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do they still make or are they still available the supercharger kits for the 04 base 5sp vibe???Its either supercharging the vibe, or getting a GSXR 600 so im looking at prices and wonderiong what the supercharger kit costs/if its still available

Occasionally you can find one on eBay. Your money would be better spent on a supercharger than a death machine of a GSXR (and I am a motorcycle lover).

they only made the TRD supercharger for two years 03-04. If you're lucky you can find a beat up one for about 1500-2500 depending on what the previous owner added to the set up.

Quote, originally posted by BLACKEDOUTVIB »Or getting a GSXR 600 Why such a small, common bike???

because im oly 16 And a 600 is plenty big enough, and i lovee the gixxer's

I agree with "raffe." And at 16 you shouldn't even be considering a bike, especially a street bike, and your parents shouldn't let you either.You can easily get hurt on a trail/dirt bike, but your chances of surviving a crash are generally much better than on the street where so much is unpredictable and out of your control... if at 16 you have actually developed any.

When I was 16, I was happy enough to have money for a BI-cycle....LOL

Quote, originally posted by cptnsolo77 »When I was 16, I was happy enough to have money for a BI-cycle....LOLWhen I was 16, almost 16 really, w/the help of my grandparents I bought the car of my dreams. I had dreamt of owning a '57 Chevy since I was ten and refused to look at anything else.6 months later, I was T-Boned because even though I tried to be careful behind the wheel I was too inexperienced and made a left hand turn at the end of a yellow light in front of somebody. They came across w/o paying attention either (she was 43 @ the time and driving a brand new Pontiac Grand Prix) and there you have it. 'End of my dream car.It's not wise to choose such an unsafe at-any-time-of-your-life vehicle when you are 16, but with more experience and maturity you stand a better chance of being more responsible and aware when using one. No good can come of it, Blackedout. Please don't go there... yet.

LOL. and that's why insurance on WRX/STI's are so high. I don't understand these parents who think it's a good idea to buy their son/daughter a turbocharged vehicle. Can't tell you how often we see them wrapped around a light pole or in a ditch. Just plain stupid! Get your kid a slow, safe vehicle until they have enough experience to handle anything more.

Quote, originally posted by AKLGT »Get your kid a slow, safe vehicle until they have enough experience to handle anything more. my first ride was a 1977 Dodge Colt. i think my lawnmower had more hp. but looking back, im glad it was my first car. i agree with the people in this thread, don't get the dang bike!

first car I drove was our 1983 Toyota Tercel SR5 wagon... in all her 13 in wheel glory and 100 hp engine (if that). My first car I owned was a 1998 Grand Am SE 4 banger... pretty sure it maybe had 150 hp? LOL. But glad I didn't have anything more powerful than that! Would have killed myself!

Quote, originally posted by DressedInBlack »my first ride was a 1977 Dodge Colt. i think my lawn mower had more hp. but looking back, I'm glad it was my first car. Can't find specs on the '77 model year, but the '84 touted a whopping 68hp!! Wooo-Woooo!! That car had what was essentially a VW Rabbit engine in it. Chrysler designed the cyl head, IIRC... probably why they had so many problems with head gaskets. Quote, originally posted by AKLGT »first car I drove was our 1983 Toyota Tercel SR5 wagon... in all her 13 in wheel glory and 100 hp engine (if that). My first car I owned was a 1998 Grand Am SE 4 banger... pretty sure it maybe had 150 hp? LOL. But glad I didn't have anything more powerful than that! Would have killed myself!'83 Tercel wagon likely had about 78hp... about the same as my 1980 Civic before I started messin' with it.The Grand Am might've been anywhere from 115-180(?)hp depending on the engine. The base SOHC 2.3L claimed 115-120. The DOHC 2.3L claimed 150-180.Were they ever super/turbocharged?

I have to agree with them Jeremy, especially after having experienced first-hand your very immature driving habits. I stopped and yelled at you because I didn't want to see you get in an accident and I don't want to read in the paper that you got in an accident because you got some crotch rocket that you can't handle/don't need.Unfortunately, guys and girls, he was talking about both his dad and his grandpa driving "recklessly" so I have a bad feeling he'll end up with said crotch rocket . I hope, for the sake of himself and everyone else on the road, I'm wrong.My first car was our '94 Pontiac Sunbird LE Sedan. I'm sure it's got less than 100 horsepower, but man was that the best car ever for me. It's still running strong today with 257,xxx miles on it. I agree that a 16 year old should not have some powerful sports car. 16 year olds are the reason there are cars like Sunbirds, Sunfires, Cavaliers, Civics, etc.

Quote, originally posted by BLACKEDOUTVIB »because im oly 16 And a 600 is plenty big enough, and i lovee the gixxer'sAre you planning on taking the MSF course? http://online2.msf-usa.org/msf/Default.aspx This is the one thing I still need to take. My bike's in my sig. Had it for 3 years now... I'll get something bigger eventually!!! I spent a good month practicing with cones, figure 8's, balance, braking, clutch feathering to maintain 2mph without brakes ect before getting my learners. I passed my learners, skills and road test each on the first try. Most will fail one of them! The tests here aren't that demanding, except you only get one second chance to get it right... mess up twice on the same thing and it's automatic fail!!!What motorcycle repair experience do you have? Bikes require about 5 times the maintenance that your Vibe needs!!!Your first bike should be something old, cheap and simple to access repairs. Pulling apart the fairing and gas tank on a gixxer just to change the plugs is a real pain. Also consider that high speed motorcycle tires arn't cheap... http://www.suzukipartspitstop.....aspx and don't plan on getting more then 6000 miles out of them...See you out there!!!!

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Quote, originally posted by J_TO_ENVY »... I stopped and yelled at you because I didn't want to see you get in an accident and I don't want to read in the paper that you got in an accident because you got some crotch rocket that you can't handle/don't need.... I hope, for the sake of himself and everyone else on the road, I'm wrong.My first car was our '94 Pontiac Sunbird LE Sedan. I'm sure it's got less than 100 horsepower .... Quote, originally posted by http://consumerguideauto.howstuffworks. ... unbird.htm »... Nearly all Sunbirds came with a 96-horsepower, 2.0-liter 4-cylinder engine as standard equipment.... My older brother got into an accident that involved a motorcycle, not his fault, but it still affected him for quite a while after. A young man (+/-20) was riding when it started to rain. In a hurry to get out of it, he made an illegal left-hand turn right into my brothers car. His bike when under the front of the car, but he hit the hood and windshield, then flew over it and landed behind. He broke his neck and back in several places. It happened so fast, my brother never even saw him coming. As far as I know and after a year in the hospital, the rider is still in a wheel chair to this day. And don't forget about the court time and expenses something like this takes from you as well. IIRC, it took over two years and several hearings for the courts to determine who was responsible. My brother had to hire a lawyer much of which came out of his and the insurance companies pocket. His insurance rates also went up to astronomical levels during that time. Then there was the time and expense of having his car fixed. In the end, the young man was responsible for it all including all the medical bills. He even tried to blame and sue Suzuki for the accident!! This went on for years after.Would you REALLY want to change places with this young man? There is a lot to think about.. a LOT of responsibility that comes w/driving you MUST consider. Much more than the romantic notions of speed, the wind in your hair, your best girl beside or behind you, etc. A split second can cause a world of hurt in or on a vehicle. You could be paying for an irresponsible moment, in one way or another, for the rest of your life!! Think about that PLEASE.

I hate to jump on the anti-bike bandwagon, but you're only 16. You're not responsible enough to be riding a GSXR. I know, I know, you're "mature for your age" and you'll "respect the throttle"... Unless you've been racing them for several years already and actually know what you're doing with your right wrist (and your left hand and your body positioning and let's not forget the right fingers doing the braking...), then a fire-breathing, flesh-consuming demon of a sportbike is about the worst possible idea imaginable for a teenager who has "very immature driving habits."I love bikes. My wife often complains that I spend more time thinking about bikes than I do about her. Sadly, I'm not exaggerating. It's not that I don't want more people to learn to ride bikes and enjoy the fun and the freedom. I want them to learn correctly and responsibly. Holding on for dear life while that "puny, little, girly 600" is doing it's best to throw you off at every opportunity is not the way.Slow down. You don't need a faster car either.

All right lets end all the immature bull crap right now.I am experienced on a bike, i have been racing midbikes for years now (140cc go about 70-80mph) and have been riding full size bikes for awhile because my grandpa and friends have them,onto the driving reckless....I am an experienceed driver on anything with a motor, driven them all, so i really dont appreciate getting called a reckless driver when all i did was switch into oncoming lanes to pass someone...when i could clearly see 2 miles up the road and no one was coming.

im not trying to be mean, but you cant be an "experienced" driver at age 16. how many hours have you logged in a dump truck or 18-wheeler? just curious.we are concerned for your safety because we know what it's like to be 16 years old and bulletproof. many of us have been driving longer than you have been alive. we speak from experience.

^^^What he said.....

So have you decided on the supercharger yet?Quote, originally posted by BLACKEDOUTVIB »I am experienced on a bike, i have been racing midbikes for years now How about riding in traffic? Big diffrence between the street and the track... especially with all the idiots that cut/turn in front of you. Do you have your motorcycle licence/endorsement yet?

Quote, originally posted by BLACKEDOUTVIB »All right lets end all the immature bull crap right now.I am experienced on a bike, i have been racing midbikes for years now (140cc go about 70-80mph) and have been riding full size bikes for awhile because my grandpa and friends have them,onto the driving reckless....I am an experienceed driver on anything with a motor, driven them all, so i really dont appreciate getting called a reckless driver when all i did was switch into oncoming lanes to pass someone...when i could clearly see 2 miles up the road and no one was coming.WOW! I remember it MUCH differently, but I'm not going to argue with you. Let's just put it this way, if you had truly just passed Tim (there was not even any reason for you to pass him) and there were no cars coming, etc. I would not have bothered stopping to tell you to knock it off!As Geoff said, you absolutely cannot be an experienced driver at the age of 16. I don't care how many midbikes you've ridden, blah blah blah. It just doesn't work that way.

Quote, originally posted by BLACKEDOUTVIB »All right lets end all the immature bull crap right now.I am experienced on a bike, i have been racing midbikes for years now (140cc go about 70-80mph) and have been riding full size bikes for awhile because my grandpa and friends have them,onto the driving reckless....I am an experienceed driver on anything with a motor, driven them all, so i really dont appreciate getting called a reckless driver when all i did was switch into oncoming lanes to pass someone...when i could clearly see 2 miles up the road and no one was coming. As a 16-year-old I was also "experienced with anything with a motor" and I knew I could out-drive anyone on the road. And I never made any mistakes. It was those other idiots on the road that just didn't know enough to get out of my way.Fast forward 17 years. Yeah, I've been driving longer than you've been alive, but not by much. I have ridden more miles on track than most 16-year-olds have driven. I'm just now getting to the point where I consider myself to be halfway decent in relation to vehicle handling dynamics and overall control. Sure I can do things with a bike that would curl the average American driver's hair, but that's just because the average American driver sucks at it. As it happens, my track bike is a GSX-R600, though you'd never guess it if you ever saw me riding my street bike around town. I ride an old-looking 250 on the street. Why? Because the old-looking 250 goes the speed limit just as well as the GSXR. I also don't feel any need to toss the bike around like a moron, so the so-called "better handling" bs that the squids go on about is just another moot point. The 250 handles better anyway...I don't want to discourage you from getting a bike, but I don't want you to get hurt due to inexperience either. Sadly, I've got a pretty good idea where any advice from an old fuddy-duddy like myself will get filed. Most likely in the same place I filed such advice when I was 16 and knew more about driving than anyone else on the road...Be careful out there.

Quote, originally posted by BLACKEDOUTVIBE »I am experienced on a bike, i have been racing midbikes for years now (140cc go about 70-80mph) and have been riding full size bikes for awhile Racing is a completely different environment than open roads. My first bike was a Honda 400 (I don't remember the exact model). I had it for a grand total of 21 hours before somebody didn't see me and pulled out in front of me. I had no time to react and the next thing I recall is laying on top of my bike with my leg being burned by the pipes. It isn't necessarily about how responsible you think you are, but whether or not others motorists will see you. Even in a car you need to be watching out for the idiots on the road. I'm not saying don't get a bike. I want you to make an intelligent decision and not get in over your head. I know how thrilling bikes can be and even with my 14 (legal) years driving experience, I still do things that I probably shouldn't. A bike, especially a sport bike, can be a lot of fun. "With great power comes great responsibility."It is extremely easy to get into a situation where you think you are in total control of everything and suddenly everything changes. All we are asking is that you be careful.

Completely off-topic (as if we haven't been for most of the last page,) LOVE the new sig, Raffe!! (Those tC wheels look GREAT!!)Is that a Psycho-Sig?

Wow, this thread went way off topic...

I was trying to break some of the tension here by getting it further off-topic.... sort of....?

Quote, originally posted by 06pvibe »Completely off-topic (as if we haven't been for most of the last page,) LOVE the new sig, Raffe!! (Those tC wheels look GREAT!!)Is that a Psycho-Sig? It is a Psycho-sig. He did a great job. Thanks for the nice words about the wheels.

Yes he did!! He does very nice, even interesting sig pics.You're welcome. I have thought them to be a great idea for alternative wheels on this car since I first saw yours nearly a year ago. For ours, I would prefer the charcoal colored ones, but the silver would be nice too and work also. Between them, and your drop (which according to my wife, ours will never have) I love the stance and overall look of your Vibe.Simple, understated and beautiful.

Quote, originally posted by 06pvibe »Yes he did!! He does very nice, even interesting sig pics.You're welcome. I have thought them to be a great idea for alternative wheels on this car since I first saw yours nearly a year ago. For ours, I would prefer the charcoal colored ones, but the silver would be nice too and work also. Between them, and your drop (which according to my wife, ours will never have) I love the stance and overall look of your Vibe.Simple, understated and beautiful. Thank you. Now we are really off topic.

Just as well, wouldn't you say?

Quote, originally posted by 06pvibe »Just as well, wouldn't you say? True, although it isn't kind to hijack a thread.

LoL all the kid wanted was to know if he could get a S/C still.

Quote, originally posted by mac99d »LoL all the kid wanted was to know if he could get a S/C still.Not entirely true. In his OP he stated that it was the decision between spending for an SC or a GSXR. Then he admitted to being only 16.He said too much and the controversy began. Quote, originally posted by lovemyraffe »True, although it isn't kind to hijack a thread.Yes, you're right, and I may be assuming too much here, but I feel the original purpose of this thread died quite a while ago.

yea just delete this threadno one can just go along with it. how many of you know me personally??? 1 and she got a bad glimpse of how i drive.if you really want to know whats goin on...im goin for an e85 conversion and tune. Injectors pump tune and resonator delete

Quote, originally posted by BLACKEDOUTVIB »I'm goin for an e85 conversion and tune. Injectors pump tune and resonator deleteWhat compression you gonna run at? Mill the head? With an octane rating of 105-110 you should be able to get away with 14:1!!!

Idk yet I'm still researching on everything. Paycheck Just came in: lowering springs tint and rims are on to do list before engineMods. War lowering springs are good for about a 2 inch drop I heard the tein s techs weren't all great