Thanks for the info... but I have no trust in the owners manual. The manual also lists Dexcool as the coolant and other incorrect specifications. This is why I am hoping that someone who has actually pulled their own original plugs can post the part number.vibenvy wrote:The 2009 owner's manual lists the GM part number for the 1.8L spark plugs as: #19185438 and the Denso part number as: #SK20HR11.
True.DocDoug wrote:Thanks for the info... but I have no trust in the owners manual. The manual also lists Dexcool as the coolant and other incorrect specifications. This is why I am hoping that someone who has actually pulled their own original plugs can post the part number.
Did you mean to say 2zz? If so that is correct. The only proper way to do it is to change the shims. Its a very long and tedious process. If you want to know how its done shoot me your email and I'll try and send it.Caretaker wrote:I thought I would resurrect this threat for DocDoug since no one has posted the answer yet (except for the shaky owners manual). As many of our second generation Vibes have passed 100,000 miles, has no one still not pulled out their OEM plugs to see what came from NUMMI?
Also, a side question: I had read somewhere that our 2ZR engines could not have the valves adjusted, that it is just not possible for the VVTi engines. Is this true? My valves are awfully noisy again as the weather has gotten cold. Is there really no way to re-gap the intake/exhaust valves on these cars?
That's interesting, you have the same burn marks on the ceramic that I did. I heard it was caused by over tightened plugs.kumquat wrote:Toyota's application guide lists the SC20HR11 for the 2ZR-FE
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ACDelco lists the 41-112 as the proper plug, which when purchased are actually Denso SC20HR11
Also, here are the plugs I took out of my 2009 1.8 last night:
Just broke 120k. Put new Densos in.Caretaker wrote:kumquat: thank you very much for taking the time to do this. Did you put in new ones, and if so, what mileage are you at?
Good day to everyone in the Forum.DocDoug wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:31 pmThanks for the info... but I have no trust in the owners manual. The manual also lists Dexcool as the coolant and other incorrect specifications. This is why I am hoping that someone who has actually pulled their own original plugs can post the part number.vibenvy wrote:The 2009 owner's manual lists the GM part number for the 1.8L spark plugs as: #19185438 and the Denso part number as: #SK20HR11.
Doc Doug
For coolant, look for the Toyota Long Life Coolant. It's pink/red. OEM Toyota is what you want.CARIBOU wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:34 amGood day to everyone in the Forum.DocDoug wrote: ↑Mon Jan 28, 2013 5:31 pmThanks for the info... but I have no trust in the owners manual. The manual also lists Dexcool as the coolant and other incorrect specifications. This is why I am hoping that someone who has actually pulled their own original plugs can post the part number.vibenvy wrote:The 2009 owner's manual lists the GM part number for the 1.8L spark plugs as: #19185438 and the Denso part number as: #SK20HR11.
Doc Doug
Sorry to resurrect an old topic, but Doc Doug's post about the inaccuracy of the Owners' Manual definitely got my attention. We have an '09 Vibe FWD with the 1.8L and 120,000 on the clock. We've owned it since 30,000. I wanted to replace the coolant and water pump and saw the manual specifies Dexcool. If not Dexcool, then what type?
We just had the cold-start rattle issue (T-SB-0087-09) repaired last week and the tech recommended replacing the spark plugs. I was going to use Autolite Double Platinum APP5683 (available locally at $5.50 each) instead of the OE Denso. I thought about buying Denso's online but noticed a lot of comments about people being sold counterfeit Denso's. Any opinion on the Autolite's welcome...
https://www.autozone.com/external-engin ... 256473_0_0
The only other maintenance item I can think of is the automatic transmission. It performs just fine, but has never been serviced, and has never needed oil. I haven't checked the manual yet for recommended maintenance, but is the ATF specification in the manual also inaccurate?
Apologies in advance if these questions have already been answered elsewhere.
The coolant in the ‘03 Vibe I just purchased is green. Can I just drain and refill with the Toyota pink, or do I need to flush with distilled water first?zbyers wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:55 am For coolant, look for the Toyota Long Life Coolant. It's pink/red. OEM Toyota is what you want.
Plugs-- most recommend either Denso or NGK plugs.
Tranny fluid-- simply just do a drain and fill using the correct trans fluid. I believe the Castrol Multi-Vehicle is what is calls for.
I have the same issue, green antifreeze from previous owners maintenance.FrankenVibe wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:14 amThe coolant in the ‘03 Vibe I just purchased is green. Can I just drain and refill with the Toyota pink, or do I need to flush with distilled water first?zbyers wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:55 am For coolant, look for the Toyota Long Life Coolant. It's pink/red. OEM Toyota is what you want.
Plugs-- most recommend either Denso or NGK plugs.
Tranny fluid-- simply just do a drain and fill using the correct trans fluid. I believe the Castrol Multi-Vehicle is what is calls for.
IF you do a hot drain, you don't have to flush it twice. The short is this - pull loose the top hose on the radiator. Extend that out with a plug and a hose to either a collection bucket or to the grass. No, it won't hurt the grass, nor any pets if you make sure it's absorbed into the dirt. flush out the overflow container with distilled water, then drain it out as much as you can. (Short cut - open the stopcock on the radiator and drain out what's in there, close the stopcock, and fill the radiator with distilled water) Pop off the radiator cap, put the heater into heat mode in the cabin, and fire up the engine. Once the fluid level starts to drop in the radiator, pour more distilled water in. Keep doing this until the water flowing out of the hose is clear. If you're using pre-diluted, shut the engine off, drain the radiator, then fill with pre-diluted, and turn the engine back on. Keep filling with the pre-diluted until it stops running clear. If concentrate, make sure you know how much you need, drain out the radiator, cork it, fill with the concentrate, then start the engine up until you've put enough concentrate.SSizler wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 9:24 amI have the same issue, green antifreeze from previous owners maintenance.FrankenVibe wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 2:14 amThe coolant in the ‘03 Vibe I just purchased is green. Can I just drain and refill with the Toyota pink, or do I need to flush with distilled water first?zbyers wrote: ↑Fri Feb 14, 2020 8:55 am For coolant, look for the Toyota Long Life Coolant. It's pink/red. OEM Toyota is what you want.
Plugs-- most recommend either Denso or NGK plugs.
Tranny fluid-- simply just do a drain and fill using the correct trans fluid. I believe the Castrol Multi-Vehicle is what is calls for.
Now that it is getting warmer I plan to drain and flush with distilled water, then refill with Toyota Red Long Life Antifreeze.
I will probably drain and flush it twice before refilling with the new stuff.
This is the first time I’ve ever heard of this procedure, very interesting! I’ll search for a video on it just so I can run through it in my head a couple of times (I’m more of a visual or tactile learner) and give it a shot. Thank you!Bookworm wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:32 am IF you do a hot drain, you don't have to flush it twice. The short is this - pull loose the top hose on the radiator. Extend that out with a plug and a hose to either a collection bucket or to the grass. No, it won't hurt the grass, nor any pets if you make sure it's absorbed into the dirt. flush out the overflow container with distilled water, then drain it out as much as you can. (Short cut - open the stopcock on the radiator and drain out what's in there, close the stopcock, and fill the radiator with distilled water) Pop off the radiator cap, put the heater into heat mode in the cabin, and fire up the engine. Once the fluid level starts to drop in the radiator, pour more distilled water in. Keep doing this until the water flowing out of the hose is clear. If you're using pre-diluted, shut the engine off, drain the radiator, then fill with pre-diluted, and turn the engine back on. Keep filling with the pre-diluted until it stops running clear. If concentrate, make sure you know how much you need, drain out the radiator, cork it, fill with the concentrate, then start the engine up until you've put enough concentrate.
What I tend to do, rather than do the draining - because I don't want to burp the engine - is wait until the fluid level drops pretty far in the radiator, then start pouring in water, and then later the concentrate. It may waste a bit more water/concentrate, but it means I don't have to stop and turn the engine on and off. It's also as complete of a flush as it's possible to get without dismantling the engine.
I learned it from my father, and I've been doing it since I had a 1981 Ford Escort. Never had a problem with it. Now, I do tend to use that as a good time to replace the hoses, if they need it. Usually it's just the top hose (hot water). I've had a number of those go out, but I can't remember the last bottom hose that I had that failed.FrankenVibe wrote: ↑Wed Mar 04, 2020 11:38 amThis is the first time I’ve ever heard of this procedure, very interesting! I’ll search for a video on it just so I can run through it in my head a couple of times (I’m more of a visual or tactile learner) and give it a shot. Thank you!Bookworm wrote: ↑Tue Mar 03, 2020 10:32 am IF you do a hot drain, you don't have to flush it twice. The short is this - pull loose the top hose on the radiator. Extend that out with a plug and a hose to either a collection bucket or to the grass. No, it won't hurt the grass, nor any pets if you make sure it's absorbed into the dirt. flush out the overflow container with distilled water, then drain it out as much as you can. (Short cut - open the stopcock on the radiator and drain out what's in there, close the stopcock, and fill the radiator with distilled water) Pop off the radiator cap, put the heater into heat mode in the cabin, and fire up the engine. Once the fluid level starts to drop in the radiator, pour more distilled water in. Keep doing this until the water flowing out of the hose is clear. If you're using pre-diluted, shut the engine off, drain the radiator, then fill with pre-diluted, and turn the engine back on. Keep filling with the pre-diluted until it stops running clear. If concentrate, make sure you know how much you need, drain out the radiator, cork it, fill with the concentrate, then start the engine up until you've put enough concentrate.
What I tend to do, rather than do the draining - because I don't want to burp the engine - is wait until the fluid level drops pretty far in the radiator, then start pouring in water, and then later the concentrate. It may waste a bit more water/concentrate, but it means I don't have to stop and turn the engine on and off. It's also as complete of a flush as it's possible to get without dismantling the engine.
Hi, I'm about to try to do a radiator flush on a '03 base Vibe and I'm wondering about this plug and extending with a hose. Could you describe this plug setup or have a picture? What do you make the plug out of? And what do you do to the port on the radiator where you removed the hose -- plug that too?