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Purchased a new gauge cluster!

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 3:47 am
by Wolfman213
I found one on ebay for 35 with shipping and decided to snag it up. I've spoke before about wanting to swap out the leds for a more blue theme. I know there are guys on ebay selling kits already, but I wanted to know exactly what I needed so I can give it more of a customized look as opposed to everything being blue. I will keep this thread updated with the progress including pics and possible a write up/how to later on.Am I correct in saying that as far as swapping the clusters out, I simply need to go to a GM dealership and have them reprogram it and that's it?

Re: Purchased a new gauge cluster! (Wolfman213)

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 4:36 am
by ColonelPanic
The cluster will work by simply plugging it in, but the problem is that the odometer reading is stored in the cluster itself. So your new cluster is going to read whatever mileage that it had on it when it was removed from the previous car. It isn't something that a dealer can reprogram.If your new cluster has more mileage on it than your original one, you're screwed. If the new one has less, check this thread out on how you could run up the mileage to match your original cluster. You could always use the new cluster as a guinea pig -- swap the LED's on that one first, if the outcome is favorable you can then tear into the original one.

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 5:50 am
by Wolfman213
Ahh I thought that they were able to be reprogrammed with the correct odometer readings. Oh well, like you said, at least it will be a good guinea pig and I can tinker with it as much as possible.

Re: (Wolfman213)

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 7:47 am
by joatmon
I'd say mess with the new one, then if you are able to get it to the state you want to use it for real, you can send it off to whatever place the GM shop would send it off to to get the odometer set. The GM shop near me would send stuff like that to a place called SPECMODealerships don't replace clusters often enough to justify having the equipment, training, and liability required to do it in house. also check out sektor's posts in http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=32956 I've been meaning to try that, just keep not getting around to it

Re: (joatmon)

Posted: Wed May 27, 2009 1:50 pm
by Sublimewind
Quote, originally posted by joatmon »I'd say mess with the new one, then if you are able to get it to the state you want to use it for real, you can send it off to whatever place the GM shop would send it off to to get the odometer set. The GM shop near me would send stuff like that to a place called SPECMODealerships don't replace clusters often enough to justify having the equipment, training, and liability required to do it in house. also check out sektor's posts in http://forums.genvibe.com/zerothread?id=32956 I've been meaning to try that, just keep not getting around to itOr simply use the new cluster to do your R&D and when you have what you want, do it to the original and toss the other, or sell it...

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 6:20 am
by Wolfman213
I received the "new" cluster today. As i'm trying to dismantle it, I'm having issues removing the needles for the gauges. Does anyone have any tips for removing them? I'm not really wanting to break them and I feel the I'm about to.

Re: (Wolfman213)

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:39 am
by joatmon
the shoudl just pull off. You nmight need to pry them off carefully. Take's more force than you feel like you should have to use.

Posted: Sat May 30, 2009 9:43 am
by Wolfman213
ok, thanks. I'll give it a shot then.

Posted: Sun May 31, 2009 11:32 pm
by Wolfman213
I've ran into another problem on taking apart the gauges. Does anyone know how to properly remove the LCD info board? It's connected with several thin metal wires. That's, I believe, the last piece of the puzzle holding me back from gaining access to all the leds.

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:12 pm
by Wolfman213
I've completed the led swap on my gauge cluster!! I have the one I purchased off of ebay tore down still, but I got to thinking if I mock up the 04 cluster, I'm then going to have to either buy more leds or remove then and the put them on mine. So i decided to pull mine saturday night and finished it yesterday. I will be posting pic in my garage probably tomorrow (if i can ever get a good picture!!) and will start on a write up today.

Re: (Wolfman213)

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:27 pm
by kevera
Are you installing the cluster in your Vibe??I was going to install an 05 cluster in my 04 and it didn't work.There was an extra plug on the 05+'s.Might want to make sure it works before you go too far with this one.

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 8:34 pm
by Wolfman213
Oh, no, not the 04. I did notice the extra plug when I took out mine, the 06. I initially bought the 04 so i could just do some test runs so determine a color scheme.

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Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:33 pm
by ColonelPanic
oh yeah, i forgot about that... they added several new indicators on the 05+ for vsc, tpms and the like... hence the extra wiring.

Posted: Sun Jun 21, 2009 9:59 pm
by Wolfman213
That's what I figured for the extra wiring, but I didn't know for sure when all the extra's were added. Also, not sure when they done this, but the leds on the 04 seemed to be lower quality than the 06. Certain ones seemed to separate, kinda like it was two separate pieces. Then the bottom part was a nightmare to remove. The 06, however, were able to be removed with little problems, of course the occasional stubborn one.

Posted: Mon Jun 22, 2009 10:43 am
by Wolfman213
I have completed the How To for this. Here is the thread!