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getting rid of groundhog (residential area)
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:36 am
by PopeyeFAFL
Does anyone know how to get rid of a groundhog which is drilling hole in my back yard (maybe also hiding under the yard shed).Since this is residential area, please don't give me the typical: "shot the *******" response.Also a trap will probably kill all the neighbor's cats before the groundhog.Thanks in advance.
Re: getting rid of groundhog (PopeyeFAFL)
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 9:03 am
by keithvibe
get a large double door... I use the same one to catch rabbits and squerls around my house.
http://www.havahart.com/store/.../1050You can find them cheaper than from the manufactor though. don't pay 80bucks... i think i got mine for 40... It don't kill the animal... it's a live trap. so if you do catch the cat... you could set it free ORRRRRRRRR take it for a road trip and set it free HAHAHA
Re: getting rid of groundhog (keithvibe)
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 10:29 am
by Raven
Bait the trap with a large poutine.
Re: getting rid of groundhog (PopeyeFAFL)
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 11:22 am
by Herb
If killing is what you want to do, check out the Rodenator Prohttp://
www.youtube.com/watch?v=2umEFHeo6mwhttp ... rodenator/
Re: getting rid of groundhog (Herb)
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:04 pm
by joholste
is that thing for real?? I think it looks cool
Re: getting rid of groundhog (joholste)
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:49 pm
by 808 Vibes
My dogs said they'd be on the next flight over. "The only good vermint is...dead vermint"-Carl the Groundskeeper
Re: getting rid of groundhog (joholste)
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 12:54 pm
by Herb
Quote, originally posted by joholste »is that thing for real?? I think it looks coolYeah, it's real, looks like alot of fun to use, but it's expensive
Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 8:54 pm
by Renthorin
I have a problem with ground squirrels digging holes where I train my dogs. Can't have a dog stepping in while running and snapping a leg....so...I shoot them when I see them with subsonic rounds. Yes, you can't do this so here is the other thing I do:There is a product that you light and drop into the hole. It fills the tunnels and burrow with gas and they die.
http://www.biconet.com/critter....htmlThere are several different brands on the market. Just don't use them under your house as the stink might seep inside.
Re: getting rid of groundhog (Raven)
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 5:54 am
by Sputnik
Quote, originally posted by Raven »Bait the trap with a large poutine. LOL... but I doubt you'd get groundhogs - you'd end up with hungry people eating that! Speaking of which, I haven't had a poutine in a looong time... I could go for one right about now.
Re: getting rid of groundhog (Raven)
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 6:57 am
by PopeyeFAFL
Quote, originally posted by Raven »Bait the trap with a large poutine. I want to catch it, not KILL it, LOLJe veux l'attrapé, pas lui faire subir une mort atroce, LOL
Re: getting rid of groundhog (PopeyeFAFL)
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 7:09 am
by ToolGuy
Yes I agree with you, catch and release!!!! They are just doing or being hogs, no reason to put lead in it. I caught two at my house before using a trap similar to the one above. My neighbor also has two cats and both did not get caught. Although catching one of those would be nice since I HATE people with out door cats! Cats belong inside and once they are out, they become everyone else's cat! Very rude! Our cats stays indoors...Anyway, back to the trap. I caught the first one within minutes of putting it out. The trap paid for itself but I think my city does not want people doing their own trapping. I am not sure if my city catches and releases but I took the chance and drove the little guys to a well wooded area and released both.
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:11 am
by zionzr2
I remember seeing a while back tha t out in Easter Colorado this guy had a converted Sewer Vaccum truck to safelly and humanely suck the praire-dogs right out of the ground and into the containment bin to be hauled of to somplace else.
Re: getting rid of groundhog (ToolGuy)
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:17 am
by PopeyeFAFL
To ToolguyThanks for the info.Once caught, do they make a big mess in the cage ("Pee" Scent, etc.) during the short trip to the wooded area, any precaution to take (cover the cage with a blanket?, drive with window open?). What do you used for bait?I also have an indoor only cat, but I sometime give food to one of my neighbor cat and I see always the same 4 or 5 cats around.I will see if my city, take care of this, otherwise a cage might be useful (might be used, more than once anyway).Some sites that I visited mentioned to avoid putting your scent to the cage by wearing latex glove and even suggest to have the cage in an unlock position for a day or two and then activate the mechanism (I don't really see the point, once it is caught, it is caught).
Re: getting rid of groundhog (ToolGuy)
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 9:51 am
by PopeyeFAFL
Quote, originally posted by ToolGuy »Yes I agree with you, catch and release!!!! They are just doing or being hogs, no reason to put led in it.Actually, putting "LED" in it, could be useful, I will see it in the dark, LOLOk, ok, I should not quit my day job to became a stand-up comic, I got it.
Re: getting rid of groundhog (PopeyeFAFL)
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 10:31 am
by Herb
Quote, originally posted by PopeyeFAFL »To ToolguySome sites that I visited mentioned to avoid putting your scent to the cage by wearing latex glove and even suggest to have the cage in an unlock position for a day or two and then activate the mechanism (I don't really see the point, once it is caught, it is caught).This proceedure is known as 'prebaiting'Sometimes when an established animal is in your area, it may become suspicious of anything new. If it finds it can get a free meal it will return. So the idea in this instance is to place your bait near the trap to see if it will go for it. Then put the bait in the trap and bang you got it.You might want to check with local authorities regarding re-locating the animal. You might be introducing it to an area that never had them and cause a new problem altogether.The trap above is large enough to catch a raccoon, just to give you a perspective. You can get smaller ones that only have an opening on one end and should be fine for squirrels, ground hogs etc. If you get one that's too big, they might be able to get between the wires and escape.
Re: getting rid of groundhog (Herb)
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 3:12 pm
by PopeyeFAFL
Quote, originally posted by Herb »This proceedure is known as 'prebaiting'Sometimes when an established animal is in your area, it may become suspicious of anything new. If it finds it can get a free meal it will return. So the idea in this instance is to place your bait near the trap to see if it will go for it. Then put the bait in the trap and bang you got it.You might want to check with local authorities regarding re-locating the animal. You might be introducing it to an area that never had them and cause a new problem altogether.Ok, I got it now, slowly attract it within the cage.In my case, I will release it in an area, where I saw plenty while doing cycling (noticed it more, near road boarder).Someone mentioned (in another forum, not here), that groundhog will urinate a lot (distance spray?, scent? in a wire cage), I don't know if it is true and what kind of precaution should I take for not ruining my Vibe baggage compartment, even for a short 15 - 20 minutes ride.
Re: getting rid of groundhog (ToolGuy)
Posted: Sun Jul 20, 2008 11:59 pm
by sloth
It's a rodent, get rid of it so it's not bothering anybody else. Residential area, I'd get/borrow a nice air rifle to get rid of it.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:07 am
by KNINE
My German Shepherd has taken care of two groundhogs on my property. You know how well the Germans and French get along.Doesn't your city have animal control? They should be able to put out a live trap for nothing.
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:10 am
by Sublimewind
A nice pelet gun works great in residential areas, much like Renthorin mentioned.. But he's prolly using ,22 shorts..lol..
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:22 am
by lovemyraffe
I wish I could help you with that. Here the groundhogs are a "protected" species. It is illegal to kill them or trap them. They have overtaken the local golf course.
Re: (lovemyraffe)
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 12:51 am
by Mavrik
I used to flood them out and stand behind the hole with a 2x4...
Re: (lovemyraffe)
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 1:59 am
by sloth
Quote, originally posted by lovemyraffe »I wish I could help you with that. Here the groundhogs are a "protected" species. It is illegal to kill them or trap them. They have overtaken the local golf course.This probably won't go over well, but here the ranchers use the triple S rule. Shoot, Shovel, and Shut Up.
Re: getting rid of groundhog (PopeyeFAFL)
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 4:01 am
by ToolGuy
I am the worst speller! Yes an LED would be great to catch it at night!For the hogs, both of mine were very tame and neither get angry or deficated in the car. In fact the one did not want to leave when I opened the cage. When I caught them I put them in the back of the Vibe with a tarp under and over the cage. I literally had to drive them 1/4 mile so the ride did not take long at all.I baited the cage with vegetables since that is what they eat. Cats should not mess with that type of food, but if they do just release the cat of course.For all that are talking about shooting it, in my neighborhood you cannot discharge a firearm so that is not an option. The hogs live outside, we do not but we are talking over all the land and room is running out for them to live off of. I do not know my cities policy if they catch and release but I did not want to see them get destroyed so I took care of it myself... Not sure if the city charges either.
Re: (K-NINE)
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 8:43 am
by PopeyeFAFL
Quote, originally posted by K-NINE »My German Shepherd has taken care of two groundhogs on my property. You know how well the Germans and French get along.Doesn't your city have animal control? They should be able to put out a live trap for nothing.Not sure I understand what the French has to do in your German Shepherd joke?Now, I'm told by other living near my place (but not the same small city) that city hall let you borrow a cage and take it back after you catch it (I have to see if ti is true, it will be easier, I will also ask what to they do with the animal? (kill or release it elsewhere).
Re: getting rid of groundhog (PopeyeFAFL)
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:14 am
by keithvibe
i could always rent you my two dogs... their count right now this summer is 1 bunny and 4 birds... lol would have been 2bunnys but my one dog scared it away while my other one was in stalk mode lol
Re: (Mavrik)
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:18 am
by 02csnow
Quote, originally posted by Mavrik »I used to flood them out and stand behind the hole with a 2x4...Ahahahahahahaha I could just picture that in my head.
Re: (02csnow)
Posted: Mon Jul 21, 2008 9:36 am
by KNINE
It's a good thing PETA doesn't monitor this page.
Re: (Sublimewind)
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:27 am
by Renthorin
22 long actually ;-)I would use .357 mag but it echoes too much.
Re: (Renthorin)
Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 3:41 am
by Sublimewind
Quote, originally posted by Renthorin »22 long actually ;-)I would use .357 mag but it echoes too much.I knew it was one or the other...lol... yeah, the 357 makes an awefull mess to... Ever had your hands on a .17 HMR varment rifle? My dad has one and WOW is all I can say... My older brother sunk 2 muskrats at 150-200yd WHILE SWIMMING...lol.. We were just messin with it, shooting a chunk of pressure treated 4x4.. a 22LR makes it in about 1.5", while the 17 blazes right through it...
Re: getting rid of groundhog (PopeyeFAFL)
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 2:10 am
by ToolGuy
Speak of the devil, I got two of them at my house now! Two little guys started to come two weeks ago!Going to set my trap now, will take pic when I catch the first one, stay tuned!
Re: getting rid of groundhog (ToolGuy)
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 3:07 am
by ToolGuy
Here is the first hog, one more to go! Got to release this little guy first though.
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Re: getting rid of groundhog (ToolGuy)
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:09 am
by 808 Vibes
Awwwwww....he's getting meals while in confinement LOL
Re: getting rid of groundhog (HawaiiPontiacLover)
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 4:17 am
by ToolGuy
He actually stopped eating once the door closed! LOL!!! And then it was either cute or sad, however you want to look at it but the second hog was right next to the cage looking at the trapped one. Almost as if "hey buddy I would help you if I could".The first one also pooped in the Vibe but I had a tarp down under the cage as I always do so that trapped the poop! Scared the poop right out of him! When I got back from releasing the first my wife pulls up and we see the second hog peek at us from on top our garage roof and then scurry to the other side and down the deck fencing! I was like that is the first time I have seen one climb that high.The trap is baited right now for the second but something tells me this one may take more time to catch as he has approached the trap carefully two times already.
Re: getting rid of groundhog (ToolGuy)
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 7:37 am
by 808 Vibes
Quote, originally posted by ToolGuy »When I got back from releasing the first my wife pulls up and we see the second hog peek at us from on top our garage roof and then scurry to the other side and down the deck fencing! I was like that is the first time I have seen one climb that high.You know what that was, don't you? They had a party in your house while you were out. The guy on the roof was Da Lookout. Squeak once if the Vibe comes back, Squeak twice if it's the cops.
Re: getting rid of groundhog (HawaiiPontiacLover)
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:45 pm
by bull77
Quote, originally posted by HawaiiPontiacLover »You know what that was, don't you? They had a party in your house while you were out. The guy on the roof was Da Lookout. Squeak once if the Vibe comes back, Squeak twice if it's the cops. lol --- I didn't think they were so agile
Re: getting rid of groundhog (HawaiiPontiacLover)
Posted: Sun Aug 10, 2008 9:53 pm
by ToolGuy
Well apparently these two hogs were quite the hell raisers! Both were climbing the wooden lattice work on my deck to get to the hanging baskets to eat the flowers! Crazy kids!When I saw them do that I said time to get the traps out!Plus both of them came to the screen door and one pawed at the screen because they could smell the bags of peanuts my wife uses to hand feed the squirrels.Never did catch the other hog yesterday but a squirrel got in and the trap closed of course! He was only in there seconds as I heard it close and ran out to let him out. Scared the poop out of him too!
Re: getting rid of groundhog (ToolGuy)
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 6:26 am
by Renthorin
My wife told me the other day...."well...we HAD a ground hog in the back looking like he wanted to move in under the deck..."It seems our groundhog deterrent got him before he finished digging.....
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Re: getting rid of groundhog (Renthorin)
Posted: Mon Aug 11, 2008 9:16 pm
by ToolGuy
Yep that would do it alright!In my case I caught the other hog last night and released him at the same spot as the first hog. That makes 5 hogs in the 6 years I have lived in my home! So, until the next...
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 6:36 am
by ToolGuy
So I get home from work today and my wife happened to me home before me. She says guess what I saw today? I said what? Two Groundhogs run across our deck right before you got home! I said what? How could it be? She said yeah and they made a noise as they ran by almost as they were laughing at me! So looks like the trap goes back out and I doubt it was two different as I peeked out our bedroom window and saw one, looked just like to two I trapped. Same size.
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:01 am
by Renthorin
when you catch them use a can of spray paint and run a line down their back or something. That way you will know for certain next time you see one.Plus, the other hogs will make so much fun of the striped ones they will run away to avoid the shame.
Re: (Renthorin)
Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:56 pm
by ToolGuy
Yeah that is not a bad idea! Well I caught the one that was still around last night. This time when I let him go I took him over the river and through the woods kind of thing to release him. I saw a Heron in a stream too and thought who would not like to live here, all these woods, plants, a stream, no cars or people... Hope he does not come back as these little guys have some kind of awesome GPS Navigation system. My wife jokingly said should we make a few extra turns to throw him off before we let him go?
Re: (ToolGuy)
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 1:43 am
by michaelgt
Did you dump them near me? One has dug out the sand next to my house in two different places. Made a huge mess in the flower beds. I flooded the holes, but nothing came out. I set out my live trap, and whatever triggered the trap was able to get out (I think the trap is too small for groundhog, and probably did not drop far enough to catch on the latch to keep it from being pushed up.)So. I may need to resort to another method.
Re: (michaelgt)
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 6:40 am
by ToolGuy
They are everywhere!
Re: (ToolGuy)
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 9:23 pm
by michaelgt
I was trying to get my daughter to stay out late with her bow and arrow and pay a bounty. I figure they would be good practice for the state shoot this weekend. However, she said that it would have to have a target on it for her to shoot at. Therefore, if you get anymore in your cage, could you paint a target on them?Thanks
Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:16 pm
by Sublimewind
Just a FYI, live trapping a skunk is BAD BAD news.... trust me on this one...
Re: (Sublimewind)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 12:31 am
by ToolGuy
Yeah I cannot imagine a skunk or a Raccoon my my trap. If not the stink, the (removed) would be so crazy I am sure. Than again my wife was at the local feed store, asked the guys about the hogs and one said we just caught a raccoon in the building here. Being an animal lover she asked to see it, so they take her out to a pickup truck and the Raccoon was just sleeping in the trap! The guy was going to release it on his way home but I though that thing would have been a spaz in the cage!
Re: (ToolGuy)
Posted: Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:31 am
by redlava
20 gallons of diesel fuel and a match should do the trick. If you were in the country I would suggest finding a friendly farmer with a few pounds of anhydrous ammonia to spray down a few of his holes.