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We will be replacing our 2000 Montana, likely this spring with probly one of the Lambda platforms, either an Outlook or Traverse. We have $2000 in GM Visa points and can get GM Employee Pricing through a family member. However in the back of our minds is GM's ability to support this purchase for its lifetime..say 10 years. At what point in GM's downsizing would it not be able to honor a car's warranty?

What isn't iffy these days. If everyone would buy Canadian and American made products we might not be where we are. There's never been a better time to buy a new vehicle and with your extra perks you'd be crazy not to if you can afford it. If I wasn't up to my adam's apple in debt, I'd buy a new GMC truck today and a Cadillac CTS V tomorrow.

Quote, originally posted by Raven »What isn't iffy these days. I think we would consider GM 'iffier' than many other businesses these days.Quote, originally posted by Raven »If everyone would buy Canadian and American made products we might not be where we are.I am going to get off topic but there are more and more goods today that are only produced off shore. Let me give you a simple example. Some time last year we needed to replace a simple kettle...one used to boil water on an element on the stove. I looked and looked but it was impossible to find such a beast that was made in N America or even Europe. Wait not quite. There was one from England that was over $80 .Quote, originally posted by Raven » There's never been a better time to buy a new vehicle and with your extra perks you'd be crazy not to if you can afford it.I am not sure if these 'extra perks' have any impact on an employee purchase.

GM will be around for a while. GM was into its restructuring when some idiots in the banking industry said it was O.K. to loan money to people for mortgages who couldn't afford them. all GM wants is credit to coninue its normal operations. they would like to be subsidized by the government like Toyota is. They would also like the tariffs raised on imports just like the foreign governments tariff the crap out of American vehicles going there.So go ahead and buy that GM vehicle. GM will be around.

I have faith that our government won't allow GM to fail... There's just too much at stake - outside of the company itself, you have countless suppliers that are still operating in the US, plus the companies that support the suppliers, even non-auto-related surrounding businesses, etc etc... An insane number of jobs to be lost, so I surely hope they would step in to help. While it seems to me that the current administration appears to not give a crap if they die or survive, I'm hoping things will change Jan 20. My sister just replaced her Venture with a new Enclave, that's a really nice vehicle... I say go for it and not worry about it. If I were in a position to trade right now (and could find a bank that loans money to people ) I wouldn't mind having another GM vehicle.

yeah I dont see the US gov letting ford or GM go down. Also ford and gm are now going to bring even more Euro spec cars over. I wouldnt worry about GM.

Yes you can use your GM Visa points with employee pricing. We've had GM employee pricing in our family for 30+ years. I'm not just talking about individual buying of domestic products. If large corps like Walmart weren't so dependent on China for cheap supply lines our manufacturing industry would not be going down the tubes. Anything to make a buck in the short term and #$%& the future.

Quote, originally posted by Raven »Yes you can use your GM Visa points with employee pricing. We've had GM employee pricing in our family for 30+ years.I did know this. Our last car (05 Vibe) was purchased with Employee pricing and GM Visa points.

Right now, GM and other US cars are the best value for the buck anywhere. I doubt that we will see this industry vanish, but because the were led by a bunch of nincompoops to the brink, it's not going to be an easy go for them. Just like the tea pot. We don't make much to sell to other countries, or even for us to buy here at home. Most of our dollars now go out to the nations where these products are made. This is not a sustainable situation for North America. We need to keep manufacturing and we need to make things that the world wants to buy. Our US and Canadian built cars should be the best in class across the board. There is no excuse for this. We should be exporting the best, highest quality and most fuel efficient vehicles on the planet, including hybrid, electric, diesel and whatever other propulsion systems are out there. Our car company heads have proved many times over that they have zero vision and not much touch with reality. At least GM did decide to build the Vibe, even if its really a Corolla/Matrix. I try to buy American products, but it's getting harder and harder to find them. Tell your wife that if we don't try to buy American, that we may end up not having enough jobs, to make an income, to buy anything, foreign or domestic. All car manufacturers are having a nasty time of it right now. No one is immune during this economic down turn.

Someone will buy GM if it gets REALLY REALLY REALLY bad. So even if the one in a million chance that GM cannot support itself somehow does happen, they will be bought and someone will carry it forward. Nothing to be too concerned with. Like everyone else said, they have great deals and great pricing, you should definitely take advantage while the getting is hot. They are great cars too. I hate people that think American cars are inferior to Japanese cars. Theoretically ANY car should last longer than a human being does if maintained properly because it's a machine. Of course you do get Lemons once in a while but that happens with any company. I'm shocked at how many piles of garbage come into my shop with like 50,000 miles that are just running like crap and looks disgusting! Even if, and it makes me sad to even think about it, you think of a car as MERELY transportation and nothing more...it's still an expensive investment. Why not take care of it!?!?!?Speaking of that, off topic, but a friend heads a dealership chain in Texas (Subaru or Nissan I forget) but that dealer chain, if you buy one of the new Outbacks they GIVE AWAY one of their smaller economy cars for $1 (ONE DOLLAR). Isn't that nuts??? That is a pretty appealing deal lol.GM needs to eliminate all the idiots designing cars, their options and all of that stuff, and start hiring more creative kids. They need to stop worrying about what the applicants transcripts look like and focus more on their personal creativity and common sense!!! I know a few friends that have fantastic ideas and are extremely creative that I think if they were in the company could help turn it around but of course because they don't have official experience and 400 college degrees they wouldn't have a chance at getting into the positions they would need to be in to help turn the company around. It's kinda like the presidential elections. There are no more good candidates running because the would-be great candidates are either not qualified enough, don't have enough money to run, or are just discouraged from running. Same thing. Sorry to rant and stray off topic but you just reminded me of a few things I wanted to share

I have faith that GM will hang in there. If something were to happen, it would be devastating to my family. My dad has worked at the Tech Center for 20 something years. We just try to keep our hopes up. My dad says everyone is walking around like zombies at work right now. I just hope everything works its self out soon.

First, GM is not going to go out of business. Absolute worst case is they'll restructure. They've got an enourmous commercial truck division, for one thing. Second, if for some reason GM did dissapear, you can take your vibe to a Toyota dealer for repairs (if it needs any) , because it's just like a Matrix. I drove my last vibe for 60,000 and it didn't need anything.