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Vibe is to survive?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:49 am
by PopeyeFAFL
According to this Montreal French Newspaper (La Presse), GM will announce next Monday that the Vibe will survive?Is it true, or that journalist got mixed-up with the fact that the Vibe is suppose to still be produce up to late 2010?I couldn't find that information elsewhere.http://monvolant.cyberpresse.c...c.php

Re: Vibe is to survive? (PopeyeFAFL)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:24 am
by 808 Vibes
Can't read it. But I know someone who can. Hold on...

Re: Vibe is to survive? (PopeyeFAFL)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:30 am
by Sputnik
Yeah I couldn't find an english link on the page. The closest I could find in google news is this one:http://wot.motortrend.com/6545....htmlBut it doesn't even mention the Vibe.

Re: Vibe is to survive? (Sputnik)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:44 am
by 808 Vibes
I've emailed the link to 2 translators, but because of the time difference between me and France (exactly 12 hours) it'll be awhile before they reply to me. They're still sleeping.

Re: Vibe is to survive? (HawaiiPontiacLover)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:48 am
by Sputnik
LOL well there are several members here who can translate it including the original poster. I can only translate bits of it. Je ne parle pas Francais.

Re: Vibe is to survive? (Sputnik)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 9:56 am
by 808 Vibes
Oh OK.

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:11 am
by lowincash
here's what i got from google translator =PAgainst all odds, the Pontiac Vibe escape the guillotine of the GM. C'est du moins ce que laisse entendre le site médiatique du constructeur américain qui précise même les transformations apportées à ce modèle pour 2010. This at least suggests that the site of the American media, which even specifies the changes made to this model for 2010. La direction de GM au Canada confirmera la nouvelle lundi, au même moment où elle révélera la liste des véhicules qui défendront ses couleurs l'an prochain (Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet et GMC). The direction of GM in Canada confirmed the new Monday, at the same time it will reveal the list of vehicles that will defend the colors next year (Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet and GMC). Sur le site réservé aux professionnels de médias, on y apprend au sujet de la Vibe que la climatisation figurera désormais sur les caractéristiques de série des différentes livrées (Base, AWD et GT), qu'une galerie de toit s'offre sur la livrée AWD alors que les livrées équipées du moteur 1,8 litre peuvent être commandées avec les groupes «Cargo management» et «Sun & Sound». On the site reserved for media professionals, we learn about the Vibe that air conditioning is now on the features of different delivered (base, AWD and GT), a roof rack available on the livery AWD while delivered equipped with the 1.8 liter engine can be ordered with groups Cargo management "and" Sun & Sound ". Issue d'une coentreprise avec Toyota aux États-Unis, la Vibe est assemblée, rappelons-le, à l'usine NUMMI (New United Motor Manufacturing Inc.) située à Fremont dans l'état de la Californie. Following a joint venture with Toyota in the United States, the Vibe is assembled, we recall, the plant NUMMI (New United Motor Manufacturing Inc.). Located in Fremont in the state of California. L'année dernière, celle-ci a donné naissance à 70 839 unités de la Vibe Last year, it gave birth to 70 839 units Vibe sorry don't know why it looks all weird when i paste it o_O it's all english when i translated from google.

Re: Vibe is to survive? (HawaiiPontiacLover)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:19 am
by BadBrew
Against all odds, the Pontiac Vibe will survive the GM cuts. According to the GM media relations website, even some modifications will be done.GM Canada management will confirm on Monday during a press conference all vehicles that will be wearing the GM emblem for next year (Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet and GMC)On the private media website, we could learn, for the Vibe, that the A/C will be delivered to all packages, a roof rack (roughly translated, it sounds like a cargo box or more racking options) will be delivered with the AWD package and 1.8L engines can be delivered with the Cargo management and/or "Sun and Sound" options.blablabla Toyota partnership, blablabla NUMMI blablabla California.70839 Vibes where produced last year.Sounds a bit like this (CAREFUL lots of Vibe haters wrote comments): http://jalopnik.com/5285970/sw...oyota

Re: (lowincash)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:20 am
by BadBrew
ahah! mine's better

Re: (BadBrew)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:32 am
by Sputnik
Quote, originally posted by BadBrew »ahah! mine's better Nice. Google probably translates to France French, not French Canadian...

Re: Vibe is to survive? (PopeyeFAFL)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:38 am
by PopeyeFAFL
Here my translation:The Vibe will survive Pontiac.Against all odds, the Pontaic Vibe will escape the ax from GM. This is at least what the American constructor’s media site mention and even precise the transformation for this model in 2010.Monday the GM Canada direction will confirm the new, together with which vehicle list will defends it’s colours (Buick, Cadillac, Chevrolet & GMC).On a site reserved for media professionals, we learn that the air conditioning will now be a standard feature of the different model (Base, AWD & GT), a roof rack will be offer on the AWD while the 1.8 L engine configuration could also be equipped with the “cargo group” & the “Sun & Sound”.Joint venture with Toyota in the USA, the Vibe is assembled at the NUMMI (New United Motor Manufacturing Inc.) factory located in Fremont, California. Last year 70 839 Vibe were built.

Re: Vibe is to survive? (PopeyeFAFL)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:11 am
by jake75
It would not be all that surprising to see the Vibe under the Buick nameplate. GM had already said that there would be some broadening of the Buick line at the lower end. Keeping the Vibe would make more sense than putting a different dress on a Chevy model. Plus it might help avoid the need for a fire sale to sell out the Pontiac version, so if GM is going to keep Vibe as a Buick it is in their best interest to let it be known as soon as possible. Finally, it solves the immediate question of what to do with the Nummi operation. After all the *****ing and moaning here about the demise of the Vibe it would be funny to see that the Vibe will continue after all.And - wouldn't you really rather have a Buick! Now if Chrysler changes its mind on the PT Cruiser . . . all the small car nuts of the world would rest easier.

Re: (BadBrew)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:48 am
by Kari
I must say I like Google Translator's flair when it comes to "escaping the guillotine of GM" versus "escaping cuts."

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:05 pm
by lovemyraffe
A Buick? Seriously?

Re: (lovemyraffe)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 12:40 pm
by BadBrew
Quote, originally posted by lovemyraffe »A Buick? Seriously?Remove the Pontiac arrow, vertical chrome front gril, add some chrome on the sides, leather interior.Make sure the name does not offend French Canadians (I am...)Voilà!

Re: (lovemyraffe)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 1:22 pm
by jake75
Quote, originally posted by lovemyraffe »A Buick? Seriously?While the Buick demographics may be tilted toward old farts like me, their vehicles have received good reviews in the past few years.And lower end Buicks do not have leather interiors standard.

Re: (BadBrew)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:52 pm
by PopeyeFAFL
"Make sure the name does not offend French Canadians (I am...)"You mean, like the Buick LaCrosse, LOLP.S.: I'm Québécois aussi.

Re: (lovemyraffe)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 7:53 pm
by PopeyeFAFL
Do you all prefer the Vibe to return as a Chevy or a Buick?

Re: (PopeyeFAFL)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 8:53 pm
by ehoff121
There was a story on Naitonal Public Radio yesterday in the US that interviewed a Chevrolet dealer in Maryland who had dropped the brand in favor of Nissan. His experience was that Chevy was an "entry-level" brand and no one in the wealthy suburbs of Bethesda would park one next to their Mercedes; it has no status.http://www.npr.org/templates/s...63320 I'd say Buick, but I'm not thrilled with it...

Re: (ehoff121)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:18 pm
by vibolista
Can our French contingent come up with a new Buick-ish Vibe name? How about something out of 'Joie de Vivre'... could it be Buick Joie de Vibe? How about the Buick Sur le Vibe... or Buick Sur-Vibe. Buick Rendez-Vous Vibe. My last shot, I promise... Buick Deja vu Vibe. If the Vibe lives on within the remaining Chevy/Buick/Caddy/GMC brand structure, could we get someone to make those little white oval country ID stickers with - Sur - on them so we can stick them in front of our Vibe badge on the rear hatch?

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 10:28 pm
by Eloi
I foound this article about this:http://news.car2be.com/2009/06...and-2/From what I understand, it just says that there will be a last Vibe for 2010, not that the Vibe will survive after 2010.

Re: (ehoff121)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:20 pm
by lovemyraffe
Quote, originally posted by ehoff121 »There was a story on Naitonal Public Radio yesterday in the US that interviewed a Chevrolet dealer in Maryland who had dropped the brand in favor of Nissan. His experience was that Chevy was an "entry-level" brand and no one in the wealthy suburbs of Bethesda would park one next to their Mercedes; it has no status.http://www.npr.org/templates/s...63320 I'd say Buick, but I'm not thrilled with it...The Vibe is much more of an "entry-level" vehicle than an luxury vehicle. And although Buick has been getting better reviews in the past few years, that does not mean the Vibe should be converted into a Buick. Look at the current Buick's being sold vs. the Vibe. Buick has nice smooth, rounded lines while the Vibe is much more aggressive looking.The Vibe doesn't really have a place in any of the surviving GM brands. Obviously not GMC, I just wrote about Buick, and definitely not Cadillac. Chevy would be the best option, but I am afraid that it would not be a Vibe but a Cobalt wagon/5door. Similar size as the Cobalt. It saddens me to say this, but maybe it is time for the Vibe to be done. It fits well in the Pontiac name. IMO it doesn't fit with Buick or Cadillac and I wouldn't want to see it as a Chevy. It would look terrible. Look at the Chevy Aveo and the Pontiac G3. Now in your minds, think of the Vibe with a Chevy front end like the Aveo (sorry, I completely suck at photoshop or I would do it for you).

Re: (PopeyeFAFL)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:31 pm
by BadBrew
Quote, originally posted by PopeyeFAFL »You mean, like the Buick LaCrosse, LOLExactement celui-là That's the one I meant

Re: (lovemyraffe)

Posted: Thu Jun 11, 2009 11:51 pm
by jake75
Buick dealers are looking for an "entry vehicle". GM has signaled that they will get one . . . or two.Many car buyers are not that critical when it comes to the styling of the grill etc.. As long as a Buick Vibe is not Aztek ugly, the desired functional features and reliability would sustain it. That said, I think the odds are against any GM version of the Matrix surviving after the 2010 model year but perhaps even GM itself doesn't know the answer to that at the moment. It would certainly be a "shovel ready" addition to the Buick lineup. The key probably is whether it is the more profitable choice for GM. If the GM version went away, I suspect that a significant portion of the Vibe sales would migrate to the Matrix. That portion attracted to the Vibe because of GM Card rebates and other deals likely would go elsewhere. I bought my '03 at 5,059 under msrp and '09 at 7,563 under msrp - probably not very interested at $20,000.

Re: (PopeyeFAFL)

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 3:36 am
by Kincaid
Quote »Do you all prefer the Vibe to return as a Chevy or a Buick?I would prefer Chevy - their corporate "Malibu-style" grille would look much better IMO. I could even see it coming back as a GMC, the Acadia's little bro. Buick grilles look fine on those big ol' boats but not so much on the Vibe.As for whether it's time for the Vibe to go or not, I would think that GM, having just invested time and money on the redesign, would like to get at least two more model years out of it. The name should disappear, I agree, if and when it belongs to another marque.

Re: (lovemyraffe)

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 4:59 am
by ned23
Will we get the weird little side vents like on the Buick Hood? Also, why is this article only available in French and does it mean that the Vibe will continue past 2010 or not?

Re: (ned23)

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:13 am
by Sputnik
Quote, originally posted by ned23 »Will we get the weird little side vents like on the Buick Hood? Also, why is this article only available in French and does it mean that the Vibe will continue past 2010 or not? Its in French because its a Quebec news piece.

Re: (Sputnik)

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:20 am
by ned23
Quote, originally posted by Sputnik »Its in French because its a Quebec news piece.What I meant was, why hasn't a similar article released outside of Quebec? I cannot find any articles that say the Vibe will go beyond 2010.

Re: (ned23)

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 5:38 am
by jake75
Quote, originally posted by ned23 »What I meant was, why hasn't a similar article released outside of Quebec? I cannot find any articles that say the Vibe will go beyond 2010. Probably because there is no basis for the rumor that the Vibe will go beyond model year 2010. I personally think that the Canadian article was just commenting on the fact that the Vibe is the only 2010 Pontiac. There are some logical reasons why GM might do that - Buick needs to broaden its line at the lower end, GM has to do something with their NUMMI interest, GM just spent a lot of money on a redesign, etc. But when it comes to the American auto industry, what's logic got to do with it. Automobiles are like streetcars, there will be another one along in a few minutes. Maybe Penske will buy GM's Nummi interest, who knows!

Re: (ned23)

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:21 am
by lovemyraffe
Quote, originally posted by ned23 »Will we get the weird little side vents like on the Buick Hood? Those portholes are a classic Buick style.

Re: (jake75)

Posted: Mon Jun 15, 2009 6:21 am
by Kincaid
Quote »...when it comes to the American auto industry, what's logic got to do with it..word

Re: (lovemyraffe)

Posted: Tue Jun 23, 2009 10:38 pm
by ned23
Quote, originally posted by lovemyraffe »Those portholes are a classic Buick style.Well, I have to admit, I rode a Buick recently, and they've turned it into a really nice, really comfortable car. The reliability ratings and customer satisfaction for 2008 were high too. Another thought:They could make the vibe the first "GMC" car. They could call it the "GMC Vibe"