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Kia Dealer Mailing Makes me an Offer for my 2003 Vibe

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 9:38 am
by jake75
Problem is, offer is low, and even more problematic - I no longer own it."They say they are willing to make me an "aggressive offer". They checked their appraisal guide and it stated that my vehicle in clean condition, could be worth up to $4,850*The fine print: *Amount based on Black Book clean trade-in value at the highest trim level available for this vehicle. A certified inspection and appraisal are required by dealer to determine actual amount.While I know CarMax is high - they currently have 3 2003's listed nationwide2003 AT 29,000 miles 11,9982003 AT 86,000 miles 9,9982003 manual ABS Sunroof ABS 59,000 miles 11,849

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 11:04 am
by zaxellord
Seems like your personal information was sold

Re: Kia Dealer Mailing Makes me an Offer for my 2003 Vibe (jake75)

Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 12:46 pm
by ColonelPanic
I'd say ask them to make good on the offer even if you don't have the car. I get these all the time on my little tin can Accent from the Toyota dealer for some reason. You'd never believe how urgent the need is for a quality pre-owned Hyundai Accent.

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Posted: Thu Mar 15, 2012 1:07 pm
by jake75
Quote, originally posted by zaxellord »Seems like your personal information was soldI wouldn't be surprised if the BMV auto registration information was a public record, but I sold that car over 3 years ago. Some marketing company sells that program to dealers. One would think they would use more current information.Added to that, how many people would think that offer is attractive. I have received mailings saying the would offer $1,000 over fair blue book value. Most people think "fair" means that the dealer is being "fair". As we know, "fair" is a Blue Book condition classification that is just above salvage.

Re: (jake75)

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 2:03 am
by ColonelPanic
Quote, originally posted by jake75 »Most people think "fair" means that the dealer is being "fair". As we know, "fair" is a Blue Book condition classification that is just above salvage. I get those mailings too - above kbb - what a sweet deal! No thanks, I haven't work hard to keep my car in pristine condition to get a slightly above junking the thing trade-in value.

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 5:37 am
by beemerphile1
Public record and easy to find vehicles titled and registered. Finding out you no longer own it is also possible but requires more effort. I'm sure your dealer sends out thousands every month and if the information is inaccurate doesn't matter.In the offer you received they are offering you something between $0 and $4,850 but not a penny more.Keep in mind that anytime a number is preceded by "up to" it negates the number. A single dollar would qualify as "up to" $10,000 but $10,001 would not. In other words, anything under the number qualifies but not a penny more.

Re: (jake75)

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 10:47 am
by zaxellord
Quote, originally posted by jake75 »I wouldn't be surprised if the BMV auto registration information was a public record, but I sold that car over 3 years ago. Some marketing company sells that program to dealers. One would think they would use more current information.Added to that, how many people would think that offer is attractive. I have received mailings saying the would offer $1,000 over fair blue book value. Most people think "fair" means that the dealer is being "fair". As we know, "fair" is a Blue Book condition classification that is just above salvage. They're probably slow in updating the information. Did the notice also say "or occupant"? As far as they're offer, they probably figure you'll have a hard time selling the car (if you still owned it), because it and Pontiac are no more.

Re: (zaxellord)

Posted: Fri Mar 16, 2012 3:31 pm
by jake75
Funny they didn't uncover the 2009 Vibe that I have owned for the past 3 years. At least the Post Office is making a little revenue off of them. If we all mailed back the postage paid envelopes in our junk mail we could accomplish two things. 1. Less junk mail. 2. A reduction in the postal deficit.

Re: (jake75)

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:15 am
by tpollauf
Quote, originally posted by jake75 » If we all mailed back the postage paid envelopes in our junk mail we could accomplish two things. 1. Less junk mail. 2. A reduction in the postal deficit. I've been doing this for several years now. A nice tip I got from Andy Rooney (RIP, former 60 minutes correspondent). Mainly the credit card offers that I constantly get weekly. I try to return as much if not MORE than what they originally sent me. It makes me feel good when I do this

Re: (tpollauf)

Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 2:51 am
by jake75
My favorite to return is the ones from the ACLU.Also those phoney surveys with loaded questions from the political parties.

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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 6:03 am
by ColonelPanic
Lookie what I got in the mail today... Such a cute, (fake) handwritten letter! Complete with fake ink smears! And what a tragedy, ZOMG EVERYBODY'S SHORT ON 2006 HYUNDAIS!!!!!111Vultures.

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Posted: Sat Mar 17, 2012 8:33 pm
by 06pvibe
I got two of these on Friday from a local dealer, though the letters were more professional looking. Same bit though.The first was for my Mazda3 to trade on a new Ford, BUT they would make me a good offer on the car even if I didn't buy a new Ford. They "need to fill their used car lot, and the Mazda3 is SOOO POPULAR!!!"The second, exactly the same as the first, but for the Vibe and from their Chevrolet division.And WOW!!! We bought our Vibe from CarMax (never again, BTW, but we needed a quick replacement) and we paid around the same $$ as those prices for our 2006 base, 5-sp, w/less than 40k miles on the clock... OVER TWO YEARS AGO!!!! Do they mean to say that the value of our car has increased and is now worth +/-13K?? WO-WHOO!!