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Oil filter question
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:47 pm
by dzknmd1
I have always used the ACDelco PF1233 filters on my two Vibes ('03 & '07) just because that would be the GM counterpart for the original equipment filter. However GM no longer manufactures their own filters and I do not consider the Vibe to be a GM product anyway.I have noticed that I am getting barely one full turn on the thread before gasket contact so that gives me about two turns before it is tight. The ACDelco filters on my other GM cars always turn about six times before gasket contact.I am not comfortable with only two threads holding the filter on so I am thinking of changing to genuine Toyota filters to see how they fit. I was wondering if anyone else has experienced this with the ACDelco product.
Re: Oil filter question (dzknmd1)
Posted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 7:37 pm
by keithvibe
can't help with the ac delco, i've only been using the toyota filters
Re: Oil filter question (keithvibe)
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 8:34 am
by vibenvy
Quote, originally posted by vibedrivermatt »can't help with the ac delco, i've only been using the toyota filtersSame here. Haven't had any issues with the Toyota oil filters.
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:10 am
by Old Tele man
...except for the original OEM filter it came off the production line with, I've been using the "new" ECO-friendly Toyota cartridge elements in my 2009 1.8L Vibe.
Re: Oil filter
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:33 am
by dzknmd1
Thanks guys. I think I'll be changing to the Toyota filters from now on. Can't go wrong that way.
Re: Oil filter question (dzknmd1)
Posted: Tue Aug 10, 2010 11:44 am
by Zimm
ACDelco does not manufacture any of their own parts anymore. the parts are either sourced from one of the companies that makes parts for all brands (i.e. Fram/Wix, etc) or directly from the company that makes the OEM part. in the case of my '10 Vibe, the OEM part is ACDelco, meaning it's probably made by either Fram or Toyota's parts supplier, as they are the only 2 sources i've found for oil filters.
Re: Oil filter question (dzknmd1)
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 7:47 am
by TONY TAT2
I did notice usen the purolator filter,it gets kinda crushed,like it's a tad too long.
Re: Oil filter question (dzknmd1)
Posted: Wed Aug 11, 2010 9:17 am
by mntn-biker
I use Fram Tough Guard filters on my vehicles (they all have over 90k miles). I have always been able to start spinning the filter on the thread about 1/2" to 3/4" before it contacts the gasket. If what you are saying is true, it sounds like you have about 1/8" - 1/4" thread engagement . I am surprised that you have not lost your filter or stripped the threads on the filter during install.
Re: Oil filter question (mntn-biker)
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 11:14 am
by dzknmd1
I agree, less than two turns is not nearly enough. I picked up a couple of Toyota filters today.It is a fact that ACDelco does not manufacture anything anymore. Their batteries come from Johnson Controls. JCI manufactures about 75% of the batteries in North America, both original equipment and aftermarket. I believe that most of the ACDelco filters are sourced from Champ filters. Quote, originally posted by mntn-biker »I use Fram Tough Guard filters on my vehicles (they all have over 90k miles). I have always been able to start spinning the filter on the thread about 1/2" to 3/4" before it contacts the gasket. If what you are saying is true, it sounds like you have about 1/8" - 1/4" thread engagement . I am surprised that you have not lost your filter or stripped the threads on the filter during install. Quote, originally posted by mntn-biker »I use Fram Tough Guard filters on my vehicles (they all have over 90k miles). I have always been able to start spinning the filter on the thread about 1/2" to 3/4" before it contacts the gasket. If what you are saying is true, it sounds like you have about 1/8" - 1/4" thread engagement . I am surprised that you have not lost your filter or stripped the threads on the filter during install. Quote, originally posted by mntn-biker »I use Fram Tough Guard filters on my vehicles (they all have over 90k miles). I have always been able to start spinning the filter on the thread about 1/2" to 3/4" before it contacts the gasket. If what you are saying is true, it sounds like you have about 1/8" - 1/4" thread engagement . I am surprised that you have not lost your filter or stripped the threads on the filter during install.
Posted: Tue Aug 17, 2010 6:04 pm
by shaeet
super-tech cheapo filters FTW! Better than crap fram filters & made by Champion (some ares of the USA they are made by Wix). Mine definitely don't hang on by only 2 threads..more like 6-7 before the gasket is tightened properly.
Re: Oil filter question (dzknmd1)
Posted: Wed Aug 18, 2010 8:38 am
by ou.grizzly
Have used AC Delco or Toyota oil filters on our 2004, 2008, and (2) 2009 Vibes. Never had an issue with either.
Re: Oil filter question (ou.grizzly)
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:27 pm
by doug_dornbos
I have just purchased a 2009 Vibe AWD with the 2.4L motor and upon looking up the oil filter number in various cross references, I find that the Matrix filter is a different number than the Vibe number. I compared all the specs for the two filters and find that each and every spec is exactly the same except the length of the Matrix filter is about a half inch longer than the Vibe filter. Has anyone experienced any issues one way or another with this? In all the engines I've owned in the past, I've always went with the bigger filter if more than one was available but I just wanted to check.
Re: Oil filter question (doug_dornbos)
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 9:52 pm
by Water boy
If you go 5K or less on your oil change then Wally_World Super Tech is the best way to go.For more detailed info visit...
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...s.phpFram almost always gets a trash rating.Wix Gold gets high ratings.I've never had any "1-turn" issues.
Re: Oil filter question (Water boy)
Posted: Sun Aug 29, 2010 11:00 pm
by shaeet
Quote, originally posted by Water boy »If you go 5K or less on your oil change then Wally_World Super Tech is the best way to go.For more detailed info visit...
http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/...s.phpFram almost always gets a trash rating.Wix Gold gets high ratings.I've never had any "1-turn" issues.hellz yea..i've been a BITOG member for years...that forum is pretty hardcore if you are obsessed with lubes (lolz).Exactly, kinda ridiculous how ppl get suckered into buying FRAM garbage and its usually one of the more expensive brands, but the most-readily available (at least where i live). Apparently, before Allied Signal bought the Fram brand, they were one of the best filters on the market (in the 80's & before) but now they are probably the worst you can buy regardless of what sub-line you buy. I have seen forum posts about the glue separating from the paper filter element & cardboard endcaps leaking. Champion makes the Super Tech brand filters & walmart almost always stocks the OE size for the corolla/matrix/vibe. They are about $2.49-2.99 each