the new K.I.T.T

[b train]

http://jalopnik.com/photogalle...59065

[ajflan]

I will not be watching this show.

[ramenboy...]

+1.that's freakin sacreligious! a mustang?!?!?!?! i'm gonna watch the green hornet.

[wyatt89]

haha, thats pretty geih!

[northvibe]

heck yes a stang..or so its rumored. um awesome!

[ProtonXX]

infidels!

[BlueCrush]

Nice way to ruin the Mustang and the show

[northvibe]

well, i heart mustangs, but yeah...using a stang inplace of a transam...kinda odd unless theres some story to the mr knight getting a new car or something. otherwise i wonder who will do the car voice.

[TJinPgh]

I'm not sure if this is a remake, a re-imagining, or a sequal.given that Michael Knight wasn't the lead character's real name, they could do some sort of updated story line where somebody new assumes the name.Incidentally, this isn't the first time that the car has been a Mustang. They used a 69 Stang in Knight Rider 2010.

[ColonelPanic]

Ugh, I gotta go wash the barf outta my mullet! Blashphemy. But it's kinda pontiac's fault anyway, if they had a trans am none of this would have happened. Slim pickens for the mullet headed crowd these days, they used to have transcamarofirestangs, now they just have stangs. lol!

[Kamikaze]

OHHHHHH NOOOOOOOOOHHHHH GAAAAWWWWWDUm,,, Hey butthead, let's go kick the tv producers assuh huh huh huh mmmmmmmmhuh

[Whelan]

I may watch it to see what it's like. But I am 100% against this Ford crap. The original was a Trans Am, they could have produced a mock up of what they think the new ones are gonna look like and called it a day. Not to mention it has stripes. KITT does not have stripes, KITT is black with black wheels. Hell he started thew whole black wheels trend!Original Knight Industries Two Thousand FTMFW!!!

[NUBlackshirts]

As a fan of the original show, and long time Pontiac owner, they have already lost a viewer. What blasphemy is next? A "Smokey and the Bandit" remake with Bandit driving a Civic?

[ColonelPanic]

Yeah, and instead of the bird on the hood they can put hello kitty or maybe some other anime character thing.

[northvibe]

Quote, originally posted by Whelan »I may watch it to see what it's like. But I am 100% against this Ford crap. The original was a Trans Am, they could have produced a mock up of what they think the new ones are gonna look like and called it a day. Not to mention it has stripes. KITT does not have stripes, KITT is black with black wheels. Hell he started thew whole black wheels trend!Original Knight Industries Two Thousand FTMFW!!!holy wheel gap mcknight

[ColonelPanic]

Back then, 15" wheels were about as big as they came... and besides, you couldn't really lower kitt since that would have adverse impacts on the ski and super pursuit modes or whatever.

[kmvibe]

BOO!!!

[northvibe]

Quote, originally posted by ColonelPanic »Back then, 15" wheels were about as big as they came... and besides, you couldn't really lower kitt since that would have adverse impacts on the ski and super pursuit modes or whatever. yup all those muscle cars had giant wheel gap...funny how things change....

[TJinPgh]

Quote, originally posted by Whelan »The original was a Trans Am, they could have produced a mock up of what they think the new ones are gonna look like and called it a day.They could, but there is a bit of a problem with that. Last I heard, there are no plans to revive the Firebird line. The GTO will be Pontiac's entry into the rear drive platform.The whole point to KITT was that the car was meant to be unassuming. Something that, save for a snazzy light bar up front, could look like any other Trans Am on the street.When they did the TV movie of Knight Rider 2000, they chose a Pontiac Banshee concept car to fit the bill because it was widely believed at the time that the Banshee was going to be produced.Now, you COULD argue that they could use a GTO instead. True, but at that point all you are keeping is the Pontiac heritage. It still wouldn't be a Trans Am.It may be worth pointing out that, with the exception of Knight Rider 2000 the follow up series and movie based on this show (Team Knight Rider and Knight Rider 2010) ALL featured Ford vehicles. In fact, of all of the vehicles used by Knight Industries as "supercars," only two of them have been Pontiacs (three if you count KITT's evil twin). There have been four Fords (2 mustangs, a SUV and a truck) and two motorcycles. So, if using a Mustang is blasphemy, it was committed about 10 years ago, not now.For what it's worth, as late as last week David Hasselhoff was still in negotiations to reprise his role as Michael Knight. So, at least on paper, this will not be a remake or a reimagined version, but rather a next chapter in the story.It wouldn't surprise me all that much to see Michael Knight take over as the head of the Knight Foundation and simply get a new driver and a new car. Michael Long (Michael Knight's real name) wasn't the original choice for the driver of KITT, so it would be somewhat in keeping with the idea of the show to have him pass it along to somebody new.

[Mavrik]

why is it a ford?! It should have been the new camero!

[AZViking]

I swear I saw an ad last night for a new season of "American Gladiators"... So what's next, "The Highwayman" coming back too?

[TJinPgh]

You probably did. NBC is supposed to be using it as a mid-season replacement for Sunday Night Football.Eh. I prefer Ninja Warrior, myself.

[keithvibe]

BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HISSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSBOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoo

[tribalman]

Quote, originally posted by NUBlackshirts »As a fan of the original show, and long time Pontiac owner, they have already lost a viewer. What blasphemy is next? A "Smokey and the Bandit" remake with Bandit driving a Civic? i don't like that they replaced a freaking awesome trans am with a crappy mustang, but i'm going to give it a shot. i saw(and still do see) a lot of people bashing the new battlestar galactica. so what if starbuck is a female right now? the new show rocks so hard! i'm gonna check it out, but i'm sure it'll be garbage like the new flash gordon.and american gladiator, SSSSHHHHHHAAAAAAAWWWWWWEEEEETTTTTTT!! "they got names like blade and blazor!"-dodgeballand TJinPgh "For what it's worth, as late as last week David Hasselhoff was still in negotiations to reprise his role as Michael Knight. So, at least on paper, this will not be a remake or a reimagined version, but rather a next chapter in the story."i remember another thread where they said it wasn't going to be The Hoff as michael knight but some grandkid or son or such.

[SuperSpeedWagon]

I really dont like the mustang they seem to use it for everything, and then to top it off i already dislike ford makes me hate it even more

[TJinPgh]

Quote, originally posted by tribalman »i don't like that they replaced a freaking awesome trans am with a crappy mustang, but i'm going to give it a shot. i saw(and still do see) a lot of people bashing the new battlestar galactica. so what if starbuck is a female right now? the new show rocks so hard! i'm gonna check it out, but i'm sure it'll be garbage like the new flash gordon.I doubt most people argue that the new Battlestar Galactica is a better written show than the original. What upsets people is the way they UNNECESSARILY changed the characters to do it. The same is true with the new Bionic Woman. While personally I'm not sure that the new one is any better than the original (I happen to have liked that show, thank you), they could have very easily done this show and NOT named the lead character Jaime Sommers. I mean, her character and Lindsay Wagner's have NOTHING in common other than being bionic and using it on missions. They could have just as easily named the lead character of the new one something else and avoided comparisons between the shows and characters. They didn't. Which indicates that they clearly didn't give a rat's behind whether fans of the original show liked it or not.In the case of Knight Rider, it will likely be a whole new generation of people as the stars of the show if it actually makes it to series format (which is doubtful). So, it's not really the same thing.Quote »i remember another thread where they said it wasn't going to be The Hoff as michael knight but some grandkid or son or such.Well, depends on which article you read.According to two different Hollywood Reporter articles...Dated November 20.David Hasselhoff is in talks to appear on NBC's "Knight Rider," reprising his role as Michael Knight from the original series.Additionally, "The Young & the Restless" co-star Deanna Russo has landed the female lead in the movie/backdoor pilot opposite fellow soap star Justin Bruening."Rider," from UMS and Dutch Oven Prods., is a sequel to the 1980s series that centers on Mike Tracer (Bruening), Michael Knight's son who never knew his dad.Burned by his love for childhood best friend and one-time girlfriend Sarah Kamen (Russo), Mike is wasting away in Las Vegas when Sarah reappears and is willing to pay off Mike's gambling debt in exchange for help.Sarah is the brilliant estranged daughter of KITT inventor Charles Kamen, who works as an assistant professor in the engineering department at Stanford. When she receives word from talking-car KITT (Knight Industries Three Thousand) that her father is missing, she and KITT set out to find and recruit Mike.In an article dated November 29...Bruce Davison, Wayne Kasserman and Greg Ellis round out the cast of NBC's two-hour movie/backdoor pilot "Knight Rider.""Knight Rider," from Universal and Dutch Oven, is a sequel to the 1980s series and centers on Mike Tracer (Justin Bruening), Michael Knight's (David Hasselhoff) son who never knew his dad. Tracer is recruited by his childhood best friend, Sarah Graiman (Deanna Russo), and her eccentric physicist father, Charles (Davison), to join the Knight Foundation, a group committed to counteracting and preventing the damage done by private, covert military contractors. (Sarah and Charles' last name was originally Kamen, it has since been changed to Graiman.)To assist their missions, Charles creates the second-generation KITT, an artificially intelligent car.A shady millionaire approaches Charles to commission a KITT car, and when Charles refuses, he hires a military contractor to murder him and steal the car. Ellis will play Welther, one of the bad guys. The role is considered guest-starring, with a potential to continue if "Knight Rider" goes to series. Kasserman plays Dylan, Mike's loyal roommate, friend and race car mechanic who joins the Knight Rider team.So, no mention of Hasselhoff in the more recent article, but that doesn't mean much as they haven't started filming yet. In either case, I suspect that it would be a guest star type role rather than a steady part, even if it goes to series.Which, is probably the hang up with negotiations, considering how arrogant he is.

[TJinPgh]

Just a quick follow up on this.David Hasselhoff will, indeed, be reprising his role as Michael Knight for the upcoming Knight Rider TV movie. However, he will not have the starring role.Justin Bruening has the lead role.Ironically, the man who played Bruening's father on All My Children is named Michael E. Knight.full article is at http://www.eonline.com/news/ar...ories if anybody is curious enough to read it.

[tribalman]

i just read thru this. NO FLASHING LIGHTS! "Not one of the models featured a strip of blinking red lights, à la classic KITT. And not one of the models featured a Michael Knight, à la classic Hasselhoff. But while the red lights weren't present, Hasselhoff will be."

[TJinPgh]

yeah, I saw that.However, it IS possible that they WILL be seen in the movie. They may just be done with CGI. These days it may well be cheaper to digitize them than actually make them.They also didn't say anything about computers and monitors and such inside the cars, but one can only assume that they're there. So, it could simply be that whatever purpose that these particular cars are serving don't need them.

[ToolGuy]

BS! Could have used a new GTO. Yeah it is not "amer made like the article states was one of the criteria but it is a Pont, muscle, two door and worthy of this! And who cares of the Stangs 600 HP. Did anyone really know what the real KITT TA had for HP? Not really... It had a turbo according to the dash and the film speed was sped up at times to make it seem really fast. Could have used a V6 in it at that point so who cares that the new car is worthy because it is muscle and 600 HP. Since the car is not a Pont to say the least, why even call it Knight Rider or KITT, change the entire show then and call it something else! Boo hiss!

[NibCrom]

Well, at least they didn't use a Hyundai. Hahaha!Wait, are they using the KR for the movie? Cause I think that only has 550 hp as opposed to the Super Snake that has 600 hp. Unless they modified the KR I guess.

[TJinPgh]

Man, so much anger for a forum dedicated to a car that's a Pontiac in name only.People around here seem to forget that NEITHER the car and man we've come to know as Knight Rider were the first in EITHER of their positions.And, no, I don't mean KARR. The first vehicle created by Knight Industries was a truck that I doubt very seriously wore a Pontiac nameplate.As for the Mustang versus the GTO.Ummm, I'll apologize in advance since I know that this will be sacrilege to many here. But, any person who wouldn't take a Shelby Cobra over a GTO any day of the week is a fool.There, I've said it. And, I'm sticking to it.

[Toasted7]

I was pissed when I found out that Bumblebee was a Camaro and now I'm pissed that KITT is gonna be a Mustang... I feel so let down.

[Stang2Vibe]

Quote, originally posted by NUBlackshirts »As a fan of the original show, and long time Pontiac owner, they have already lost a viewer. What blasphemy is next? A "Smokey and the Bandit" remake with Bandit driving a Civic? Not unless it was a hybrid Civic, but then the name Smokey wouldn't be environmentally friendly enough for eco-weenies so they'd rename him something stupid like "Greenie".

[Stang2Vibe]

I don't like the fact that they're using a Mustang for this role either, it just seems so out of place. And they better make the friggin' red lights flash---and scroll from side to side like they're supposed to. Computer animated or not, they better flash otherwise the whole thing's just stupid. The Mustang was the wrong choice for a car and that's coming from a former Mustang owner!Quote, originally posted by TJinPgh »For what it's worth, as late as last week David Hasselhoff was still in negotiations to reprise his role as Michael Knight. So, at least on paper, this will not be a remake or a reimagined version, but rather a next chapter in the story.It wouldn't surprise me all that much to see Michael Knight take over as the head of the Knight Foundation and simply get a new driver and a new car. Michael Long (Michael Knight's real name) wasn't the original choice for the driver of KITT, so it would be somewhat in keeping with the idea of the show to have him pass it along to somebody new.Yeah, they have to give him a desk job. He probably still has his driver's license suspended for too many DUI's.

[ToolGuy]

Quote, originally posted by TJinPgh »Man, so much anger for a forum dedicated to a car that's a Pontiac in name only.People around here seem to forget that NEITHER the car and man we've come to know as Knight Rider were the first in EITHER of their positions.And, no, I don't mean KARR. The first vehicle created by Knight Industries was a truck that I doubt very seriously wore a Pontiac nameplate.As for the Mustang versus the GTO.Ummm, I'll apologize in advance since I know that this will be sacrilege to many here. But, any person who wouldn't take a Shelby Cobra over a GTO any day of the week is a fool.There, I've said it. And, I'm sticking to it.All the disgust in this thread comes from this show not sticking to the original heritage, thus the car... Yeah sure things change and so do shows, but we are more disappointed rather.And to the average person that is not into cars, they have no idea what a Shelby is. Mustang and GTO, most average people do thus why I suggested the GTO. GTO as well because it is a muscle car like the article implies was one of the cars criteria that was used. However you cannot compare the GTO to a Shelby Mustang since the Shelby is not all stock like a GTO. Throw a SC on the GTO and then we are talking apples to apples. On a side note, Shelby can keep that stupid SuperCharger whine the Shelby Stang has! It sounds like crap, I have heard it! Maybe that is what this show will have no flashing red lights but the SC whine means the car is coming for you! Yeah, that will work!

[TJinPgh]

Quote, originally posted by MiVibe-ToolGuy »All the disgust in this thread comes from this show not sticking to the original heritage, thus the car... Yeah sure things change and so do shows, but we are more disappointed rather.Again, that ship sailed a long time ago. I don't see the point in getting upset about it now. And, again, Pontiac no longer makes a Trans Am or a Firebird, and has no current plans to do so. So, no matter WHAT car they used, it wouldn't be the same as the original.Quote »And to the average person that is not into cars, they have no idea what a Shelby is. Mustang and GTO, most average people do thus why I suggested the GTO. GTO as well because it is a muscle car like the article implies was one of the cars criteria that was used. However you cannot compare the GTO to a Shelby Mustang since the Shelby is not all stock like a GTO. Throw a SC on the GTO and then we are talking apples to apples. I suspect more people today are familiar with the Mustang than the GTO, but it's not really relavent to the discussion.Quote »On a side note, Shelby can keep that stupid SuperCharger whine the Shelby Stang has! It sounds like crap, I have heard it! Maybe that is what this show will have no flashing red lights but the SC whine means the car is coming for you! Yeah, that will work! We're complaining about super charger whine when we're discussing a car that supposedly didn't even have a conventional engine? The only engine noise you ever got from the original KITT was a whine.As for the lights, as I said before, the article made no assumptions about what the car in the show will or won't do with respect to those lights. It simply said that the cars they had access to didn't have them. The article DOES say that there will be substantial computer generated effects with respect to the car, so it's impossible to know what we will or won't see until it actually airs.

[ToolGuy]

Ok excuse me here... I am entitled to my opinions and can discuss any part of this topic I feel. You appear to want to run this thread and want to be some authority on this topic. "Not relevant to the discussion"? The comment was based on the criteria from the link you posted on picking the car to be used and what you previously stated. "Bartis said producers looked to cast a car that was (a) American-made, definitely; (b) two-door, preferably; and (c) muscular, yes." Which again the GTO fits all the criteria just not American made... FYI, both the GTO and Mustang started officially in 1964, both are icons and known... And as I stated "Shelby..." The average person will not know what a SHELBY is, not the name Mustang... Please re-read the post and stay with me here...Could have used a new Z06 or SRT10 too since both are US made and fit the other criteria but I will not go there. Oh and the whine I am talking about on a SC Mustang is not the same whine from KITT which was supossedly a Turbo whine generated from the show and not the car itself. My whine comment was more of a joke likewise... Again, you are not seeing what I am saying so it is pointless to even discuss cars in general with you...

[TJinPgh]

Quote, originally posted by MiVibe-ToolGuy »Ok excuse me here... I am entitled to my opinions and can discuss any part of this topic I feel. You appear to want to run this thread and want to be some authority on this topic.Not an authority, just stating facts. There have been several shows based on Knight Rider over the years. Only two of the cars that had "starring roles" were Trans Ams. Two of them were Mustangs.It doesn't make much sense to me to complain about them using a Mustang now when they went that route some time ago.Quote »"Not relevant to the discussion"? The comment was based on the criteria from the link you posted on picking the car to be used and what you previously stated.Ummm, the "not relevant to the discussion" comment was regarding my own assertion that more people are familiar with the Mustang than the GTO. So, in short, I was saying that portion of my own argument wasn't relevant, not somebody else's.Quote »"Bartis said producers looked to cast a car that was (a) American-made, definitely; (b) two-door, preferably; and (c) muscular, yes."True. But, it's not a Trans Am. And, the argument presented here was that they shouldn't use a Mustang because it's not the same as the original. Neither is the GTO. Quote »Which again the GTO fits all the criteria just not American made... FYI, both the GTO and Mustang started officially in 1964, both are icons and known... And as I stated "Shelby..." The average person will not know what a SHELBY is, not the name Mustang... Please re-read the post and stay with me here...Very few people will look at that car and see a Shelby, they'll see a Mustang. But, I digress.BTW, last I heard, the platform that the last GTO was built in Australia (2004-2006) and the new GTO will be built on (same platform as the new Camaro, will be built in Canada. While I realize we call anything made in North America (including Mexico) American made these days, it's not the U.S..The Mustang is still built in Michigan. Quote »Could have used a new Z06 or SRT10 too since both are US made and fit the other criteria but I will not go there. Again, they COULD have used any car they wanted, including the GTO. They chose the Mustang and thought they had a decent reason to do so.People are free to agree or disagree all they want. I am simply saying that there have been far more Knight Rider vehicles that weren't Trans Ams than were. It seems to me that the time to complain about that was when they first started using something something else. But, that's just me.I, personally, would rather own a Shelby Mustang than a GTO, because it's likely to be worth far more over the long haul as a collectible vehicle. But, that's just me also.I wouldn't own either one as a daily driver. Neither is very economical.

[Mavrik]

Ok...some of you guys are really taking this all to seriouslyhere have a random present.

[drunkenmaxx]

Quote, originally posted by Mavrik »Ok...some of you guys are really taking this all to seriouslyhere have a random present. amen brother! everyone untwist your panties and have a beer! besides, we all know, the new show will probably suck anyway.