New tire purchase?

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Vibe_dude
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New tire purchase?

Post by Vibe_dude »

What would be the best tire for a long wear? I am getting rid of my Falkan's and want something that will last a few years,but alson want something that is not to pricy either.These will be the stock 205/55/16's.Any ideas? thx's
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Re: New tire purchase? (Vibe_dude)

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BFGoodrich Traction T/A.... I have them on my wifes car and totally changed how the car road and handled and they have a good treadweartreadlife60,000 Miles (H & V rated tires only)70,000 Miles (T-rated tires only)89-91bucks on tirerackI plan on getting the same tire when my stockers are dueORGoodyear Assurance TripleTred115.00 tireracktreadlife 80,000
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Re: New tire purchase? (Vibe_dude)

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If you are driving down to Maine anytime in the near future, buy your tires from http://www.discounttiredirect.com/direct/home.do or from http://www.tirerack.com/ and have them shipped to the nearest The UPS Store. You'll save a few hundred bucks on the tires and a pile on the shipping and brokerage fees compared to buying in Canada or shipping to Canada. Here's a locator for The UPS Store: http://www.ups.com/dropoff/director/108085Yokahama Avid TRZ is highly recommended http://www.discounttiredirect....ar=55 I assume living in NB that you have real snow tires for the winter.
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Re: New tire purchase? (Raven)

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Keithvibe, I gave the GY TripleTreds a shot, 6 tires worth, and I could not keep them from flat-spotting by 10 to 15k miles. Rotated every 6k miles and rebalanced first set when they started to sound off. Two were damaged by bolts, so I had to replace them. I had the shop pre balance the new ones without weights by rotating the tire on wheel to find the smallest weights for final balance. By 10k miles, these started to flat-spot. Specs are: 16 inch Motegi MR7 wheels and 205/55 Assurance TripleTreds on a Prius. I haven't done the research to see if Prius tends to do this to all tires. The Triple Treds are very good in the rain and ok in snow. Were quiet at first, but develop a pretty good rumble by 7 or 8k. A spendy tire for sure, but it hasn't worked out very well. Will replace with something else this Spring.
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Is long wear a must?? The reason I ask is because on the "high" mileage tires, the tread compound is much harder... If you happen to run summer/winter tires, you know how much softer a winter tire is... From an overall performance standpoint, mainly braking, a softer performance tire is a much better choice... As much as I hate buying tires, I'll never buy A/S tires again, I will always run a summer/winter combo, as A/S tires are a "compromise" between good handling performance and tread life, doing NEITHER very well IMHO... To offset the cost of "decent" summer performance tires, you can consider your insurance deductible(if you have them there) mine is 500$, which is more than what I would pay for a decent set of summer performance tires and if i could avoid 1 accident using the added benefits of performance tires vs braking, they payed for themselves.... These are the same points I make for dedicated snow tires... Is the cost if a set of tires every 2-3 years worth your time/money/possible downtime? To me, it's not, so when it's time for tires on the Vibe, it's getting a set of Kumho SPT summers and I have been running Winterforce winter tires... A counterpoint to what Raven linked you to, would be these Kumho SPT's I mentioned.. http://www.discounttiredirect....ar=55320 treadwear vs the 700 of the other tire, but they ARE cheaper and WILL perform better..
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Re: New tire purchase? (Vibe_dude)

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Try and check out the Bridgestone Potenza G-009

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Post by Vibe_dude »

Has anyone here tryied these before?http://www.michelinman.ca/over....htmli can get them for around $700 out the door at costco.was wondering how they worked for ride and noise.....they have a 100,000 kms warranty.
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Post by Raven »

They're a nice tire but $$$ouch. If you don't have winter tires, you'd be much better off with the Michelin HydroEdge or Goodyear TripleTred. They should be about the same price in Canada.
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I guess we don't read the replies from other members.. Oh well...You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make them drink...
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Ok I need 3 season tires...do not need winter tires....i want long life...this is not a sports car so i dont need to have 1 g turns...as far as $700 being to much.....thats install,lifetime balance and rotaion and taxes.also nitrogen as well.so the actual tires are about $150 apeice..for a very good brand name tire.was just wondering if anyone has had any luck with these tires.
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Post by Ol' Timer »

I can't speak about the tires, although they sound like a decent tire for your driving habits. I personally do well with buying tires from Costco. I'm not sure if the shot of nitrogen in my tires is helpful, but I like getting my tires rotated (actually swapped with my snow tires on rims) twice a year as well as balanced. Also, Costco does a great job repairing my tires when they attract a sharp object. Both services at no extra cost. Good Deal.
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quote:as far as $700 being to much.....thats install,lifetime balance and rotaion and taxes.also nitrogen as well.so the actual tires are about $150 apeice..for a very good brand name tire.;If that's the case, go for it.
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Post by darcmater »

umm isn't nitrogen 78% of the volume in air, which most places just use a pump that pulls from the air to inflate tires, so you are paying for 22% more nitrogen?
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Quote, originally posted by Vibe_dude »Ok I need 3 season tires...do not need winter tires....i want long life...this is not a sports car so i dont need to have 1 g turns...as far as $700 being to much.....thats install,lifetime balance and rotaion and taxes.also nitrogen as well.so the actual tires are about $150 apeice..for a very good brand name tire.was just wondering if anyone has had any luck with these tires.Understood, you don't "need" high performance tire.... But to what end? most ANY A/S tire is walking the line between "decent" dry pavement performance and "less-than-decent" rain performance... When I say performance I'm not talking about 1G turns either... Overall braking performance comes from what..... ding ding ding, your TIRES... a long life tread compound is HARD, it's the only way to increase mileage... it's the hard compound that'll get you into trouble in a "panic" situation... The same goes for when temps drop below 40*f... they get even HARDER, which means even less traction... again, not for 1G turns.. This is WHY I go on these long tangents... I'm trying to help people realize that although you might not think you need "performance" tires, consider what you have between you and the road, tires... it's your only link between that gas/brake pedal and steering wheel... Wouldn't you want to know that you have something there that isn't a "compromise" between this and that? you might not think you need winter tires, until you drive on a set and realize the large increase in performance in "cold" weather... again, not 1G cornering or stops, just in general... This is the ONLY reason I recommended a tire with HIGHER performance characteristic, but for MUCH cheaper than the A/S tire you linked to... The loss of mileage gets offset in the overall cost AND you benefit by having a tire that WILL increase your overall performance in many different areas.. On top of that if you were to consider a "winter" tire on a set of steel wheels, then you offset your cost and mileage by using the winter set for part of the year as well.. Personally, getting my value by increasing my overall performance AND peace of mind when it comes to "panic" maneuvers it WELL worth the time it takes to change out a set of tires in the fall/spring... I place a higher value on the things INSIDE the car... mainly ME... Sorry, i'm not trying to "RANT" i'm just trying to drive the point home...
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Lol...I get what ur saying.But i all ready have a very good set of winter ice tires.....What i need now is a set of really long wearing 3 season tires.(spring/summer/fall).I need long life from them beacause i can not afford $700 a pop for tires every 2 years.I had a very good performance tire on in my Falkans but did not even get 20,000kms out of them.way to soft of a tire.and they were over 700$ for those puppies.I want a tire that i can get about 4 summers out of with good rotation and balancing.The Goodyears on my Honda accord are giving me that for that car but do not come in a h rated size for the vibe or i would get the same tire.Oh well may have to just get them and try em pit.lol
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Quote, originally posted by Vibe_dude »Lol...I get what ur saying.But i all ready have a very good set of winter ice tires.....What i need now is a set of really long wearing 3 season tires.(spring/summer/fall).I need long life from them beacause i can not afford $700 a pop for tires every 2 years.I had a very good performance tire on in my Falkans but did not even get 20,000kms out of them.way to soft of a tire.and they were over 700$ for those puppies.I want a tire that i can get about 4 summers out of with good rotation and balancing.The Goodyears on my Honda accord are giving me that for that car but do not come in a h rated size for the vibe or i would get the same tire.Oh well may have to just get them and try em pit.lol I'm sorry, I forget you are in New Brunswick, which, has got to make prices more expensive... Have you tried looking into international shipping from either Tire Rack or Discount Tire Direct? I mean looking at them Kumho SPT's I linked you to, from Discount tire (free shipping, "here") I can get them for under 400$...!!! I would guess they would charge shipping and with exchange rates (What money do you use BTW??) I am glad you aren't taking offence to my posts, I tend to not "suger coat" things, and it gets me in trouble sometimes..
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Hey scoot.... nice tires, but looks like your rims missed the road a few times.....
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Ouch! Ow! Ding! Scrape! Scoot, get some of those little spring curb feeler thingies for your car, man! Woof!for 'Vibr8tr': Did see and add for new Bridgestone Potenza G019 Grid. A new directional tread pattern, with what I think was a 50,000 mile tread wear figure. Don't know how much they will cost.I've tried a lot of different brands, and I keep coming back to Bridgestone. For the money, they grip well, are fairly quiet and most important to me on a long lived tire... they stay round with minimal adjustments. On another recent post I mentioned trying out a set of Goodyear TripleTreads on my wife's Prius. Wish I hadn't. Kumho's are pretty nice, as are some Yokahamas and now that Bridgestone owns Firestone, they are probably ok, too. Michelin has a good lineup, but they tend to be very $$$ intense. Falkens seem to have a good rep. General (owned by Continental now) offers the Exclaim UHP and they could be a good tire, too. Sometimes deciding what tire to get is pretty chancy. I do the same thing you do. I have dedicated snow tires on a set of rims for winter, and as soon as I can, I switch to my summers. There are a lot of good warm season tires that handle rain really well. Like Sublimewind breezes about, real snow tires are far superior for winter duty. A/S tires are a poor compromise by comparison.On a Vibe, I don't know if a longer life (harder compound) vs a softer higher performance summer tire would be all that significant. That would probably depend on how you drive the car. The car I replaced with my new Vibe was a 1999 Saturn SLW (wagon). Took a really slippy set of Tiger Paws off and put on a set of Bridgestone Turanzas that had a tread wear # of 700 and they were fine for summer. Got 7 plus years out of them (minus the winter periods). They are still going strong. There are way too many tire choices out there.
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Quote, originally posted by keithvibe » BFGoodrich Traction T/A.... I have them on my wifes car and totally changed how the car road and handled and they have a good treadweartreadlife60,000 Miles (H & V rated tires only)70,000 Miles (T-rated tires only)89-91bucks on tirerackmy rsa's are finally wearing out and i'm looking to get a decent set of all seasons. i would prefer to have a summer set and a winter set, but i don't have the money for another set of rims and 2 sets of tires. are these a good tire? my main thing is i want high quality(should last at least 2 years) and as cheap as possible. i don't really have $400 i can toss around on crappy tires i won't like. thanks.
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Post by gp20mushii »

best i could find for what i wanted...heard nothin but good about nitto neo gens. $607 out the door with free balance/rotate for life...
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I know!!! My wife can't seem to grasp the concept of not hitting or running things over. The most recent was scraping the front fascia on some flagstone which pulled the bumper slightly... off.... as well as pulling the liner on the fire wall off....yeah, I was quite peeved to say the least.
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