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G.M. Exits Venture With Toyota at California Plant

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 2:45 am
by trb
Just saw this on my online New York Times:By NICK BUNKLEY; Micheline Maynard contributed reporting. 677 words 30 June 2009The New York Times Late Edition - Final2EnglishCopyright 2009 The New York Times Company. All Rights Reserved. DETROIT -- General Motors said Monday that it was pulling out of its joint venture with Toyota, a longstanding partnership between two of the auto industry's biggest rivals that exposed G.M. to more efficient Japanese manufacturing techniques and produced Toyota's first American-made vehicles.The joint venture, known as New United Motor Manufacturing Inc., or Nummi, has built more than six million vehicles at a plant in Fremont, Calif., since 1984. The plant builds two Toyota models, the Corolla sedan and Tacoma pickup truck, and a small crossover vehicle for G.M., the Pontiac Vibe.G.M. is eliminating the Pontiac brand next year and plans to discontinue the Vibe in August. It said Monday that it was unable to reach an agreement with Toyota ''on a future product plant that made sense for all parties'' and that its stake in the Nummi plant would not be part of the company after emerging from bankruptcy later this summer.''It's the end of a remarkable educational experiment,'' said James P. Womack, the chairman of the Lean Enterprise Institute, an organization in Cambridge, Mass., that promotes efficiency in manufacturing and commerce.''The product was never the point at this plant,'' Mr. Womack said. ''It was a way for Toyota to figure out how to apply its system in the United States and for G.M. to try to figure out how Toyota was doing the things it was doing.''G.M.'s withdrawal from the venture, which is half owned by each of the companies, creates an uncertain future for the Fremont plant, which has more than 4,700 employees in five million square feet of assembly space. It is the last auto plant operating in California and Toyota's only plant represented by the United Automobile Workers.Toyota said in a statement that it was sorry G.M. was pulling out and that it had not decided what to do with the plant. ''We will consider alternatives by taking into account various factors, including the current distressed market conditions, our overall North American manufacturing capacity, and the viability of the facility as a stand-alone operation without G.M. production,'' the statement said.Nummi has been running well below capacity for some time. Now, analysts say the deep industry downturn, coupled with G.M.'s decision to cut its ties, gives Toyota an opportunity to shut the plant. However, Toyota executives are sensitive to the American political climate, and the company could choose to keep the plant open in some fashion rather than risk the heat of shutting it down and eliminating jobs held by U.A.W. members.Toyota recently denied reports that it might build its hybrid sedan, the Prius, at Nummi.Both of the vehicles that Toyota builds in Fremont are also assembled elsewhere: the Corolla in Canada and the Tacoma in Mexico. (By producing the small Tacoma in California, Toyota avoids a tariff that the United States imposes on imported compact pickup trucks.)When Nummi was formed, Toyota was a comparatively small but rapidly growing player in the United States while G.M. had a firm grip on its title as the world's largest automaker. Toyota unseated G.M. at the industry's pinnacle last year, aided by what it learned from Nummi.G.M., meanwhile, was a slow learner and only recently began successfully applying the techniques it gained from working with Toyota, Mr. Womack said. Now, Nummi has outlived its usefulness for G.M. and is far away from all of the company's other manufacturing locations.''They learned a great deal in theory but nothing in practice for about 15 years,'' he said. ''G.M. has learned what they could and they don't need that capacity anymore.''

Re: G.M. Exits Venture With Toyota at California Plant (trb)

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:09 am
by BlueCrush
REPOST: http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=37830& Wrong Section - should have been in the Latest News Section if it was a new topic.

Re: G.M. Exits Venture With Toyota at California Plant (BlueCrush)

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:36 am
by trb
Sorry for not following the proper etiquette, but I've seen other posts of a similar nature in this forum so I thought it was the place. I've never looked at the latest news section. I'll just go back to my corner now and be quiet.

Re: G.M. Exits Venture With Toyota at California Plant (trb)

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 3:57 am
by jake75
Don't forget to pay the $50 fine!

Re: G.M. Exits Venture With Toyota at California Plant (trb)

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:00 am
by BlueCrush
No need to be sorry or go into a corner. Just trying to reduce the # of redundant posts.

Re: G.M. Exits Venture With Toyota at California Plant (BlueCrush)

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 4:03 am
by michaelgt
Quote, originally posted by BlueCrush »No need to be sorry or go into a corner. Just trying to reduce the # of redundant posts.Or reduce the opportunities to BASH GM?

Re: G.M. Exits Venture With Toyota at California Plant (michaelgt)

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:27 am
by ColonelPanic
Bashing GM is the in thing these days, everybody's doing it. We all own this company now, how come we're not entitled to speak our mind on the decisions they're making and what they're doing with our hard earned money?

Re: G.M. Exits Venture With Toyota at California Plant (ColonelPanic)

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 9:56 am
by jake75
Then there ought to be an "owner's" discount.

Re: G.M. Exits Venture With Toyota at California Plant (jake75)

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 10:20 am
by ColonelPanic
Good luck with that one! Always looking for a deal.

Re: G.M. Exits Venture With Toyota at California Plant (trb)

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 5:10 pm
by djkeev
Quote, originally posted by trb »Sorry for not following the proper etiquette, but I've seen other posts of a similar nature in this forum so I thought it was the place. I've never looked at the latest news section. I'll just go back to my corner now and be quiet. Now go Directly to Jail, DO NOT pass Go, DO NOT collect $200. If you have a get out of jail free card you may use it on your next turn. Dave

Re: G.M. Exits Venture With Toyota at California Plant (ColonelPanic)

Posted: Tue Jun 30, 2009 8:47 pm
by michaelgt
Quote, originally posted by ColonelPanic »Bashing GM is the in thing these days, everybody's doing it. We all own this company now, how come we're not entitled to speak our mind on the decisions they're making and what they're doing with our hard earned money? You are entitled to speak your mind, just like you can about the banks, the treasury dept, medicare, or any other government run entity. I just hope people do research to support their opinions, or our willing to listen to others opinion that may have done more research.I believe that many people have discovered how difficult it is to manufacture and sell automobiles. If the government was regulating refrigerators, ovens/stoves, dishwashers, etc. for efficiency, they would face additional complexities.

Re: G.M. Exits Venture With Toyota at California Plant (michaelgt)

Posted: Wed Jul 01, 2009 2:26 am
by jake75
Quote, originally posted by michaelgt » If the government was regulating refrigerators, ovens/stoves, dishwashers, etc. for efficiency, they would face additional complexities. I think they do! At least for dishwashers and refrigerators. Energy Star etc.