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Step right up folks, new Chevy Volt only $41,000

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:19 am
by jake75
http://wheels.blogs.nytimes.co...sema1

Re: Step right up folks, new Chevy Volt only $41,000 (jake75)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:27 am
by cptnsolo77
Wow....did think it would be THAT expensive. I have had my eye on the VW passat CC....until I found out a well optioned model will run you about 40K....LOL.

Re: Step right up folks, new Chevy Volt only $41,000 (cptnsolo77)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:33 am
by lovemyraffe
No thanks. Why so expensive? The Nissan Leaf starts at $25,000.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:34 am
by ponta2147
Ehh, it's about what I expected... it's called early adoption, how much did the first generation iPhone cost? now you can get one for less than a hundred bucks. I think the Volt's platform is the best hybrid platform out there (so far) because a series hybrid is way more efficient... just wait, if this takes off it will be everywhere, for a lot cheaper. Plus, you can actually drive 340 miles in this car (40 all-electric) before you have to go get gas... same as a normal car... no short limits where you have to go plug in again... I like it.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 2:44 am
by Kari
New things are always pricey when they first come out, then the price comes down. How much was your first DVD player if you bought one in the late 90s? How much would that same one be now? Same for CD players. Discmans were over $100...now you can pick one up for $20.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 3:53 am
by Old Tele man
...and, WORTH every ½¢ of that price!...especially since both Honda and Toyota are only about HALF that price.

Re: (Old Tele man)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:01 am
by ponta2147
Quote, originally posted by Old Tele man »...and, WORTH every ½¢ of that price!...especially since both Honda and Toyota are only about HALF that price.But they have totally different hybrid technology... they are parallel hybrids... this is a series hybrid... it's very different... I bet it will be comparable in price in 5 years or so, provided the early adopters don't mind the premium to subsidize the rest of us (though the federal gov't is subsidizing a lot of it too........)

Re: (Kari)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:13 am
by cptnsolo77
True!!!If your old enough to remember Betamax & VHS, I remember to buy a movie it cost about 80 bucks!!!......LOL

Re: (Old Tele man)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 4:17 am
by scherry2
Quote, originally posted by Old Tele man »...and, WORTH every ½¢ of that price!...especially since both Honda and Toyota are only about HALF that price.I also think there is a size difference the leaf is a micro car compared to the volt.

Re: (scherry2)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 5:31 am
by keithvibe
this is just a HUGE waist of money!And with the ratecap that was just lifted electric is SKY highyou can get 50+mpg with biodiesel, it's cheaper and you won't need to search for a freaking plug you can plug your car in to.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:37 am
by djkeev
Sad, after years of hype to so totally miss where the market for this car lives!It is just another wealthy person's toy. Real people need a car that will operate in the real world.IF Chevy had brought this out to compete in the commuter's car market they would have changed motoring history. As it is, they will be a curious footnote regarding electric hype in the history books.Sad, so very very sad.Dave

Re: (djkeev)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 7:35 am
by Mojo72
Thanks, but no thanks.

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 8:30 am
by Cougar Vibe
It looks like GM is going to be working the leasing side of things inre the Volt: ~$350/month, 36 months, $2500 down.TTAC Volt ArticleAlso, the little 80hp engine will require premium fuel...crazy.

Re: (djkeev)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 9:01 am
by Tubaryan12
Quote, originally posted by djkeev »Sad, after years of hype to so totally miss where the market for this car lives! It is just another wealthy person's toy. Exactly. That's how it works. Those with cash to burn buy in first and make it cheaper for the rest of us. I don't have a problem with this at all. Like others have posted before this: All new technology is expensive at first. then the price comes down. This will be no different. When hybrids first hit the market, they were small and expensive for the price. Now, for the same amount of money, you can get a mid sized hybrid a real family can fit in. It is what it is.

Re: (Tubaryan12)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 10:54 am
by star_deceiver
And since it's a GM product, the depreciation will be HUGE!!!Still.... I'm happy with whay I've got!

Re: (star_deceiver)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:15 am
by DeClerq
Don't forget the tax credit. Still kind of pricey though.http://www.foxnews.com/leisure...month/Quote »While the price is about $8,000 more than its closest rival, the Nissan Leaf, GM said it will offer a $350-per-month lease deal that's essentially equal to the Leaf's. That will put the battery-powered Volt within reach of many people, GM said.Both cars also are eligible for a federal tax credit that will cut their prices by $7,500. The Volt would fall to $33,500 while the Leaf's would drop to $25,280 from nearly $33,000.

Re: Step right up folks, new Chevy Volt only $41,000 (jake75)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 6:18 pm
by waveresponder
finally got contacted by head of sales for the Ford Transit Connect Electric via actual phone call twice and email"As mentioned the MSRP is $66,500.00 . There is a $7,500.00 tax credit that can be used making it $59,000.00. "really wanted to put me on order list..........you can buy 3 of the regular versions at that price ($21,475 base MSRP) http://www.fordvehicles.com/transitconnect/im still in search of securing funds for purchase of one to be used for my volunteer fire company as a traffic control vehicle.Chevy Volt price also

Re: Step right up folks, new Chevy Volt only $41,000 (waveresponder)

Posted: Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:42 pm
by jkm311
Leaf v. Volt is an apples-to-oranges comparison. The Leaf ONLY runs on electric, and only for 100 miles. Not only that, it requires over 20 hours to full charge on a standard 120v current (household). Even a 240v charge is 8 hours. Are you kidding me?! Hate to spend all the money on one of these and not remember to charge the dumb thing the night before for my morning commute. The Volt (as Michelle pointed out) is a series hybrid. The second you go beyond the 40 miles it can run without a drop of gas, a small generator kicks in to give you 300 more miles. No charging to get that range. And charge time? HALF of what the Leaf requires. Which, with only a 40 mile range, it should be, but still. At least the Volt won't shut down on me for lack of charge. I'd love to have a vehicle with zero emissions (not counting the emissions expelled to produce the electricity used to charge it), but baby steps, here. if anything, the Leaf is a decent start for a no gasoline/emissions/oil concept, but the Chevy is more practical. And for now, that is why the prices are as such.Free Press article comparing the two:http://www.freep.com/article/2...l-win-

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:15 am
by kostby
41-grand! Wow.If you want one, just wait'll the lots are full of them next year, and GM is offering $12,000 *cash-back, plus the tax credit.*cash-back: It's the only way GM has ever found to move slow-selling vehicles, bribe the buyers. Now new and improved with taxpayer money.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 2:56 am
by KNINE
Typical of this whole "green" movement. What a joke. I'll tell Al Gore where he can stick his carbon footprint.

Re: (K-NINE)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:12 am
by ponta2147
Quote, originally posted by K-NINE »Typical of this whole "green" movement. What a joke. I'll tell Al Gore where he can stick his carbon footprint. I don't think it's that bad. Really similar to the diesel-electric technology that locomotives ALREADY use, only with the addition of the battery thing, and not using diesel. I bet it could be totally awesome if they used a diesel engine since the tech has been perfected on a large scale... I agree the battery is more for the "green" people but it's a much neater concept than the Toyota or Honda hybrids in terms of actually being able to truly run on no gas for any speed up to 40 miles.

Re: (ponta2147)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:39 am
by jkm311
And when I win the lottery, I'll be driving a Tesla Roadster, anyhow. 3.7 sec. 0-60, nearly 250 miles per charge, and looks like this? Count me in (when I win the $101k to pay for it, that is):

Re: (jkm311)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 4:49 am
by ponta2147
YES, TESLA. Mmmmmmmm.

Re: Step right up folks, new Chevy Volt only $41,000 (jake75)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:48 pm
by ColonelPanic
Considering how easily people have been willing to part with a lot more than that for their gas guzzling trucks/SUV's, I guess this isn't too bad. At least $20,000 out of my price range though. In the Volt's defense, the $350/mo lease deal isn't too terrible. I'm used to paying a higher payment than that (thanks to years of debt being rolled over from car to car. ) IMHO, leasing would be the way to go with one of these. Who knows what that thing would cost you to fix if it were yours, there are too many unknowns with this thing. Return it and let it be GM's problem after a couple of years. The technology will trickle down to "lesser" cars that us ordinary folks can afford, it always does.

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 1:54 pm
by ponta2147
I agree about the leasing, at that price it is the same as what I am paying for my car (well, my loan is a lot lower, but I am trying to pay off faster b.c I took out a really long loan), and leasing is best for unproven technology (no hassle of trying to upkeep when it is old!) though alas no mods allowed...

Re: (jkm311)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 7:35 pm
by djkeev
Quote, originally posted by jkm311 »And when I win the lottery, I'll be driving a Tesla Roadster, anyhow. 3.7 sec. 0-60, nearly 250 miles per charge, and looks like this? Count me in (when I win the $101k to pay for it, that is):FYI Your dream may be closer and more affordable than you may realize..... Telsa is teaming up with Toyota and making a Telsa powered RAV 4http://usnews.rankingsandrevie...-RAV4-/Dave

Re: (djkeev)

Posted: Wed Jul 28, 2010 10:40 pm
by TONY TAT2
Only 1 12v battery