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I'm thinking of getting LED mod done to my gauges.I was wondering if I could still drive the Vibe without the cluster.And,please don't post up and say it's dangerous or stupid ,I just want to know if I can still use the Vibe.

Can't imagine why not, except for it being Quote »dangerous or stupid....lolerskates.... Pull it and try, see if it starts... what can it hurt, unless it is set up to burn the car to the ground if you DO....

you can if you must. Obviously you would want to minimize your clusterless drive time, for various safety reasons.

It will probably be for only a day or 2.I just want to know before I rip it out,or buy a temporary one off ebay.Has anyone tried it before?Oh and Sublime-Thanks and smart a##.

plus (if it matters to you) your odometer will be off by however many miles you drive clusterless

Which won't be very much.I don't drive her all that often.Maybe 25 km's while it's getting done.

Quote, originally posted by ANO_Vibe »plus (if it matters to you) your odometer will be off by however many miles you drive clusterlessI thought we'd determined odometer readings were stored in the PCM?

I don't know for sure... I just thought it was in the cluster b/c of all the cluster swapping threads...

Never mind, not sure where I got that from, can/'t find anything to support my theory on here.Probably is in the cluster.

Kev, I don't have a clue about the Vibe running without the instrument cluster, but............................a '92 Chevy C1500 P/U absolutely, positively will NOT run without the cluster. That helps you out a whole bunch, doesn't it. LOL

I know on the Lexus LS400 (at least the older ones) the car will function without the cluster, but it will set off a code for the airbag light. Once the cluster is back in the code has to be cleared to get the light off.

Quote, originally posted by ANO_Vibe »plus (if it matters to you) your odometer will be off by however many miles you drive clusterlessfor some reasion i thought you meant spedometer. also, can you post pics? i'd like to see how it's done taking it apart cause i'd like to put some custom graphics inside the panel but i'm afraid of breaking something without a guide to show the way.

Quote, originally posted by jimincalif »I know on the Lexus LS400 (at least the older ones) the car will function without the cluster, but it will set off a code for the airbag light. Once the cluster is back in the code has to be cleared to get the light off.Good point, that's one I was thinking about. The functionality of the air bag indicator itself is monitored and will set a code if a fault is detected, which having no indicator present at all surely would be. Whether that would have any other impact on the SRS stuff should the unthinkable occur when the cluster is disconnected, I couldn't tell ya. If it does throw a code, yup - will have to be cleared out by the proper scan tool.Raging, it's definitely in the cluster since Joatmon had to do a few tricks to get his '04 cluster up to the right mileage his '03 cluster was showing. Pretty sure that actual GM stuff saves the mileage in the PCM.

Quote, originally posted by ColonelPanic »Pretty sure that actual GM stuff saves the mileage in the PCM. You are correct. My service manuals for the G6 indicate the BCM is the keeper of the grail...err...mileage.

I could drive with Scanguage replacing all the instruments. Need to know speed, like to know revs and temps. That otta do it. If you know your speed and can keep track of where your blinkers are at, it's reasonable to me that it could be driven without endangering others. On a temporary as-needed basis, methinks.

hey kevso what did you decide on this? i've been playing around with the idea of getting the 'led upgrade' too, but have been wondering if the car is drivable with out the cluster...

I haven't tried it yet.I can't get a hold of the guy from LEDMODS.So,I was going to do it next week while I'm off work,but I don't think it will work out now.I'm kind of disappointed about not getting it done,but that means I'll spend the money on something else for the Vibe.

would have been sweet to see one of our actual genvibers have this done. keep us posted.

Well my speedometer is off by 45,000 and some miles and it doesn't bother me at all so I don't think 25km would affect you too much mate What kind of LED mod did you have in mind? Have any pictures of any that are done on a different car perhaps so I can get an idea what you're talking about?

I want the cluster to match my gauges.It's the dog's bullocks.

i'd definitely do the blue too, or the ultra violet.

OH man that looks awesome, I thought I liked the factory colors, but I just might be sold on changing them...

I was going to do them Ultraviolet.Guy still hasn't got back to me.I may just do this myself.