people don't care about driving over deserted/rough terrain, then they shouldn't buy an SUV. But, you and I both know that people will buy SUV's cause they are "in" right now. (ex: the H2)Nissan is marketing toward the off-roading, rock-climbing, camping, kayaking, surfing, mountain biking, demographic. This makes sense afterall, the Xterra is an SUV. Naturally their ads will reflect that. If Nissan wanted to market the Xterra to the "mall crawler" demographic, then I am sure they would include lots of commericals of the Xterra cruising thru parking lots and shuttling kids to soccer practice. Nissan would probably also add some features like, remote entry doors, in-dash navigation, and leather seats. But none of those items are part of the target demographic. big tires, neoprene seats, and roof racks are.

Back to the Quest...I kinda wish that Nissan made the Quest look more like its concept...http://www.freshalloy.com/site/cars/nis ... me.shtmlIt had some pretty nifty features, like cameras in the place of the side view mirrors as well as the multi-sunroof design. The lines of the concept were also sharper than the production version. The production version really looks more conservative than the concept version.

Seeing the pictures of the Quest on TV and billboards, it looked kinda cool. Then I saw one in person. I may have to add it to my "ugly car list".

quote:Seeing the pictures of the Quest on TV and billboards, it looked kinda cool. Then I saw one in person. I may have to add it to my "ugly car list".for the love of god, don't call it a car! you may be banished to hell for eternity (see above)

frankly my dear, i don't give a damn.

quote:for the love of god, don't call it a car! you may be banished to hell for eternity (see above)Isn't the Quest based on the Altima chassis? If it is, then I suppose it can be considered a "car" (or at least debated). Yes, I know you don't give a damn. Just having some fun with this discussion.