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In my mind, the first gen Vibe is a compact crossover. It has higher clearance than your standard hatchback, raised ceiling, and a more upright ride position. The Vibe was a compact crossover done right. The Juke is a compact crossover done wrong.KITT222 wrote:Compact crossovers bug me. Weee, it's a crossover, not a lame wagon or hatchback! But... Lower it and you get a hatchback. But then they narrow the rear roof to make it seem taller and cut down on its practicality and ruin the hatchback look.
I'd much rather wait for the Scion IM. It's the Toyota Auris in other markets. And I think this is why the Matrix was killed.
Auris is shorter than I realized. Height to me is irrelevant (unless you're referring to ride height/ground clearance). New and newish automobiles have far too much useless headroom. I'm not a short man, over 6ft, and having a foot of useless space above my head is, wait for it, useless. This is to bolster cubic ft of space claims and to give the feeling of greater space to customers. To me, it's space I cannot use, so it's useless. All it does is add weight and drag.JPark wrote:In my mind, the first gen Vibe is a compact crossover. It has higher clearance than your standard hatchback, raised ceiling, and a more upright ride position. The Vibe was a compact crossover done right. The Juke is a compact crossover done wrong.KITT222 wrote:Compact crossovers bug me. Weee, it's a crossover, not a lame wagon or hatchback! But... Lower it and you get a hatchback. But then they narrow the rear roof to make it seem taller and cut down on its practicality and ruin the hatchback look.
I'd much rather wait for the Scion IM. It's the Toyota Auris in other markets. And I think this is why the Matrix was killed.
I'll keep an eye on the Scion IM, but it looks like it might be too small for my needs. The Auris is 5" shorter length and 2" shorter height than 1st gen Vibe.
Waitwaitwait - Toyota finally got with the program and put a turbo to one of their engines?ImUrOBGYN wrote:I like the look of the Auris. Now, throw in Toyota's new 2L turbo and you've got a good replacement for the old GT.
It's first use will be in the new Lexus RX. Expect it to start being used in everything Toyota at some point. I just can't imagine it'd be any different than their bread and butter 4 and 6 cylinders they currently drop in everything, in various states of tune, of course.KITT222 wrote:Waitwaitwait - Toyota finally got with the program and put a turbo to one of their engines?ImUrOBGYN wrote:I like the look of the Auris. Now, throw in Toyota's new 2L turbo and you've got a good replacement for the old GT.
I KNEW the CVT was the harbinger of Toyota evolving! Finally. Maybe the next Corolla won't STILL be of relation to the 03 model.
Anyway, I'd put solid money down on the Camry 2.4 at best. Look to the Corolla otherwise. In Europe it gets a 1.6 petrol, and in New Zealand/Australia it has the same 1.8L that the second gen Vibes (09/10) got (2ZR-FE). Will they add more power for America? Hard to say. The Scion brand has always been more about the body and less about real power.
Added the specs for my 2012 CR-V. Looks like the HR-V is very slightly smaller but with a 1.8L vs the 2.4 of the CR-V. My overall and highway mileage are very comparable between the Vibe and CR-V. I guess I would consider it as a Vibe replacement, if I ever replace my Vibes. By then Honda might have a PR-V or QR-V or something.JPark wrote:Dimensions compared to 2006 Vibe (my model. Man, I love that car.)
____________________________2006_Vibe___2016_HR-V____2012_CR-V
Wheelbase___________________102.4_______102.8________103.1
Length______________________171.9_______169.1________179.4
Width_______________________69.9________69.8_________71.6
Height______________________62.2________63.2__________65.1
Passenger_Volume_cu._ft._____96.1_______100.1__________101.5
Cargo_(seats_up)_cu._ft.______19.3________24.3__________35.2
Cargo_(Seats_down)_cu._ft.___54.1________58.8___________70.9
For me, this is now at the top of the list of potential Vibe replacements. I just need to get a couple more years out of my Vibe 'til I can start looking for a used HR-V...
This is a perfect example of "different strokes for different folks". To me, head room is one of the most important features when shopping for a smallish car. I'm 6'2" and absolutely hate my wife's Mazda 3 'cause my head touches the ceiling. My main complaint with the HR-V is that, with the moon roof, my head is right on the verge of touching. It drives me nuts.ImUrOBGYN wrote: Auris is shorter than I realized. Height to me is irrelevant (unless you're referring to ride height/ground clearance). New and newish automobiles have far too much useless headroom. I'm not a short man, over 6ft, and having a foot of useless space above my head is, wait for it, useless. This is to bolster cubic ft of space claims and to give the feeling of greater space to customers. To me, it's space I cannot use, so it's useless. All it does is add weight and drag.
Sorry, got on a bit of a tangent there. I like the look of the Auris. Now, throw in Toyota's new 2L turbo and you've got a good replacement for the old GT.
Perhaps the tonsure haircut would be a suitable fix for your situation.JPark wrote:This is a perfect example of "different strokes for different folks". To me, head room is one of the most important features when shopping for a smallish car. I'm 6'2" and absolutely hate my wife's Mazda 3 'cause my head touches the ceiling. My main complaint with the HR-V is that, with the moon roof, my head is right on the verge of touching. It drives me nuts.ImUrOBGYN wrote: Auris is shorter than I realized. Height to me is irrelevant (unless you're referring to ride height/ground clearance). New and newish automobiles have far too much useless headroom. I'm not a short man, over 6ft, and having a foot of useless space above my head is, wait for it, useless. This is to bolster cubic ft of space claims and to give the feeling of greater space to customers. To me, it's space I cannot use, so it's useless. All it does is add weight and drag.
Sorry, got on a bit of a tangent there. I like the look of the Auris. Now, throw in Toyota's new 2L turbo and you've got a good replacement for the old GT.
#sexyImUrOBGYN wrote: Perhaps the tonsure haircut would be a suitable fix for your situation.