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Trading in a 98 cherokee for the voucher, plus dealer discount, and GMS discount, pickup car this coming Monday, Dealer called today and won't be able to deliver tomorrow ( Friday ) as paperwork and procedures not in place yet. 2.4, perfered pkg, auto and 17"s, Darth Vader Black.

Sheesh, you in a rush or something?Congrats and welcome! Also, welcome to the cash for clunker club! If you're getting GMS pricing make sure you're also getting GMS rebates. My dealer tried to pull a fast one on me and give me the regular rebate, but I set them straight.

Congrats on the klunker rebate ! & the new ride I had my vibe the minute I signed the paperwork,I still gota go back & get the ON STAR programed in ,Im just not in the mood tho.

Congrats and welcome. I'm another cash for clunkers purchaser. Things are moving slow as far as paperwork and dealer registration. I might be able to pick up my Vibe tomorrow morning, if not then Monday. Just talked to my salesman and he is checking into it. They have written a lot of contracts using this program but haven't finalized and delivered any yet.2009 base 1.8LPreferred groupAutomaticAir Conditioning$11,658.60 total out the door OH YEAH!

Quote, originally posted by BahamaTodd »Sheesh, you in a rush or something?Congrats and welcome! Also, welcome to the cash for clunker club! If you're getting GMS pricing make sure you're also getting GMS rebates. My dealer tried to pull a fast one on me and give me the regular rebate, but I set them straight. How does the GMS rebate differ?

GMS rebate is $4000 on the Vibe right now. Regular rebate is only $2500.

Almost makes me want to go out and buy someones clunker. Rebate+cash for clunkers+employee discount=win...I think I still get employee discounts anyway.

Quote, originally posted by IMakeVibes »Almost makes me want to go out and buy someones clunker. Rebate+cash for clunkers+employee discount=win...I think I still get employee discounts anyway.Won't work, you have to have owned and had it road worthy and licensed for the previous year.Dave

Welcome and congrats! Good choice! I'm proud of all you former clunkers club!

Quote, originally posted by BahamaTodd »GMS rebate is $4000 on the Vibe right now. Regular rebate is only $2500.$1,500 more! That is "real" money - amazing. I read on Edmunds where there is $500 dealerr incentive money on the '09's now; One local dealer has been adv. $1,000 under what looks like invoice so maybe the GMS is only a $500 advantage. Still "real money".

Quote, originally posted by IMakeVibes »Almost makes me want to go out and buy someones clunker. Rebate+cash for clunkers+employee discount=win...I think I still get employee discounts anyway.Are employee discounts better than invoice - $4,000?

Dealer Ads in today's papers mostly focusing on the Cash for Clunkers. One dealer (ex. Germain Nissan) has an ad with the low net prices in really big type, with a disclaimer in mice size very light type at the bottom explaining that it is after a $4,500 cash for clunkers incentive. Probably very few are misled but I think it makes the dealer look like a shyster. As my mother used to say, they lie when the truth would sound better.Virtually all car ads in Ohio are misleading in my opinion because they fail to include or disclose the padded $250 doc fee - the Attorney General does not make them disclose if not more than $250. A reasonable doc fee might be $100 in my opinion. It was $50 when I bought my 2003 Vibe, $100 when I bought my 2004 T&C and now is $250. IMO manufacturer ads that present prices that do not include the destination charge are also misleading.

Quote, originally posted by jake75 »Virtually all car ads in Ohio are misleading in my opinion because they fail to include or disclose the padded $250 doc fee - the Attorney General does not make them disclose if not more than $250. What is even worse is when the dealer's closer lies to you about the fee. I was shopping for a truck a few months back and had the closer make the statement that it is a government mandated $250 fee. I informed the person that I was aware of the fact that it is not a mandated fee but that the government only sets a maximum fee of $250. The dealer is free to charge any amount they want up to $250, or not charge at all. I don't do business with someone that I catch lying to me, because I ask myself what else they are lying about. I walked out without buying.

Several years ago I was visiting my dad down in Florida and was looking through the Sunday paper... I couldn't believe the low prices they quoted on cars. Then I noticed that all the prices, and monthly payments were based on $5,000 or $7,000 downpayments.Hell, there are plenty of cars that only costs $199/mo if you've got $5k- $10k to put down as a downpayment. Why not just pay cash and not have a car payment at all!! LOL

Another CARS member: got my Vibe on Friday.

Quote, originally posted by beemerphile1 »What is even worse is when the dealer's closer lies to you about the fee. I was shopping for a truck a few months back and had the closer make the statement that it is a government mandated $250 fee. I informed the person that I was aware of the fact that it is not a mandated fee but that the government only sets a maximum fee of $250. The dealer is free to charge any amount they want up to $250, or not charge at all. I don't do business with someone that I catch lying to me, because I ask myself what else they are lying about. I walked out without buying.I had a discussion about this with the Ohio AG's office sometime ago. My recollection is that an auto dealer can charge any fee they want, but if it is over $250 the AG says it has to be disclosed in price advertising etc. The Auto dealer lobby donates a lot of money to Ohio politicians. As I have said many times, Ohio has the best legislature money can buy, and that happens day on and day out. Of course Ohio is not alone in that regard - note recent news about New Jersey, and then there is the Illinois Governor.

Quote, originally posted by jake75 »Are employee discounts better than invoice - $4,000?No, but we get whatever rebate is currently offered in addition to the employee pricing. Just took a look at the pricing sheets for the '09 and '010 Vibes. Its about $1200-$1600 off and then a certain amount for each option. So, a fully loaded Vibe could fetch about $2000 off in addition to the current rebate(s) and CARS certificate, which would be close to half off.BTW Employees are still able to pass on supplier discounts to friends. This is only a few hundred off though. Not sure how this would work in addition to the CARS program and current rebates, but it should work.

I traded in my 99 Ford F150 V8 and got a nice deal on a base Vibe with manual this afternoon. Its so solid, smooth, and quiet, it feels like driving a space ship to me...and the radio rocks to boot. All with excellent mileage and without feeling like an economy car.The manager of the dealership came by telling all the salesmen that the CARS program had officially ended about an hour after my transaction had been registered on the CARS website...whew! That was close!Richard

WOW !!!!! Who was it that said, " Whats you hurry in buying, one week and the moneys GONE !!!! Glad I bought mine last Monday !!

Quote, originally posted by markd78 »WOW !!!!! Who was it that said, " Whats you hurry in buying, one week and the moneys GONE !!!! That's exactly what I was thinking!!!!

was that c.a.r.s program just for cars made in the US, or was it for buying any car? seems like the US owning a major stake in certain auto companies, the deal would bee limited to those companies, or at least to cars made in the USA.

If it was limited to cars just made in the U.S. that would have worked against the car companies the govt. bailed out, not helped them. Toyota and Honda would have liked such a restriction.